Comments on: The Low Get Lower http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: A Black Muse http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-138061 A Black Muse Mon, 21 May 2007 20:42:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-138061 <p><b>There ARE laws against gathering people for the purpose of doing violence against others. Eng still has this website going: http://www.geocities.com/yellowskullgod/YellowSkull.html where he is attempting to recruit other Asians. (Warning, clicking the link to "what white people deserve" will gross you out.) And IF, they find some kind of connection between Eng and Cho, that is, if they find that Cho's state of mind was influenced by that asshat, Eng, Kenneth will find that freedom of speech doesn't excuse him from liability in the VA shooting.<br /> I kinda wish the kid had the word "Dennagon" written on his arm. Eng would be in jail as an accomplice by now!</b></p> There ARE laws against gathering people for the purpose of doing violence against others. Eng still has this website going: http://www.geocities.com/yellowskullgod/YellowSkull.html where he is attempting to recruit other Asians. (Warning, clicking the link to “what white people deserve” will gross you out.) And IF, they find some kind of connection between Eng and Cho, that is, if they find that Cho’s state of mind was influenced by that asshat, Eng, Kenneth will find that freedom of speech doesn’t excuse him from liability in the VA shooting.
I kinda wish the kid had the word “Dennagon” written on his arm. Eng would be in jail as an accomplice by now!

]]> By: tipster http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-134362 tipster Fri, 04 May 2007 22:07:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-134362 <p><a href="http://www.gawker.com/news/mein-kampf/kenneth-eng-full-of-murderous-rage-savvy-marketing-strategies-257856.php">Gawker.com has the cover letter for his "project."</a></p> Gawker.com has the cover letter for his “project.”

]]> By: Runa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-134311 Runa Fri, 04 May 2007 19:36:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-134311 <p>Moornam,</p> <p>FYI:I am sure you know the parents /family already released a statement expressing their profound sorrow for Cho's actions</p> <p>By your logic then the parents of every mentally ill person are to "blame" for their offspring's actions -which I do not buy at all .</p> <p>And as I mentioned if its the parents to blame , why isn't Chos' sister spreading hate instead of - by all accounts -leading a productive and blameless life?</p> <p>Where I will agree with you is that they erred in not getting him professional help he so obviously needed either because they did not realize or worse ignored the signs.</p> <p>I do not see how their coming on Live TV helps in any case.</p> <p>Glad to know that you and I at least share like views on personal responsibility and accountability .Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.</p> Moornam,

FYI:I am sure you know the parents /family already released a statement expressing their profound sorrow for Cho’s actions

By your logic then the parents of every mentally ill person are to “blame” for their offspring’s actions -which I do not buy at all .

And as I mentioned if its the parents to blame , why isn’t Chos’ sister spreading hate instead of – by all accounts -leading a productive and blameless life?

Where I will agree with you is that they erred in not getting him professional help he so obviously needed either because they did not realize or worse ignored the signs.

I do not see how their coming on Live TV helps in any case.

Glad to know that you and I at least share like views on personal responsibility and accountability .Let’s agree to disagree and leave it at that.

]]> By: gogol http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-134116 gogol Fri, 04 May 2007 03:53:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-134116 <p>I strongly recommend that one resists the temptation to think these people are outliers of the general population. They are more common than you think, circumstances can easily change and disrupt a personality from within or without. I do not think it is far fetched to bring up the psychology of SS soldiers as a poor but readily accessible example.</p> <p>And no i am not talking from personal experience.</p> I strongly recommend that one resists the temptation to think these people are outliers of the general population. They are more common than you think, circumstances can easily change and disrupt a personality from within or without. I do not think it is far fetched to bring up the psychology of SS soldiers as a poor but readily accessible example.

And no i am not talking from personal experience.

]]> By: MoorNam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-134100 MoorNam Fri, 04 May 2007 03:03:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-134100 <p>Runa writes:</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><i>Cho was crazy and you would like to blame his parents for what he did</i>?</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>They are partially to blame. They brought up a monster into this world - they could have stopped it with better parenting. Their karma will catch up with them.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><i>hound them ... Whip up some anger and hatred against them too?</i></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Oh please. I already mentioned that there should be no legal ramifications for them and that the cops are right in giving them protection.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>the current practice of blaming everything on one's alleged lousy upbringing....another way to avoid personal responsibility and accountability</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Agree totally - but this is out of context. If Cho had blamed this on his upbringing, then I would say the same. But here, I am asking the parents to take a share of the blame. All I wanted them to do was to use media time and come on TV and say: "<i>We're sorry this happened. It is partly our fault. We messed up. When we saw that he was turning into a loner and anti-social, we should have immediately nipped it in the bud</i>."</p> <p>M. Nam</p> Runa writes:

Cho was crazy and you would like to blame his parents for what he did?

