Comments on: Discrimination down under http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Oioioi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-179577 Oioioi Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:15:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-179577 <p>It is well know saying in Oz that when anyone goes to the shakey isles, the level of intelligence in that person's country of origin and NZ goes up1 So what do you expect?</p> It is well know saying in Oz that when anyone goes to the shakey isles, the level of intelligence in that person’s country of origin and NZ goes up1 So what do you expect?

]]> By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124496 Ennis Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:11:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124496 <blockquote>it appears that using aircraft toilets while they're on the ground is completely against the rules</blockquote> <p>I've never heard that in the USA, although it may be true elsewhere.</p> it appears that using aircraft toilets while they’re on the ground is completely against the rules

I’ve never heard that in the USA, although it may be true elsewhere.

]]> By: chachaji http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124462 chachaji Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:29:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124462 <blockquote>it appears that using aircraft toilets while they're on the ground is completely against the rules</blockquote> <p>Even if that is true, (BTW, how are peoples' toilet emergencies then handled if it's a blanket ban?) it can't be an "offloading offence". Plus, he was not using the toilet in the conventional sense, he was adjusting his <i>dastaar</i>. That seems to me to be just the kind of reasonable accomodation any airline - or other org - should have to make.</p> it appears that using aircraft toilets while they’re on the ground is completely against the rules

Even if that is true, (BTW, how are peoples’ toilet emergencies then handled if it’s a blanket ban?) it can’t be an “offloading offence”. Plus, he was not using the toilet in the conventional sense, he was adjusting his dastaar. That seems to me to be just the kind of reasonable accomodation any airline – or other org – should have to make.

]]> By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124403 Ennis Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:16:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124403 <blockquote>it is inconceivable that this incident is as simple as most correspondents have accepted!</blockquote> <p>I've been following the news - Qantas has offered nothing else in their defense that I have seen. Remember that Qantas crews flying to Bombay are probably very different from those flying "local" routes within NZ.</p> <blockquote>Poor Qantas. A million hours of flawless air-time, mostly great service, no fatal accidents and yet all it takes is a bunch of whinging americans to single out a single incident that's happened a handful of times in this part of the world as opposed to the almost everyday occurrences there to taint already ignorant minds. </blockquote> <p>Boo hoo. Poor Qantas. Would you feel the same way if it had happened to you? More to the point, not only did this happen, but it was dealt with poorly. I would have a wee bit of sympathy for Qantas if they had admitted their mistake and apologized. Instead they've acted defensively. That's very poor form, it continues and compounds the offense. The first bit might have been a mistake, but the defense of the action of the crew is a choice.</p> it is inconceivable that this incident is as simple as most correspondents have accepted!

I’ve been following the news – Qantas has offered nothing else in their defense that I have seen. Remember that Qantas crews flying to Bombay are probably very different from those flying “local” routes within NZ.

Poor Qantas. A million hours of flawless air-time, mostly great service, no fatal accidents and yet all it takes is a bunch of whinging americans to single out a single incident that’s happened a handful of times in this part of the world as opposed to the almost everyday occurrences there to taint already ignorant minds.

Boo hoo. Poor Qantas. Would you feel the same way if it had happened to you? More to the point, not only did this happen, but it was dealt with poorly. I would have a wee bit of sympathy for Qantas if they had admitted their mistake and apologized. Instead they’ve acted defensively. That’s very poor form, it continues and compounds the offense. The first bit might have been a mistake, but the defense of the action of the crew is a choice.

]]> By: mozza http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124390 mozza Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:41:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124390 <p>Qantas has been flying into Mumbai for ove 30 years on a multi weekly basis..it has been a genuine international carrier for almost a century..it is inconceivable that this incident is as simple as most correspondents have accepted!</p> Qantas has been flying into Mumbai for ove 30 years on a multi weekly basis..it has been a genuine international carrier for almost a century..it is inconceivable that this incident is as simple as most correspondents have accepted!

]]> By: aviator http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124385 aviator Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:40:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124385 <p>Poor Qantas. A million hours of flawless air-time, mostly great service, no fatal accidents and yet all it takes is a bunch of whinging americans to single out a single incident that's happened a handful of times in this part of the world as opposed to the almost everyday occurrences there to taint already ignorant minds.</p> <p>I feel for you, I really do. And no, I'm not a kiwi or an aussie.</p> Poor Qantas. A million hours of flawless air-time, mostly great service, no fatal accidents and yet all it takes is a bunch of whinging americans to single out a single incident that’s happened a handful of times in this part of the world as opposed to the almost everyday occurrences there to taint already ignorant minds.

I feel for you, I really do. And no, I’m not a kiwi or an aussie.

]]> By: Kate http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124369 Kate Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:45:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124369 <p>I'm not in anyway defending the views and actions of the critical passengers (I personally find them abhorrent), but after relating the story to a work-colleague whose husband is a pilot it appears that using aircraft toilets while they're on the ground is completely against the rules. In my experience, the doors are always locked while boarding and the crew generally unlock them after take-off. I would hope that the attendant banging on the doors was saying that regulations meant he couldn't use the loo before take-off.</p> I’m not in anyway defending the views and actions of the critical passengers (I personally find them abhorrent), but after relating the story to a work-colleague whose husband is a pilot it appears that using aircraft toilets while they’re on the ground is completely against the rules. In my experience, the doors are always locked while boarding and the crew generally unlock them after take-off. I would hope that the attendant banging on the doors was saying that regulations meant he couldn’t use the loo before take-off.

]]> By: Arjun http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124364 Arjun Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:33:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124364 <p>Weeell, let's just say Pakistan is geographically in South Asia and aspirationally in the Middle-East, shall we?</p> <p>Chill, people.</p> Weeell, let’s just say Pakistan is geographically in South Asia and aspirationally in the Middle-East, shall we?

Chill, people.

]]> By: Shubha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124341 Shubha Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:15:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124341 <p>Pakistan is definitely part of South Asia (being in the south of asia..duh!) and also a part of Central Asia (as are Afghanistan, Kajakistan etc). That's a geography lesson. Culture and religion wise, Pakistan tends to look towards the Middle East (or at least it says so)than its other South Asian neibhors for comradarie and direction. That does not change its location though. That would be like saying Russia is in Europe because it has a christian population (that only makes its culture/demographics European)</p> Pakistan is definitely part of South Asia (being in the south of asia..duh!) and also a part of Central Asia (as are Afghanistan, Kajakistan etc). That’s a geography lesson. Culture and religion wise, Pakistan tends to look towards the Middle East (or at least it says so)than its other South Asian neibhors for comradarie and direction. That does not change its location though. That would be like saying Russia is in Europe because it has a christian population (that only makes its culture/demographics European)

]]> By: Faraz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/03/23/discrimination/comment-page-2/#comment-124331 Faraz Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:44:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4275#comment-124331 <p>Why isn;t anybody posting new stories?? I need new desi stories. Please somebody</p> <p>P.S Is Pakistan part of the middle east or part of south Asia?</p> Why isn;t anybody posting new stories?? I need new desi stories. Please somebody

P.S Is Pakistan part of the middle east or part of south Asia?

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