Comments on: Angry Little Asian Girl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Georges B. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-245227 Georges B. Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:57:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-245227 <p>your parents (the one's who either brought you here or gave birth to you here in the states) aren't a little prejudice? Aren't a little ethnocentric? I fail to see how the main contention is with curiosity among white America-----look at your own family tree and listen to some of the things that come out of the mouth of your parents with a hint of the native tounge-----please spare me.</p> your parents (the one’s who either brought you here or gave birth to you here in the states) aren’t a little prejudice? Aren’t a little ethnocentric? I fail to see how the main contention is with curiosity among white America—–look at your own family tree and listen to some of the things that come out of the mouth of your parents with a hint of the native tounge—–please spare me.

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By: Marc Brodeur http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-234416 Marc Brodeur Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:51:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-234416 <p>I always ask people where they are from. Just because nobody in Phoenix is from Phoenix. Everyone is from somewhere else. I think if a person takes it the wrong way it is because they are reading way too much into a question. If people ask me where I am from, I never feel offended, and I was born in a foreign country and didn't move here until I was 30. I think it is a conversation starter, and not offensive at all. I guess I could be offended if I wanted to read too much into it but why should I? I think it would make me look way too sensitive.</p> I always ask people where they are from. Just because nobody in Phoenix is from Phoenix. Everyone is from somewhere else. I think if a person takes it the wrong way it is because they are reading way too much into a question. If people ask me where I am from, I never feel offended, and I was born in a foreign country and didn’t move here until I was 30. I think it is a conversation starter, and not offensive at all. I guess I could be offended if I wanted to read too much into it but why should I? I think it would make me look way too sensitive.

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By: cio_cio_san http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-135495 cio_cio_san Thu, 10 May 2007 13:38:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-135495 <p>hey, i know what you mean. i get it all the time. "where are you from?" "canada." "no, i mean where were you born?" once when i answered with the city we were in the time (which IS where i was born), an elderly lady asked where my parents were from, and when i told her pakistan, said: well, aren't you lucky you weren't born there.. ahhhhh! right now, i'm studying in england and it's funny because when people hear my accent they ask me if I'm American. When I tell them I'm canadian, they get all apologetic, like that's an insult to me. one guy actually said "oh sorry, I know that's like the worst insult you can give a Canadian" . it was actually very refreshing. I get to be where I'm from, if that makes any sense at all.</p> hey, i know what you mean. i get it all the time. “where are you from?” “canada.” “no, i mean where were you born?” once when i answered with the city we were in the time (which IS where i was born), an elderly lady asked where my parents were from, and when i told her pakistan, said: well, aren’t you lucky you weren’t born there.. ahhhhh! right now, i’m studying in england and it’s funny because when people hear my accent they ask me if I’m American. When I tell them I’m canadian, they get all apologetic, like that’s an insult to me. one guy actually said “oh sorry, I know that’s like the worst insult you can give a Canadian” . it was actually very refreshing. I get to be where I’m from, if that makes any sense at all.

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By: Jasmine http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-134405 Jasmine Sat, 05 May 2007 01:04:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-134405 <p>Wow, Anna. Great post. Too bad you can't read <i>The Hindi-Bindi Club</i> without incurring the wrath of fellow mutineers. The opening scene (takes place in DC) and this one other in the middle sound, well, an awful lot like YOU... Reading your post, I thought you and Kiran could be kindred spirits... But hey, what do I know? Since I love the book, I obviously have no taste.</p> Wow, Anna. Great post. Too bad you can’t read The Hindi-Bindi Club without incurring the wrath of fellow mutineers. The opening scene (takes place in DC) and this one other in the middle sound, well, an awful lot like YOU… Reading your post, I thought you and Kiran could be kindred spirits… But hey, what do I know? Since I love the book, I obviously have no taste.