They are partially to blame. They brought up a monster into this world – they could have stopped it with better parenting. Their karma will catch up with them.

hound them … Whip up some anger and hatred against them too?

Oh please. I already mentioned that there should be no legal ramifications for them and that the cops are right in giving them protection.

the current practice of blaming everything on one’s alleged lousy upbringing….another way to avoid personal responsibility and accountability

Agree totally – but this is out of context. If Cho had blamed this on his upbringing, then I would say the same. But here, I am asking the parents to take a share of the blame. All I wanted them to do was to use media time and come on TV and say: “We’re sorry this happened. It is partly our fault. We messed up. When we saw that he was turning into a loner and anti-social, we should have immediately nipped it in the bud.”

M. Nam

]]> By: BrooklynBrown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-134045 BrooklynBrown Fri, 04 May 2007 00:26:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-134045 <p>holy cow! i just saw that eng video from #11. the guy is looney, seriously seriously looney. it seemed so over the top that i felt like he was playing a joke on the interviewer, but frankly i'm not about to give eng enough credit to pull that off. he's clearly not smart enough.</p> holy cow! i just saw that eng video from #11. the guy is looney, seriously seriously looney. it seemed so over the top that i felt like he was playing a joke on the interviewer, but frankly i’m not about to give eng enough credit to pull that off. he’s clearly not smart enough.

]]> By: Runa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-134035 Runa Thu, 03 May 2007 23:46:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-134035 <p>Sorry ,I meant Cho NOT Eng in my comments # 39</p> <p>Freudian slip ...</p> Sorry ,I meant Cho NOT Eng in my comments # 39

Freudian slip …

]]> By: Runa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-134034 Runa Thu, 03 May 2007 23:40:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-134034 <p>Moornam # 34</p> <p>I totally do <b>NOT </b>get your point.</p> <p>Eng was crazy and you would like to blame his parents for what he did? Have some compassion and empathy- they lost a son too.</p> <p>What do you want the media to do - hound them while they are still trying to make sense of senslessness? Whip up some anger and hatred against them too?</p> <p>Once you are 18 you and only you are responsible for your actions.Unless Eng's parents brought him up to hate everyone else ( unlikely, considering that his sister seems to have turned out ok) , what responsibility do they hold?</p> <p>I have no patience with the current practice of blaming everything on one's alleged lousy upbringing.Its just another way to avoid personal responsibility and accountability for one's own actions.</p> Moornam # 34

I totally do NOT get your point.

Eng was crazy and you would like to blame his parents for what he did? Have some compassion and empathy- they lost a son too.

What do you want the media to do – hound them while they are still trying to make sense of senslessness? Whip up some anger and hatred against them too?

Once you are 18 you and only you are responsible for your actions.Unless Eng’s parents brought him up to hate everyone else ( unlikely, considering that his sister seems to have turned out ok) , what responsibility do they hold?

I have no patience with the current practice of blaming everything on one’s alleged lousy upbringing.Its just another way to avoid personal responsibility and accountability for one’s own actions.

]]> By: glass houses http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-133919 glass houses Thu, 03 May 2007 18:24:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-133919 <p>"Her ego got in the way of her business acumen..."</p> <p>That's pretty much the definition of stupidity wouldn't you say Publishing lifer? :)</p> “Her ego got in the way of her business acumen…”

That’s pretty much the definition of stupidity wouldn’t you say Publishing lifer? :)

]]> By: A.R. Yngve http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/the_low_get_low/comment-page-1/#comment-133873 A.R. Yngve Thu, 03 May 2007 13:30:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4393#comment-133873 <p>"Sadly, people are interested in reading and watching stuff about crazypsychokiller people."</p> <p>I want to believe journalists are wrong about this, and that most people are sick and tired of media's attention on crazypsychokillers.</p> <p>(When the broadcasting corporation WHNC(We Have No Conscience) aired Cho's hate video, I refused to watch it, and felt only contempt for the TV execs who thought it was a good idea to broadcast what is, in essence, an infomercial for mass murder.)</p> “Sadly, people are interested in reading and watching stuff about crazypsychokiller people.”

I want to believe journalists are wrong about this, and that most people are sick and tired of media’s attention on crazypsychokillers.

(When the broadcasting corporation WHNC(We Have No Conscience) aired Cho’s hate video, I refused to watch it, and felt only contempt for the TV execs who thought it was a good idea to broadcast what is, in essence, an infomercial for mass murder.)

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