Comments on: Breaux says "No" http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Salil Maniktahla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129858 Salil Maniktahla Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:49:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129858 <p>Dave (11):</p> <blockquote>A Desi President is looking plausible as early as '12. I think Jindal is better positioned to become president than Obama for all the obvious reasons (he's a brown guy that won't have to court far left segments of minority communities during the primaries). I'm surprised Jindal remains such an outlier though in terms of Desi Americans mounting credible bids for offices that are stepping stones to the presidency.</blockquote> <p>I would disagree. I think he has far less of a chance than Obama. He has yet to win the gubernatorial race, after all, and his fundraising machine is pretty limp compared to other Republican frontrunners in the '08 election.</p> <p>That, and I don't think he plays as well with minorities as you say.</p> <p>Finally, I plain just don't like the guy. He's disingenuous, his politics are just this side of absurd, and he'll say practically anything to get elected. I know that doesn't carry much weight in the big picture, but if he ever declares his candidacy, <i>wait until you see the email campaign I'll wage on his ass</i>.</p> <p><b>Shock and awe</b>, that's all I have to say. :-)</p> Dave (11):

A Desi President is looking plausible as early as ’12. I think Jindal is better positioned to become president than Obama for all the obvious reasons (he’s a brown guy that won’t have to court far left segments of minority communities during the primaries). I’m surprised Jindal remains such an outlier though in terms of Desi Americans mounting credible bids for offices that are stepping stones to the presidency.

I would disagree. I think he has far less of a chance than Obama. He has yet to win the gubernatorial race, after all, and his fundraising machine is pretty limp compared to other Republican frontrunners in the ’08 election.

That, and I don’t think he plays as well with minorities as you say.

Finally, I plain just don’t like the guy. He’s disingenuous, his politics are just this side of absurd, and he’ll say practically anything to get elected. I know that doesn’t carry much weight in the big picture, but if he ever declares his candidacy, wait until you see the email campaign I’ll wage on his ass.

Shock and awe, that’s all I have to say. :-)

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By: PG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129849 PG Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:30:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129849 <p>At the end of the day, even without a strong opponent, Jindal is no lock. He led Blanco by upper single digits prior to the last election, and ended up losing by a couple points. Post-mortem analysis at the time showed that quite a few Republican voters (primarily in north Louisiana) said they would vote for Jindal, but went in the other direction in the voting booth. Louisiana has been trending conservative, and Katrina seems to have accelerated that by decreasing the voting population in the most Dem-leaning part of Louisiana, the City of New Orleans - all that bodes well for Jindal.</p> <p>I grew up in La. as well, and don't believe it's any more (or less) racist than much of the South, or many places in the US in general. Having said that, I think a nontrivial percentage of voters are unwilling to vote for a non-white candidate when it's time to pull the lever (I think that will affect Obama as well, if he gets that far).</p> <p>But Jindal's chances just got a lot better with Breaux's withdrawal. More power to him, not just for the brown angle, but at least he knows something about economic development - the one thing Louisiana needs more than anything else.</p> At the end of the day, even without a strong opponent, Jindal is no lock. He led Blanco by upper single digits prior to the last election, and ended up losing by a couple points. Post-mortem analysis at the time showed that quite a few Republican voters (primarily in north Louisiana) said they would vote for Jindal, but went in the other direction in the voting booth. Louisiana has been trending conservative, and Katrina seems to have accelerated that by decreasing the voting population in the most Dem-leaning part of Louisiana, the City of New Orleans – all that bodes well for Jindal.

I grew up in La. as well, and don’t believe it’s any more (or less) racist than much of the South, or many places in the US in general. Having said that, I think a nontrivial percentage of voters are unwilling to vote for a non-white candidate when it’s time to pull the lever (I think that will affect Obama as well, if he gets that far).

But Jindal’s chances just got a lot better with Breaux’s withdrawal. More power to him, not just for the brown angle, but at least he knows something about economic development – the one thing Louisiana needs more than anything else.

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By: TheDirty http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129827 TheDirty Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:57:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129827 <p>Jindal came within 50K votes of winning last time. I think at this point most middle of the road people will probably be happy to throw their support behind Jindal, which is all he would need. They fliched last time, because of his rediculous stance on abortion (He was asked if his daughter were raped and became pregnant, would he allow her to have an abortion?, His response "I would ask her to have tha child.") Talk about conservative. But I think most intelligent moderates will realize the Governor of Louisiana can't do anything about a woman's right to choose.</p> <p>Furthermore, Jindal's track record in Congress has been pretty productive and frankly pragmatic, despite his rhetoric.</p> <p>I don't know if Jindal is presidential material, but I do know that Louisiana needs help and I think the people are ready to try something new. The racists and the moderates, at least.</p> <p>Oh and there were these guys named Mike Foster, Buddy Roemer, and Huey Long..all of who do not have the last names of Morial, Edwards, and Landrieu (Morials are done).</p> Jindal came within 50K votes of winning last time. I think at this point most middle of the road people will probably be happy to throw their support behind Jindal, which is all he would need. They fliched last time, because of his rediculous stance on abortion (He was asked if his daughter were raped and became pregnant, would he allow her to have an abortion?, His response “I would ask her to have tha child.”) Talk about conservative. But I think most intelligent moderates will realize the Governor of Louisiana can’t do anything about a woman’s right to choose.