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By: PG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-134402 PG Sat, 05 May 2007 00:16:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-134402 <blockquote>The only other group of people who ask me this question OFTEN with the same underlying assumption are black men trying to hit on me thinking that they can sneak in some exotic "are you flexible?" or "can you teach me the Kama Sutra?" dumbshit pickup line.</blockquote> <p>Send them my way!!!</p> The only other group of people who ask me this question OFTEN with the same underlying assumption are black men trying to hit on me thinking that they can sneak in some exotic “are you flexible?” or “can you teach me the Kama Sutra?” dumbshit pickup line.

Send them my way!!!

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By: Amitabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-134060 Amitabh Fri, 04 May 2007 01:41:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-134060 <blockquote>more miss world/universes than pakistan! so there. :)</blockquote> <p>Pakistan/Afghanistan have some of the most beautiful women on Earth...their societies are just too conservative for most of them to enter Miss World, etc. You're right that women from your area can be very gorgeous too.</p> <p>Anyway, whenever I've been mistaken for Pakistani by other Indians or by Pakistanis (not a frequent occurance but it happens now and then) I've never minded...because in general I think they're good-looking people.</p> more miss world/universes than pakistan! so there. :)

Pakistan/Afghanistan have some of the most beautiful women on Earth…their societies are just too conservative for most of them to enter Miss World, etc. You’re right that women from your area can be very gorgeous too.

Anyway, whenever I’ve been mistaken for Pakistani by other Indians or by Pakistanis (not a frequent occurance but it happens now and then) I’ve never minded…because in general I think they’re good-looking people.

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By: bytewords http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-133991 bytewords Thu, 03 May 2007 21:44:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-133991 <blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>@bytewords: "it is very unlikely someone mistakes for pakistani, so when it happens, it is more amusing than annoying." </blockquote> My wife (South Indian) has other Indians assume she's Pakistani all the time and she is deeply offended by it. </blockquote> Depending on whether you think Pakistanis are better looking (on average) than Indians, it can be considered a compliment. I guess your wife doesn't feel that way. </blockquote> <p>@amitabh: no no, my statement had nothing to do with looks. for one, i personally think girls from my region (konkan/so karnataka) are the beshtest in looks. statistically speaking, it is true---more miss world/universes than pakistan! so there. :)</p> <p>the point is, i want to know if people are offended to be mistaken for pakistani. i am not, but ag's wife is. for most people who don't care, i don't think the issue is that we somehow think pakistanis are better looking. in fact, i am not really sure how pakistanis are supposed to look either.</p>
@bytewords: “it is very unlikely someone mistakes for pakistani, so when it happens, it is more amusing than annoying.”
My wife (South Indian) has other Indians assume she’s Pakistani all the time and she is deeply offended by it.
Depending on whether you think Pakistanis are better looking (on average) than Indians, it can be considered a compliment. I guess your wife doesn’t feel that way.

@amitabh: no no, my statement had nothing to do with looks. for one, i personally think girls from my region (konkan/so karnataka) are the beshtest in looks. statistically speaking, it is true—more miss world/universes than pakistan! so there. :)

the point is, i want to know if people are offended to be mistaken for pakistani. i am not, but ag’s wife is. for most people who don’t care, i don’t think the issue is that we somehow think pakistanis are better looking. in fact, i am not really sure how pakistanis are supposed to look either.

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By: Amitabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-133973 Amitabh Thu, 03 May 2007 20:58:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-133973 <blockquote>My wife (South Indian) has other Indians assume she's Pakistani all the time and she is deeply offended by it.</blockquote> <p>Depending on whether you think Pakistanis are better looking (on average) than Indians, it can be considered a compliment. I guess your wife doesn't feel that way.</p> <blockquote>I feel like there is a lot of pressure within the Second-gen south asian community to give up our traditional, regional cultures and embrace the pan-North Indian mish mash that the West considers to be "Indian culture". I personally feel like this would be a huge loss for all of us who come from families that took the time and effort to pass on their local cultures.</blockquote> <p>You're right. But for those ABDs who know little to nothing of their original regional culture (i.e from those families that did NOT take the time and effort to pass that on), and happen to stumble upon the generic pan-North Indian mish mash during their college years or whatever, I think it's better than nothing. But I could be wrong, especially if it leads them to feel badly about their own original regional culture or somehow consider it uncool or something.</p> My wife (South Indian) has other Indians assume she’s Pakistani all the time and she is deeply offended by it.

