Comments on: Gandhi and the Jews

By: Ursula

Ursula — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:17:09 +0000

There is one problem with 'having to fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here'. They wouldn't have come over here to fight us! And 9/11 was an inside job, the Iraqis, Al Qaida etc. had absolutely nothing to do with it. About half of the 'terrorists' that allegedly died, flying planes into buildings or crashing, turned up alive and well not long after their names were published, protesting that they hadn't been in the USA, and obviously had not flown planes into anything, as they were very much alive.

And they're still looking for the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, that was supposedly the cause of attacking that country. They never existed, it was clever propaganda to get the masses to agree with attacking Iraq.

By: Manju

Manju — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:24:58 +0000

Bess, thanks for doing your part in ensuring a successful threadurrection.

By: bess

bess — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:19:17 +0000

Is that what she said, Manju?

"I WOULD risk violence a thousand times rather than risk the emasculation of a whole race. (YI, 4-8-1920, p5)"

I wonder if that will take over the "be the change" quote. Will it fit on a bumper sticker?

By: Manju

Manju — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:10:26 +0000

Threadurrection

By: Satyajit Wry

Satyajit Wry — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:10:06 +0000

I know it’s an old thread, but since it’s apparently active again, another interesting Gandhi quote:

“Though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defence or for the defence of the defenseless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission. The latter befits neither man nor woman. Under violence, there are many stages and varieties of bravery. Every man must judge this for himself. No other person can or has the right. (H, 27-10-1946, pp369-70) “

And these next ones basically embody what Spirit was saying:

“Self-defence….is the only honourable course where there is unreadiness for self-immolation.” (ibid, p181)

“I WOULD risk violence a thousand times rather than risk the emasculation of a whole race. (YI, 4-8-1920, p5)”

http://www.mkgandhi-sarvodaya.org/momgandhi/chap28.htm

By: spirit

spirit — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:00:51 +0000

Gandhi's words were spoken as a true spiritual being. If you are a truly spiritual being then this world is nothing but illusion to you and death is nothing to fear as it is merely a return to a normal state. From this deeply spiritual perspective, Gandhi was correct.

However, most people do not and cannot attain this level of spirituality and therefore do not understand what he was getting at.

Gandhi was a true sage and his strength is many times greater than those who preach violence out of fear and loathing.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:24:14 +0000

To say Iraq never posed a real threat to America is wildly naive and is re-writing history (thanks Democrats!) Hussein consistently denied weapons inspectors access to his facilities (illegal), AND, he was supplying weapons and money to terrorists--the same terrorist organization that took down the Twin Towers on 9/11. If left to his own devices, he would have continued to poison and kill his own people, and attack his neighbors on all fronts. He was, by all accounts, the next Hitler.

And now, because America has been so cleanly brainwashed to believe the 'no weapons of mass destruction' argument as being the sole reason we were somehow 'wrong' to take this guy out, we have enabled Iran's nuclear weapons program which will be unleashed upon the world by 2013 (if not sooner).

America's willingness to turn our backs on the world was what kept us out of WWII until it was too late for millions of Jews. History is about to repeat itself, so enjoy your delusion while you can.

By: Jess

Jess — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:02:05 +0000

You what is really funny? Gandhi said all that to Europeans and Jews, but he supported India going to war with Pakistan. That was one reason for denying him a Nobel Peace prize. He also believed in the caste system with all his heart. He equated the caste system with the natural law of gravity. He was also quite racist. Even in his late thirties he wrote terrible things against black people and joined the British in some war against black people, as a stretcher bearer. He even wrote about helping British individuals who were wounded. Later, however, he said he helped wounded black people. A liar, a hypocrite, a racist, and a castist, and a Hindu extremist. That was Gandhi.

By: midnoon

midnoon — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:54:30 +0000

“War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” - John Stuart Mill

By: Vivek Golikeri

Vivek Golikeri — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:46:10 +0000

Subhash Chandra Bose did not "roll out the red carpet" for the Japanese Empire, Samjay. He knew full well what creeps both the Nazis and Japan's leaders were. Accordingly, he arranged his invasion-liberation of India in such a way that only Indians would be in charge of policy-making and commands.

The real reason Subhash failed is that the timetable of World War Two rolled against him. Had the USA developed the atomic bomb a year later than it did, or had he been able to begin his invasion of the Raj a year earlier than occured, Azad Hind Fauj troops would have reached Delhi successfully. And all along the way, millions of Indians would risen up to support them, using weapons Japan supplied because it suited Japan's interests.

They liberated the Andaman Islands, and at the Battles of Kohima and Imphal, inflicted thumping defeats on the British. But just when they were getting on a roll, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed, and Japan --- the source of his supplies --- dried up. Subhash anxiously flew back to Japan to size up the situation, and died in a 'plane crash. Possibly the Allies had planted a bomb in the 'plane.

Subhash was the true cause of India's freedom, not that ugly bufoon they call "Mahatma." It was exactly violence, and nothing but violence, that cut off the hands of British control. What Gandhi and Nehru did in fact achieve was the creation of a political culture and national consciousness, and the laying of the foundations for a mature democracy.