Comments on: No Balle Balle for Bally http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: PG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-132413 PG Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:27:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-132413 <p>Bally's sucks. And there's even a url by that name!</p> <p>Bally's has alot of lawsuits against it for cheating patrons ( i also got dooped ).</p> <p>The Bally's I was at though had a very Arab, very Muslim, very HOT fitness trainer. That did not compensate however for the BS I went through with that company.</p> <p>Now they plan on opening centers in India so they can cheat the Indian people as well. That's one of the drawbacks of a blossoming economy -- credit cards and scams.</p> Bally’s sucks. And there’s even a url by that name!

Bally’s has alot of lawsuits against it for cheating patrons ( i also got dooped ).

The Bally’s I was at though had a very Arab, very Muslim, very HOT fitness trainer. That did not compensate however for the BS I went through with that company.

Now they plan on opening centers in India so they can cheat the Indian people as well. That’s one of the drawbacks of a blossoming economy — credit cards and scams.

]]> By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131869 Ennis Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:53:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131869 <blockquote>the legal costs incurred by the carrier ( or the insured) must have been far more than the $24K they paid out, if the case went on for 3 years. Their total incurred costs must be at least 3x times the award.</blockquote> <p>Actually, I don't think the case was finally filed in court until recently, but I don't know when the EEOC first took it up. I know they tried to settle it via negotiation first.</p> the legal costs incurred by the carrier ( or the insured) must have been far more than the $24K they paid out, if the case went on for 3 years. Their total incurred costs must be at least 3x times the award.

Actually, I don’t think the case was finally filed in court until recently, but I don’t know when the EEOC first took it up. I know they tried to settle it via negotiation first.

]]> By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131864 gm Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:22:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131864 <p>It is disappointing to hear about these kinds of situations still taking place. Bally's should be happy to get a diverse group of employees. I don't think I will purchase any of Bally's products or services for some time.</p> It is disappointing to hear about these kinds of situations still taking place. Bally’s should be happy to get a diverse group of employees. I don’t think I will purchase any of Bally’s products or services for some time.

]]> By: muralimannered http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131853 muralimannered Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:48:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131853 <p>basically it means that the insurance company didn't waive their right to defend this gym--either that or carrier responded out of fear that ballys would sue them (generally the carrier does have the duty to pony up some defense costs.) Cases like these only go on, however, if the insurance carrier's claims adjusters determine that the case has merits and has a shot of succeeding. In many cases on the bodily injury side of the spectrum, a carrier will choose to settle fairly quickly if it finds the case to be anything but ironclad and the demands to be for chump change ($24K).</p> <p>the legal costs incurred by the carrier ( or the insured) must have been far more than the $24K they paid out, if the case went on for 3 years. Their total incurred costs must be at least 3x times the award.</p> <p>Basically somebody in claims is going "somebody gonna get a hurt real bad."</p> basically it means that the insurance company didn’t waive their right to defend this gym–either that or carrier responded out of fear that ballys would sue them (generally the carrier does have the duty to pony up some defense costs.) Cases like these only go on, however, if the insurance carrier’s claims adjusters determine that the case has merits and has a shot of succeeding. In many cases on the bodily injury side of the spectrum, a carrier will choose to settle fairly quickly if it finds the case to be anything but ironclad and the demands to be for chump change ($24K).

the legal costs incurred by the carrier ( or the insured) must have been far more than the $24K they paid out, if the case went on for 3 years. Their total incurred costs must be at least 3x times the award.

Basically somebody in claims is going “somebody gonna get a hurt real bad.”

]]> By: anandos, legal pigeon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131832 anandos, legal pigeon Fri, 27 Apr 2007 05:01:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131832 <p>Does anyone know (pardon my ignorance) whether the EEOC operates in criminal or civil cases? Would our friend in Fresno still have grounds to pursue a civil case and rub Bally's nose in their own silliness a bit? I'm generally anti-litigous, but it seems that $24K is barely enough to tickle the nostrils of a corporation. I work out at a Bally's in MA and have noticed a generally callous attitude towards employee training, though the sales force (trainers) seem to be quite conscientious about keeping the 'rogue trainers' out.</p> Does anyone know (pardon my ignorance) whether the EEOC operates in criminal or civil cases? Would our friend in Fresno still have grounds to pursue a civil case and rub Bally’s nose in their own silliness a bit? I’m generally anti-litigous, but it seems that $24K is barely enough to tickle the nostrils of a corporation. I work out at a Bally’s in MA and have noticed a generally callous attitude towards employee training, though the sales force (trainers) seem to be quite conscientious about keeping the ‘rogue trainers’ out.