Depending on whether you think Pakistanis are better looking (on average) than Indians, it can be considered a compliment. I guess your wife doesn’t feel that way.

I feel like there is a lot of pressure within the Second-gen south asian community to give up our traditional, regional cultures and embrace the pan-North Indian mish mash that the West considers to be “Indian culture”. I personally feel like this would be a huge loss for all of us who come from families that took the time and effort to pass on their local cultures.

You’re right. But for those ABDs who know little to nothing of their original regional culture (i.e from those families that did NOT take the time and effort to pass that on), and happen to stumble upon the generic pan-North Indian mish mash during their college years or whatever, I think it’s better than nothing. But I could be wrong, especially if it leads them to feel badly about their own original regional culture or somehow consider it uncool or something.

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By: AG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-133934 AG Thu, 03 May 2007 19:31:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-133934 <p>Sorry. Don't know where that one line went. That last post should have started:</p> <p>@bytewords: "it is very unlikely someone mistakes for pakistani, so when it happens, it is more amusing than annoying."</p> <p>My wife (South Indian) has other Indians assume she's Pakistani all the time and she is deeply offended by it.</p> Sorry. Don’t know where that one line went. That last post should have started:

@bytewords: “it is very unlikely someone mistakes for pakistani, so when it happens, it is more amusing than annoying.”

My wife (South Indian) has other Indians assume she’s Pakistani all the time and she is deeply offended by it.

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By: AG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/01/angry_little_as/comment-page-3/#comment-133933 AG Thu, 03 May 2007 19:28:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4391#comment-133933 <p>@bytewords: "it is very unlikely someone mistakes for pakistani, so when it happens, it is more amusing than annoying."</p> <p>In preschool I moved to New Orleans and discovered a new question: "What are you?" To which the only acceptable answers were Catholic, Protestant, or (sometimes) Jewish. I got asked this every day and usually ran off pouting, unable to answer.</p> <p>A few years later, we moved to New Jersey, and discovered another new question: "Where are you from?" Now you would assume (I did) the answer to this when asked of the new kid was "New Orleans." But instead I got, "Are you Italian, Polish, or Jewish?"</p> <p>Ethnically I'm an almost-stereotypical WASP mush, who grew up in a non-religious (not just non-practicing) family.</p> <p>My point is that, while many times WAYF does mean, "Well I can see your not American, so where are you from?" at other times - even from "white" people, it just means "Everyone's from somewhere - where are you from?" You're perfectly right to be upset at the first, but you should be open to - or at least tolerant of - the second.</p> @bytewords: “it is very unlikely someone mistakes for pakistani, so when it happens, it is more amusing than annoying.”

In preschool I moved to New Orleans and discovered a new question: “What are you?” To which the only acceptable answers were Catholic, Protestant, or (sometimes) Jewish. I got asked this every day and usually ran off pouting, unable to answer.

A few years later, we moved to New Jersey, and discovered another new question: “Where are you from?” Now you would assume (I did) the answer to this when asked of the new kid was “New Orleans.” But instead I got, “Are you Italian, Polish, or Jewish?”

Ethnically I’m an almost-stereotypical WASP mush, who grew up in a non-religious (not just non-practicing) family.

My point is that, while many times WAYF does mean, “Well I can see your not American, so where are you from?” at other times – even from “white” people, it just means “Everyone’s from somewhere – where are you from?” You’re perfectly right to be upset at the first, but you should be open to – or at least tolerant of – the second.

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