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So me and my dad went to this place last week and ended up buying a sofa set for $1500 , we gave a $300 deposit and were told to give the rest when the delivery arrived, we were called a few days later and told that it would come on the 24th from 2 – 6 pm , well it didn’t come. Today they called and told my dad it didn’t come because my dad didn’t pay the full amount. We then went to the store and the guy was saying that we told you had to pay full and my dad said you told us to pay when it arrived.

Another guy then quickly showed a list of receipts real quickly and was showing how ppl left deposits and then paid the rest . I thought i had seen COD ( Collect on delivery ) on the receipts , so i asked to see those , and showed him COD , COD , COD on many receipts , and i told him COD means collect on delivery , which means those past customers paid when the delivery had arrived. I then tossed those receipts and he got mad and told me to leave the store.

Just a bunch of liars, they said the delivery ppl are a private company and don’t do collections for insurance purposes , 5 mins later they agreed to delivery the sofas on Monday and we can give them money then.

Just thought i would let you guys know to avoid future hassles from you guys.

I wish i read this article before purchasing. My storey proves that they are just a bunch of liars, he didn’t no what the N word means , doesn’t no want Collect on delivery means.

I rest my case. How would that be “significant”?? US was a British colony too, they never felt the need to win “their master’s game”. Trying to “prove” to the British is still in Indian pysche, which is known as slave mentality in other words.

You must really think that the producers of that video, and the Shiv Sena goons who paint faces black, are such stupid, ignorant buffoons that they are aping westerners without even realizing the offensive racist nature of what they are aping. I dont buy that at all. No one is that stupid.

Amazing! You’re claiming that the producers of that video MUST realize they are producing offensive racist content, and that everyone in world is automatically equally sensitive to a certain standard regarding racism!! From your comments it appears to me that you haven’t grown up in India, and don’t really understand day-to-day behavior of common Indian persons in India. As such you are examining desi artifacts from a ‘foreign’ POV, and applying an outsider’s standards of racism/colonialism/oppression etc. to a context not native to you.

That urdu “idiom” is also racist. It originated with the central asian muslim conquerors and rulers of India who, like the brits after them, saw indians as black/dark and contemptible. But the practice of painting faces black is of british not mughal origin.

It is not an Urdu idiom, and it IS an idiom, no need to place it in quotes. I have never read anything about the British painting desi faces anything, so if you can back up your claim with some respectable research, I’m really interested in learning more about it. Otherwise allow me to say that this ‘everything is racism’ theory of yours is hogwash.

Even supposing per your argument the origin of the practice is racist, I doubt you can call it racist behavior on part of someone who practices it without realizing its racist origins. Maybe you do, I won’t.

Why on earth would a brown-skinned desi use the words “nigger-brown” as an insult? Why is everyone assuming that the desi store owners are the guilty party here? They could be guilty of letting their greed overrule their pride perhaps, but the racism is coming from the people who sent these sofas to that store with those offensive words on them. And that racism was directed towards desis. What it emphasizes is that to yellows and whites, desi browns are also “niggers”

The store-owner is making money off it; he is responsible. And so I don’t get it – you are contradicting yourself. In one instance you argue that Shiv Sena’s actions MUST be racist because that action has racist roots (and you won’t give them benefit of the doubt about perhaps being ignorant), while the store-owners actions are not racist even when the term clearly has racist roots (and you readily give them benefit of the doubt about perhaps being ignorant). Why wouldn’t you apply the same standard to both situations?

At any rate, I think I’ve nothing more to add to this racist-or-not back & forth. I would be interested in being pointed to some literature to reduce my ignorance regarding racist origins of face-painting though!

You must really think that the producers of that video, and the Shiv Sena goons who paint faces black, are such stupid, ignorant buffoons that they are aping westerners without even realizing the offensive racist nature of what they are aping. I dont buy that at all. No one is that stupid.

the thing with Shiv sena doing black? I don’t know if you’ve grown up in India and familiar with hindi idiom ‘Muh kala karna’ (to shame someone, to be involved in a shameful act etc.) This has nothing to do with racial whatever

That urdu “idiom” is also racist. It originated with the central asian muslim conquerors and rulers of India who, like the brits after them, saw indians as black/dark and contemptible. But the practice of painting faces black is of british not mughal origin. It is certainly not an indigenous hindu practice, for the hindu Puranas paint their epic heroes and heroines as black/dark.

While it is absolutely ridiculous to claim that “I dont know what that word means”, I think that the merchant in Canada may not have meant to offend.

I saw this on the news a few days ago and shook my head. I wanted to smack the owner of the furniture store before I even got to the Chinese supplier.

Why on earth would a brown-skinned desi use the words “nigger-brown” as an insult? Why is everyone assuming that the desi store owners are the guilty party here? They could be guilty of letting their greed overrule their pride perhaps, but the racism is coming from the people who sent these sofas to that store with those offensive words on them. And that racism was directed towards desis. What it emphasizes is that to yellows and whites, desi browns are also “niggers”

The TV bit was disgusting. Shame on them. People in India watch cricket and play cricket as opposed to say “kabaddi” or “Kushti” because Cricket is associated with the British. The terms of Cricket are in English and they have to be “explained” (with a racial caricature sometimes), WTF?

Please see Bytewords and my comments on it.

And btw, cricket is NOT popular because its associated with the british. Field hockey used to rule the day 40 yrs ago, much like cricket does in the side-streets and playgrounds of India today. India’s won 8 Olympic golds in Field hockey, six in a row from 1928-56. I’m not clear on the reasons for cricket’s ascension and hockey’s decline, but if they had to do with british association, cricket would have been popular since ever. Kabaddi or kushti indeed have always been considered too vernacular to be cool, probably due to colonial influence.

There is no doubt that cricket era in India came full-on when India won the world cup in ’83. The significance of winning the game of India’s former masters in their face, on a ground that’s described as the mecca of cricket, was not lost on a country still trying to define its identity. However, it would be inaccurate to ascribe cricket’s popularity in India due to desi attempts to ape the gora sahib. The win of 83 made more cricket converts because of its symbolism and the game’s innate excitement (yes, I know – there’s the one-day, and then there’s the five day), not because by playing it desi’s felt more angrez.

However this is a general question for anyone that might know. When I was in India recently someone casually used the N word to inquire about the general population of the area I live in NY. There wasn’t even a hint or racism and this person is educated however it was said so matter of fact I couldn’t help but think that he really thought it was a normal word and had no clue about the oppression behind it. I didn’t even know how to respond because I was the only one that was offended.

I’ve in the past heard this word randomly used in a very matter of fact way in the fat east and while I’m flabbergasted I really didn’t know how to address it with someone that most probably would never encounter someone African American or turn it into a huge sidebar discussion especially with older relatives (that’s who asked me about that in India) Any thoughts?