Comments on: “Samjhauta” Thwarted: Another Senseless, Horrible Bombing http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anil Rao http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-120834 Anil Rao Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:22:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-120834 <p>Aslam on February 26, 2007 11:49 PM • Direct link</p> <p>India supports terrorism and has supported in the past. Muslim terrorism is the backlash against it. And yes, Indian mischief in Sri Lanka should not be forgotten.</p> <p>HAHAHAHAHAHA</p> <h2>You want me to remind you of Thackeray's comments or Gujarat riots?</h2> <p>Can anyone tell me when India has supported terror?.I am surprised by the ignorance by some posters and the lack of condemnation here.</p> <ol> <li><p>As far as Srilanka goes lets not forget the enormous sacrifices made by the Indian peace keeping force and the sacrifice of Rajiv Gandhi’s life. India failed in spite of loosing thousands of solder’s lives.(I was very young to disapprove of this operation……but its like “becoming wise after the event)..</p></li> <li><p>Compared to that what’s the contribution of Pakistan in Bangladesh and Afghanistan (Lets not talk about Pakistan’s support to Taliban and Al-Qida here)!! Lets talk about Bangladesh liberation, where Pakistani Punjabi army terrorized and butchered thousands of innocents Bengali muslims. India went there like in srilanka but with a different result. That is a viable Bangladesh was formed (not on religious basis and its still a democracy).So India’s war against terror have limited results. Contrary to this where Pakistanis are sponsoring, harbouring and masterminding in blowing up moderate Kashmiri leaders and Hindu pundits?</p></li> <li><p>Gujarat riots are concerned its an internal turmoil like the ones happening in Pakistan and Iraq-the shia- sunni conflict(like it was perceived in the muslim world that this is a conspiracy by western world,same way many Indians like me feel the Majority-minority-riots in India are the handiwork of Pakistan and its agencies).These types of riots should be condemned and responsible should face the law of the land.</p></li> </ol> <p>I am not interested or agree of what Thackeray says politically but practically he is just a hard line politician (but he is entitled to his view in a democracy and there onwards it’s a choice).</p> <p>When people talk about desi unity moment against stereo types of terrorists in US ,only we have to say we are not from Pakistan or explain Pagidi /dasti is different to what arabs wear(I am not saying all Pakistani’s support terror but the question is what are they doing to question their government and Agencies?).well that may be too much to ask in a dictatorship!!</p> Aslam on February 26, 2007 11:49 PM • Direct link

India supports terrorism and has supported in the past. Muslim terrorism is the backlash against it. And yes, Indian mischief in Sri Lanka should not be forgotten.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

You want me to remind you of Thackeray’s comments or Gujarat riots?

Can anyone tell me when India has supported terror?.I am surprised by the ignorance by some posters and the lack of condemnation here.

  1. As far as Srilanka goes lets not forget the enormous sacrifices made by the Indian peace keeping force and the sacrifice of Rajiv Gandhi’s life. India failed in spite of loosing thousands of solder’s lives.(I was very young to disapprove of this operation……but its like “becoming wise after the event)..

  2. Compared to that what’s the contribution of Pakistan in Bangladesh and Afghanistan (Lets not talk about Pakistan’s support to Taliban and Al-Qida here)!! Lets talk about Bangladesh liberation, where Pakistani Punjabi army terrorized and butchered thousands of innocents Bengali muslims. India went there like in srilanka but with a different result. That is a viable Bangladesh was formed (not on religious basis and its still a democracy).So India’s war against terror have limited results. Contrary to this where Pakistanis are sponsoring, harbouring and masterminding in blowing up moderate Kashmiri leaders and Hindu pundits?

  3. Gujarat riots are concerned its an internal turmoil like the ones happening in Pakistan and Iraq-the shia- sunni conflict(like it was perceived in the muslim world that this is a conspiracy by western world,same way many Indians like me feel the Majority-minority-riots in India are the handiwork of Pakistan and its agencies).These types of riots should be condemned and responsible should face the law of the land.

I am not interested or agree of what Thackeray says politically but practically he is just a hard line politician (but he is entitled to his view in a democracy and there onwards it’s a choice).

When people talk about desi unity moment against stereo types of terrorists in US ,only we have to say we are not from Pakistan or explain Pagidi /dasti is different to what arabs wear(I am not saying all Pakistani’s support terror but the question is what are they doing to question their government and Agencies?).well that may be too much to ask in a dictatorship!!

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By: aslam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119971 aslam Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:55:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119971 <p><i>Anil. This is the most sane comment on this thread. As for Aakash bringing in RSS into the picture is playing right into the hands of the perpetrators. Pakistan is known to cultivate hatred against Indians and hindus. The very next day of the blasts Pakistan television was up with reports of RSS and Bajrangdal's involvement. </i></p> <p>HAHAHAHAHAHA You want me to remind you of Thackeray's comments or Gujarat riots?</p> Anil. This is the most sane comment on this thread. As for Aakash bringing in RSS into the picture is playing right into the hands of the perpetrators. Pakistan is known to cultivate hatred against Indians and hindus. The very next day of the blasts Pakistan television was up with reports of RSS and Bajrangdal’s involvement.

