Comments on: This will never sell in Thirunelveli http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: You Jhootey! http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-2/#comment-125062 You Jhootey! Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:32:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-125062 <p>@Runa</p> <p>I aver to such universal discrimination, always thought the other were dubious :)</p> <p>(Now you know which way "Adiyen" flocks)</p> @Runa

I aver to such universal discrimination, always thought the other were dubious :)

(Now you know which way “Adiyen” flocks)

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By: Kurma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-2/#comment-125059 Kurma Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:46:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-125059 <p>Although I've got no problems with people standing on books, I myself treat books with the utmost care and respect. Originally, it was definitely cultural. Now the respect is for whatever's written in it. This is the default situation, i.e., even if I haven't read the book to know what's in it. If I do find it to be a book of no value at all, then it's just another cuboidal block. One Cornell prof commented that his new tome had been judged by another prof to be useful as a doorstop. Another demonstrated a principle in dynamics by grabbing someone's dissertation and tossing it in the air!</p> Although I’ve got no problems with people standing on books, I myself treat books with the utmost care and respect. Originally, it was definitely cultural. Now the respect is for whatever’s written in it. This is the default situation, i.e., even if I haven’t read the book to know what’s in it. If I do find it to be a book of no value at all, then it’s just another cuboidal block. One Cornell prof commented that his new tome had been judged by another prof to be useful as a doorstop. Another demonstrated a principle in dynamics by grabbing someone’s dissertation and tossing it in the air!

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By: Amitabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-1/#comment-125047 Amitabh Thu, 29 Mar 2007 04:51:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-125047 <p>I just realised we've been saying 'jhoota' when the word is actually 'jootha'.</p> I just realised we’ve been saying ‘jhoota’ when the word is actually ‘jootha’.

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By: Runa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-1/#comment-124936 Runa Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:35:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-124936 <p>Nope! First of all did'nt grow up in an Iyer household.Therefore - no prizes for guessing which level of TamBram egotism ( I,Iyer,Iyengar!) I belonged to.</p> <p>It had nothing to do with Roti and starch- EVERYTHING was jhootha in my grandmom's place - once you touched foodstuff with your right hand you could not touch any other food with your right hand coz it was jhootha</p> <p>Could be that grandma was exceptionally "acharam" .....</p> Nope! First of all did’nt grow up in an Iyer household.Therefore – no prizes for guessing which level of TamBram egotism ( I,Iyer,Iyengar!) I belonged to.

It had nothing to do with Roti and starch- EVERYTHING was jhootha in my grandmom’s place – once you touched foodstuff with your right hand you could not touch any other food with your right hand coz it was jhootha

Could be that grandma was exceptionally “acharam” …..

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By: You Jhootey! http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-1/#comment-124867 You Jhootey! Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:38:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-124867 <p>Runa, you are confusing the regimen of "pathu" obsessively followed by Iyers (not all TamBrams) which basically forbids handling starchy foods (Rice/Roti) and other kinds (picke, curry) together, probably because starches rot faster and mixing with other food stuffs may affect their longevity. Note, there is no "Jhootha" (which is essentially salivary contact).</p> <p>Your punjabi in-laws probably follow the ubiquitous Indian Jhoota of salivary exception, the dry Jhootha I know applies to say large piece of corn chip (or murukku) that you bite piece-meal, and your hand has to be washed back to sanctity (even if you did not drool over it).</p> Runa, you are confusing the regimen of “pathu” obsessively followed by Iyers (not all TamBrams) which basically forbids handling starchy foods (Rice/Roti) and other kinds (picke, curry) together, probably because starches rot faster and mixing with other food stuffs may affect their longevity. Note, there is no “Jhootha” (which is essentially salivary contact).

Your punjabi in-laws probably follow the ubiquitous Indian Jhoota of salivary exception, the dry Jhootha I know applies to say large piece of corn chip (or murukku) that you bite piece-meal, and your hand has to be washed back to sanctity (even if you did not drool over it).

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By: Runa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-1/#comment-124813 Runa Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:54:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-124813 <p>I am so thankful for this board because nice to know that I am not the only one who goes crazy when I see anyone standing on or kicking books :-)</p> <p>Also : as regards 'jhootha', the concept varies widely from the South to the North of India. As a TamBram married to a Punju, I had to 'adjust' my whole concept 'jhootha' after marriage . Southies have no concept of 'dry jhootha' : in other words, growing up , even if I had only touched a "roti" with my right hand and did not touch anything else , my hand was jhootha and I could not use the same hand to serve myself anything else -with a spoon or without. After moving up North, I found that in my in-laws' homes it was ok to touch anything else after touching the 'roti' as that was "dry jhootha'.However, if I ate a piece of roti dipped in curry with my right hand, that was 'wet jhootha'(as I had put it in my mouth) and now politeness demanded that I not use the right hand to touch anything else on the dinner table.</p> <p>Hey : I didn't say it makes sense - just reporting on my experience!</p> I am so thankful for this board because nice to know that I am not the only one who goes crazy when I see anyone standing on or kicking books :-)