]]> By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131816 Ennis Fri, 27 Apr 2007 03:31:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131816 <blockquote>discrimination on the basis of national origin or religion is generally known by HR departments to be easily avoidable caltrops--the fact that they defended this so vigorously has to be because their insurance carrier didn't waive subrogation and thought the gym's case had merits.</blockquote> <p>Muralimannered - care to translate to English for those of us who don't speak legalese ;)</p> discrimination on the basis of national origin or religion is generally known by HR departments to be easily avoidable caltrops–the fact that they defended this so vigorously has to be because their insurance carrier didn’t waive subrogation and thought the gym’s case had merits.

Muralimannered – care to translate to English for those of us who don’t speak legalese ;)

]]> By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131807 Rahul Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:40:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131807 <p>Dang, dude, I am totally converting to Sikhism/Islam/Korean/hot cups of McDonald's coffee - whatever pushes enough buttons to get me a few thousand/hundred thousand dollars! Now, if only software companies discriminated too...</p> Dang, dude, I am totally converting to Sikhism/Islam/Korean/hot cups of McDonald’s coffee – whatever pushes enough buttons to get me a few thousand/hundred thousand dollars! Now, if only software companies discriminated too…

]]> By: muralimannered http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131800 muralimannered Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:45:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131800 <p>discrimination on the basis of national origin or religion is generally known by HR departments to be easily avoidable caltrops--the fact that they defended this so vigorously has to be because their insurance carrier didn't waive subrogation and thought the gym's case had merits.</p> <p>poor claims-adjusting on the carrier's part.</p> <p>i have noticed, after working out at all the corporate-chain style gyms in my area, that they have a fairly lax attitude towards loss control. You can nearly always find an independent trainer, without any evidence of liability coverage, working out clients and giving them potentially injurious routines. The management seems to not care at all.</p> discrimination on the basis of national origin or religion is generally known by HR departments to be easily avoidable caltrops–the fact that they defended this so vigorously has to be because their insurance carrier didn’t waive subrogation and thought the gym’s case had merits.

poor claims-adjusting on the carrier’s part.

i have noticed, after working out at all the corporate-chain style gyms in my area, that they have a fairly lax attitude towards loss control. You can nearly always find an independent trainer, without any evidence of liability coverage, working out clients and giving them potentially injurious routines. The management seems to not care at all.

]]> By: chick pea http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131799 chick pea Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:44:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131799 <p>i'm not surprised either...</p> <p>a program director once told another person... 'oh.. she would interview so well without covering her hair'.(referring to her hijab)..</p> <p>person: 'that has to do with her religion and culture'...</p> <p>director: 'she would do much better without it'..</p> <p>director who is a clueless idiot, also told an asian in one of the groups..'oh i'm glad you're here.. since next year all the incoming trainees will be asian and you can help tell them apart'..</p> <p>i almost wanted to puke.</p> <p>there are idiots in all areas of the world..whether it be bally's or in a hospital to a 7-11 and wall street who are still certified idiots...doesn't matter what your degree or education level.. some people are just <b>born asinine</b>.</p> i’m not surprised either…

a program director once told another person… ‘oh.. she would interview so well without covering her hair’.(referring to her hijab)..

person: ‘that has to do with her religion and culture’…

director: ‘she would do much better without it’..

director who is a clueless idiot, also told an asian in one of the groups..’oh i’m glad you’re here.. since next year all the incoming trainees will be asian and you can help tell them apart’..

i almost wanted to puke.

there are idiots in all areas of the world..whether it be bally’s or in a hospital to a 7-11 and wall street who are still certified idiots…doesn’t matter what your degree or education level.. some people are just born asinine.

]]> By: Bengali Chick http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/26/no_bhale_bhale/comment-page-1/#comment-131798 Bengali Chick Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:38:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4378#comment-131798 <p>I am not surprised. A friend of mine a few years ago interviewed at mid-sized firm and they asked him straight out about his religion. And then they went on to make jokes about it during the interview. My friend felt awkward during the entire 1/2 day interview. He didn't find the jokes funny. He didn't get a job offer.</p> I am not surprised. A friend of mine a few years ago interviewed at mid-sized firm and they asked him straight out about his religion. And then they went on to make jokes about it during the interview. My friend felt awkward during the entire 1/2 day interview. He didn’t find the jokes funny. He didn’t get a job offer.

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