HAHAHAHAHAHA You want me to remind you of Thackeray’s comments or Gujarat riots?

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By: Aslam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119969 Aslam Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:49:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119969 <p>India supports terrorism and has supported in the past. Muslim terrorism is the backlash against it. And yes, Indian mischief in Sri Lanka should not be forgotten.</p> India supports terrorism and has supported in the past. Muslim terrorism is the backlash against it. And yes, Indian mischief in Sri Lanka should not be forgotten.

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By: Topcat http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119764 Topcat Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:50:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119764 <p>It seems like joint enquiry is a Pakistani ploy to drag and involve India and its Muslims to share the Pakistani reputation for global terror activities. That’s what Pakistan wants to cash on.They developed terror cells in India and these cells are not getting as much blame world wide as Pakistan would like to! Because they believe that any way they are drowning as the source of terror around the world and they want to take India and its Muslims with them to spoil Indian reputation in the war against terror!!(it should be noted here till now no Indian Muslim is involved in any global terror act,for that matter no Indians after the bombing of Indian air lines flight Kanishka by perceived Indian origin terrorists.(even though Canadian system took more than a decade to come to a conclusion and still the case is on). As per terror activities in India, lets accept that with out the local help its difficult to carry out these terror acts. Because the master minds were always Pakistani nationals in all the recent terror acts (weather its in Mumbai, Delhi and varanasi bomb blasts). It will take time to bring the culprits who are behind the samjhauta express.As for the Terrorists speaking local Hindi ,well They can disguise by wearing dasti and dothi also ,That doesn’t tell us much!! however,Lets not kid our selfs.We all know the facts. Lets hope common sense will prevail!!</p> <p>Anil. This is the most sane comment on this thread. As for Aakash bringing in RSS into the picture is playing right into the hands of the perpetrators. Pakistan is known to cultivate hatred against Indians and hindus. The very next day of the blasts Pakistan television was up with reports of RSS and Bajrangdal's involvement.</p> It seems like joint enquiry is a Pakistani ploy to drag and involve India and its Muslims to share the Pakistani reputation for global terror activities. That’s what Pakistan wants to cash on.They developed terror cells in India and these cells are not getting as much blame world wide as Pakistan would like to! Because they believe that any way they are drowning as the source of terror around the world and they want to take India and its Muslims with them to spoil Indian reputation in the war against terror!!(it should be noted here till now no Indian Muslim is involved in any global terror act,for that matter no Indians after the bombing of Indian air lines flight Kanishka by perceived Indian origin terrorists.(even though Canadian system took more than a decade to come to a conclusion and still the case is on). As per terror activities in India, lets accept that with out the local help its difficult to carry out these terror acts. Because the master minds were always Pakistani nationals in all the recent terror acts (weather its in Mumbai, Delhi and varanasi bomb blasts). It will take time to bring the culprits who are behind the samjhauta express.As for the Terrorists speaking local Hindi ,well They can disguise by wearing dasti and dothi also ,That doesn’t tell us much!! however,Lets not kid our selfs.We all know the facts. Lets hope common sense will prevail!!

Anil. This is the most sane comment on this thread. As for Aakash bringing in RSS into the picture is playing right into the hands of the perpetrators. Pakistan is known to cultivate hatred against Indians and hindus. The very next day of the blasts Pakistan television was up with reports of RSS and Bajrangdal’s involvement.

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By: Jit http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119628 Jit Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:38:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119628 <p>Aakash, unless you were being sarcastic, that has to rank as one of the most stupid comments I have had the misfortune of reading.</p> Aakash, unless you were being sarcastic, that has to rank as one of the most stupid comments I have had the misfortune of reading.

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By: Aakash http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119596 Aakash Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:30:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119596 <p>Everyone knows the role of Rastriya Sayamsewak Sangh(RSS) in the terror attack against Gandhi in 1948. Therefore whether RSS is behind this blast also should be impartially investigated.</p> Everyone knows the role of Rastriya Sayamsewak Sangh(RSS) in the terror attack against Gandhi in 1948. Therefore whether RSS is behind this blast also should be impartially investigated.