Furthermore, Jindal’s track record in Congress has been pretty productive and frankly pragmatic, despite his rhetoric.

I don’t know if Jindal is presidential material, but I do know that Louisiana needs help and I think the people are ready to try something new. The racists and the moderates, at least.

Oh and there were these guys named Mike Foster, Buddy Roemer, and Huey Long..all of who do not have the last names of Morial, Edwards, and Landrieu (Morials are done).

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By: Dave http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129668 Dave Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:38:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129668 <p>Essence, an African American women's magazine that usually supports liberal democrats, has honored Condoleeza Rice in the past. Many african american politicians in Maryland that are usually liberal democrats supported (or publicly flirted with supporting) Michael Steele for Governor, also for reasons that primarily seemed to be about race and representation.</p> Essence, an African American women’s magazine that usually supports liberal democrats, has honored Condoleeza Rice in the past. Many african american politicians in Maryland that are usually liberal democrats supported (or publicly flirted with supporting) Michael Steele for Governor, also for reasons that primarily seemed to be about race and representation.

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By: Sanjaya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129587 Sanjaya Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:32:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129587 <p>So now the crazy, moonbat liberals in the bunker want to latch on to a Republican solely b/c he happens to be desi? Have some integrity and remain true to your ideology--the fact that Jindal is desi is irrelevant. For anyone to say otherwise hints at some lingering issues that remain unresolved from childhood...</p> So now the crazy, moonbat liberals in the bunker want to latch on to a Republican solely b/c he happens to be desi? Have some integrity and remain true to your ideology–the fact that Jindal is desi is irrelevant. For anyone to say otherwise hints at some lingering issues that remain unresolved from childhood…

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By: Dave http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129562 Dave Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:34:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129562 <p>A Desi President is looking plausible as early as '12. I think Jindal is better positioned to become president than Obama for all the obvious reasons (he's a brown guy that won't have to court far left segments of minority communities during the primaries). I'm surprised Jindal remains such an outlier though in terms of Desi Americans mounting credible bids for offices that are stepping stones to the presidency.</p> A Desi President is looking plausible as early as ’12. I think Jindal is better positioned to become president than Obama for all the obvious reasons (he’s a brown guy that won’t have to court far left segments of minority communities during the primaries). I’m surprised Jindal remains such an outlier though in terms of Desi Americans mounting credible bids for offices that are stepping stones to the presidency.

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By: the opoponax http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129322 the opoponax Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:57:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129322 <p>sorry, that should have been: "as many of those who will see his last name (among MANY other superficial things) <i>as a reason not to vote for him</i> helps"</p> <p>but you get the idea.</p> sorry, that should have been: “as many of those who will see his last name (among MANY other superficial things) as a reason not to vote for him helps”

but you get the idea.

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By: the opoponax http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129318 the opoponax Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:52:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129318 <p>how is that, exactly, abhi?</p> <p>the idea that Jindal would not only win but really and truly have the support of the people of Louisiana (not to mention the smoky back rooms of the FAMOUSLY corrupt Louisiana political machine) is almost as laughable as the idea of free and open elections in North Korea next year.</p> <p>the fact that Jindal is as insanely right wing as many of those who will see his last name (among MANY other superficial things) helps, but at the end of the day, he's a prop of the Republicans. which is a great way to get a post in the House, but not such a great way to get into anything that will give you any real power.</p> <p>in Illinois or New York or Kansas or some state where the political apparatus actually functions according to how it looks on paper, he would have a chance. but in Louisiana, if your name isn't Landrieu, Edwards, or Morial, and/or you haven't spent at least 30 years currying the right kind of political favor, you are NOT going to be Governor. even Blanco was an absolute shock. and look how that's turned out.</p> how is that, exactly, abhi?

the idea that Jindal would not only win but really and truly have the support of the people of Louisiana (not to mention the smoky back rooms of the FAMOUSLY corrupt Louisiana political machine) is almost as laughable as the idea of free and open elections in North Korea next year.

the fact that Jindal is as insanely right wing as many of those who will see his last name (among MANY other superficial things) helps, but at the end of the day, he’s a prop of the Republicans. which is a great way to get a post in the House, but not such a great way to get into anything that will give you any real power.

in Illinois or New York or Kansas or some state where the political apparatus actually functions according to how it looks on paper, he would have a chance. but in Louisiana, if your name isn’t Landrieu, Edwards, or Morial, and/or you haven’t spent at least 30 years currying the right kind of political favor, you are NOT going to be Governor. even Blanco was an absolute shock. and look how that’s turned out.

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By: aliya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129236 aliya Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:35:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129236 <p>man, i wish NY had that law when hillary first ran....</p> man, i wish NY had that law when hillary first ran….

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By: FakeBrownPeopleSuck http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/04/16/breaux_says_no/comment-page-1/#comment-129210 FakeBrownPeopleSuck Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:02:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4349#comment-129210 <p>Of course, that should be "peer reviewed". While I do appreciate the irony, I can assure it was poor typing rather than poor spelling.</p> Of course, that should be “peer reviewed”. While I do appreciate the irony, I can assure it was poor typing rather than poor spelling.

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