Also : as regards ‘jhootha’, the concept varies widely from the South to the North of India. As a TamBram married to a Punju, I had to ‘adjust’ my whole concept ‘jhootha’ after marriage . Southies have no concept of ‘dry jhootha’ : in other words, growing up , even if I had only touched a “roti” with my right hand and did not touch anything else , my hand was jhootha and I could not use the same hand to serve myself anything else -with a spoon or without. After moving up North, I found that in my in-laws’ homes it was ok to touch anything else after touching the ‘roti’ as that was “dry jhootha’.However, if I ate a piece of roti dipped in curry with my right hand, that was ‘wet jhootha’(as I had put it in my mouth) and now politeness demanded that I not use the right hand to touch anything else on the dinner table.

Hey : I didn’t say it makes sense – just reporting on my experience!

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By: BadIndianGirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-1/#comment-124811 BadIndianGirl Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:46:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-124811 <blockquote>You use your left hand for washing and your right hand for eating. As a joke, my Mama would give directions using the terms "dhone-wala haath" and "khanne-wala haath"</blockquote> <p>True. My cousin's that are lefties were forced to eat with their right hands, especially when in public.</p> <p>Interestingly in Gujurati the root for the word right and eat is the same: jhum. Jhumini-baju = Right side Jhumile = Eat!</p> You use your left hand for washing and your right hand for eating. As a joke, my Mama would give directions using the terms “dhone-wala haath” and “khanne-wala haath”

True. My cousin’s that are lefties were forced to eat with their right hands, especially when in public.

Interestingly in Gujurati the root for the word right and eat is the same: jhum. Jhumini-baju = Right side Jhumile = Eat!

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By: Pagla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-1/#comment-124808 Pagla Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:39:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-124808 <blockquote>So is kissing jhoota? Or does the second clause trump the first again?</blockquote> <p>LMAO!! Kissing is fun because it's jhoota</p> <blockquote>How is cleaning your arse with your hand and water less dirty than having a friend/family member take a sip of your drink or a taste of your food?</blockquote> <p>You use your left hand for washing and your right hand for eating. As a joke, my Mama would give directions using the terms "dhone-wala haath" and "khanne-wala haath"</p> So is kissing jhoota? Or does the second clause trump the first again?

LMAO!! Kissing is fun because it’s jhoota

How is cleaning your arse with your hand and water less dirty than having a friend/family member take a sip of your drink or a taste of your food?

You use your left hand for washing and your right hand for eating. As a joke, my Mama would give directions using the terms “dhone-wala haath” and “khanne-wala haath”

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By: BadIndianGirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-1/#comment-124807 BadIndianGirl Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:33:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-124807 <blockquote><blockquote>It is jhoota only when something that has touched your mouth directly touches someone else's mouth. The deliciousness of the food automatically negates any jhootaness that might be transferred from the spoon.</blockquote></blockquote> <blockquote>So is kissing jhoota? Or does the second clause trump the first again?</blockquote> <p>LMAO Ennis! Touche!</p> <p>I think too many people obsess over <i>jhoota</i> or <i>entu</i>(sp?) as we gujus call it. How is cleaning your arse with your hand and water less dirty than having a friend/family member take a sip of your drink or a taste of your food?</p>
It is jhoota only when something that has touched your mouth directly touches someone else’s mouth. The deliciousness of the food automatically negates any jhootaness that might be transferred from the spoon.
So is kissing jhoota? Or does the second clause trump the first again?

LMAO Ennis! Touche!

I think too many people obsess over jhoota or entu(sp?) as we gujus call it. How is cleaning your arse with your hand and water less dirty than having a friend/family member take a sip of your drink or a taste of your food?

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/27/this_will_never/comment-page-1/#comment-124803 Ennis Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:13:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4282#comment-124803 <blockquote>It is jhoota only when something that has touched your mouth directly touches someone else's mouth. The deliciousness of the food automatically negates any jhootaness that might be transferred from the spoon.</blockquote> <p>So is kissing jhoota? Or does the second clause trump the first again?</p> It is jhoota only when something that has touched your mouth directly touches someone else’s mouth. The deliciousness of the food automatically negates any jhootaness that might be transferred from the spoon.

So is kissing jhoota? Or does the second clause trump the first again?

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