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By: Anil Rao http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119573 Anil Rao Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:05:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119573 <p>It seems like joint enquiry is a Pakistani ploy to drag and involve India and its Muslims to share the Pakistani reputation for global terror activities. That’s what Pakistan wants to cash on.They developed terror cells in India and these cells are not getting as much blame world wide as Pakistan would like to! Because they believe that any way they are drowning as the source of terror around the world and they want to take India and its Muslims with them to spoil Indian reputation in the war against terror!!(it should be noted here till now no Indian Muslim is involved in any global terror act,for that matter no Indians after the bombing of Indian air lines flight Kanishka by perceived Indian origin terrorists.(even though Canadian system took more than a decade to come to a conclusion and still the case is on). As per terror activities in India, lets accept that with out the local help its difficult to carry out these terror acts. Because the master minds were always Pakistani nationals in all the recent terror acts (weather its in Mumbai, Delhi and varanasi bomb blasts). It will take time to bring the culprits who are behind the samjhauta express.As for the Terrorists speaking local Hindi ,well They can disguise by wearing dasti and dothi also ,That doesn’t tell us much!! however,Lets not kid our selfs.We all know the facts.</p> <p>Lets hope common sense will prevail!!</p> It seems like joint enquiry is a Pakistani ploy to drag and involve India and its Muslims to share the Pakistani reputation for global terror activities. That’s what Pakistan wants to cash on.They developed terror cells in India and these cells are not getting as much blame world wide as Pakistan would like to! Because they believe that any way they are drowning as the source of terror around the world and they want to take India and its Muslims with them to spoil Indian reputation in the war against terror!!(it should be noted here till now no Indian Muslim is involved in any global terror act,for that matter no Indians after the bombing of Indian air lines flight Kanishka by perceived Indian origin terrorists.(even though Canadian system took more than a decade to come to a conclusion and still the case is on). As per terror activities in India, lets accept that with out the local help its difficult to carry out these terror acts. Because the master minds were always Pakistani nationals in all the recent terror acts (weather its in Mumbai, Delhi and varanasi bomb blasts). It will take time to bring the culprits who are behind the samjhauta express.As for the Terrorists speaking local Hindi ,well They can disguise by wearing dasti and dothi also ,That doesn’t tell us much!! however,Lets not kid our selfs.We all know the facts.

Lets hope common sense will prevail!!

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By: shiva http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119264 shiva Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:17:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119264 <p>Whoever did this must be heartless. No one has highlighted the suffering of the victims as sensitively as Saeed Naqvi <a href="http://www.indianexpress.com/story/23773.html">There are various categories of people who travel between India and Pakistan. The seminarists, track-two professionals and the rich fly. This costs Rs 15,000. The Delhi-Lahore-Delhi bus costs Rs 900 each way. Both these methods of transport are beyond the means of those for whom relatives are the primary emotional anchor in life — the poorest Muslims on both sides. The Samjhauta fare is Rs 120. It is these poor lives that have been lost in a macabre incineration of the two coaches.</a> Naqvi - the world's finest international correspondent - hasn't written in the Express for almost a year. It is a sorry thing that he had to return to its columns to write this article.</p> Whoever did this must be heartless. No one has highlighted the suffering of the victims as sensitively as Saeed Naqvi There are various categories of people who travel between India and Pakistan. The seminarists, track-two professionals and the rich fly. This costs Rs 15,000. The Delhi-Lahore-Delhi bus costs Rs 900 each way. Both these methods of transport are beyond the means of those for whom relatives are the primary emotional anchor in life — the poorest Muslims on both sides. The Samjhauta fare is Rs 120. It is these poor lives that have been lost in a macabre incineration of the two coaches. Naqvi – the world’s finest international correspondent – hasn’t written in the Express for almost a year. It is a sorry thing that he had to return to its columns to write this article.

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119243 Kush Tandon Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:38:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119243 <p><i>Back on topic -- this is big news in Karachi, of course, given some of the dead are Pakistanis. And the National assembly has demanded a joint PK-India inquiry.</i></p> <p><b>Ikram,</b></p> <p><a href="http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070222/main3.htm">There is a reason for no joint inquiry. </a> It is possible that in long run both the governments see a common monster.</p> <p>Right now, it is only talk (that in itself is quite significant), maybe in future.</p> <p>The best we can hope is that the victims and affected families are treated with dignity, and care.</p> Back on topic — this is big news in Karachi, of course, given some of the dead are Pakistanis. And the National assembly has demanded a joint PK-India inquiry.

Ikram,

There is a reason for no joint inquiry. It is possible that in long run both the governments see a common monster.

Right now, it is only talk (that in itself is quite significant), maybe in future.

The best we can hope is that the victims and affected families are treated with dignity, and care.

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By: Ikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/20/samjhauta_thwar/comment-page-1/#comment-119242 Ikram Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:28:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4195#comment-119242 <p>Back on topic -- this is big news in Karachi, of course, given some of the dead are Pakistanis. And the National assembly has <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2007/02/21/top14.htm">demanded a joint PK-India inquiry</a>.</p> <p>And how perfect is this -- Indian soldier <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2007/02/21/top14.htm">Kashmir Singh dies</a> saving Pakistani passengers on the Samjhauta Express! Is there a better name for this than Kashmir Singh! I can see the highly allegorical yet oddly boring Deepa Mehta movie already. More seriously, the Dawn has recieved some nice letters <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2007/02/21/letted.htm">from Indians</a> on the tragedy. All this will likely create goodwill. Silver lining, etc.</p> Back on topic — this is big news in Karachi, of course, given some of the dead are Pakistanis. And the National assembly has demanded a joint PK-India inquiry.

And how perfect is this — Indian soldier Kashmir Singh dies saving Pakistani passengers on the Samjhauta Express! Is there a better name for this than Kashmir Singh! I can see the highly allegorical yet oddly boring Deepa Mehta movie already. More seriously, the Dawn has recieved some nice letters from Indians on the tragedy. All this will likely create goodwill. Silver lining, etc.

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