Comments on: Art or incitement? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Axeman http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118925 Axeman Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:00:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118925 <p>Wow, this is incredibly bad music. Are folks sure they didn't get banned for that? I'm willing to use the principle of charity for Pakistani television, and suggest that they banned it for that reason - I doubt they made it till the end of the video.</p> Wow, this is incredibly bad music. Are folks sure they didn’t get banned for that? I’m willing to use the principle of charity for Pakistani television, and suggest that they banned it for that reason – I doubt they made it till the end of the video.

]]> By: paul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118815 paul Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:33:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118815 <p>Test. Please ignore this comment. ☞©▲♧♡☢$@?´₧➢➣ŊÍ❡❤</p> Test. Please ignore this comment. ☞©▲♧♡☢$@?´₧➢➣ŊÍ❡❤

]]> By: Falak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118807 Falak Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:33:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118807 <p>RC - So what’s your point?</p> <p>Red Snapper - You've made it embarrassingly clear that you didn't like the song or the video. You're not the only one, and you're entitled to your opinion. The only thing we take issue with is the fantastical starting point for your critique of the video that's taken a life of its own. In our minds, making us out to be terrorist sympathizers that identify with suicide bombers is really more a reflection on where you're coming from. Must be pleasant living in your simplistic world of 'us' v. 'them' black and white morality.</p> RC – So what’s your point?

Red Snapper – You’ve made it embarrassingly clear that you didn’t like the song or the video. You’re not the only one, and you’re entitled to your opinion. The only thing we take issue with is the fantastical starting point for your critique of the video that’s taken a life of its own. In our minds, making us out to be terrorist sympathizers that identify with suicide bombers is really more a reflection on where you’re coming from. Must be pleasant living in your simplistic world of ‘us’ v. ‘them’ black and white morality.

]]> By: Falak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118806 Falak Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:28:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118806 <p>Jake - whatever message you took away from the video, thanks for being good-humoured about it. You're not the only 'gringo' to have seen or commented on it, but your comments are much appreciated all the same.</p> <p>Niharika, blah and Arun - Many thanks for your kind comments; we really needed that.</p> Jake – whatever message you took away from the video, thanks for being good-humoured about it. You’re not the only ‘gringo’ to have seen or commented on it, but your comments are much appreciated all the same.

Niharika, blah and Arun – Many thanks for your kind comments; we really needed that.

]]> By: Falak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118804 Falak Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:25:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118804 <p>Whodat – thanks for your comments. You’re obviously entitled to whatever you took away from the video. But that’s really the last thing we were trying to suggest, and in our opinion that’s not what we actually portrayed. On the contrary, we wanted to portray the banal every-dayness of the whole run-up to what happened, devoid of any ‘style’ or anything out of the ordinary. We feel that for you to suggest that there is “no ambiguity” in our ‘message’ is a blatantly unfair observation; just scanning the other comments on this message board demonstrates that. Many viewers did see the video for what we were trying to portray, and to say there is no ambiguity is to privilege what you took from the video over what anyone else takes away.</p> Whodat – thanks for your comments. You’re obviously entitled to whatever you took away from the video. But that’s really the last thing we were trying to suggest, and in our opinion that’s not what we actually portrayed. On the contrary, we wanted to portray the banal every-dayness of the whole run-up to what happened, devoid of any ‘style’ or anything out of the ordinary. We feel that for you to suggest that there is “no ambiguity” in our ‘message’ is a blatantly unfair observation; just scanning the other comments on this message board demonstrates that. Many viewers did see the video for what we were trying to portray, and to say there is no ambiguity is to privilege what you took from the video over what anyone else takes away.

]]> By: SM Intern http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118794 SM Intern Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:27:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118794 <p>Arun, personal attacks against other commenters (such as "dips*it") get you banned on this site. Thanks. Please argue the issues.</p> Arun, personal attacks against other commenters (such as “dips*it”) get you banned on this site. Thanks. Please argue the issues.

]]> By: Arun http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118793 Arun Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:14:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118793 <p>Guys, as much as you're hating Falaks approach, and delivery, i really feel major hostility here against Pakistani community in general; which is what disappoints me the most. kudos to them for having the balls to speak out.</p> <p>red snapper i think you personally need to pull out that "dunda" from your behind. terrorist sympathisers? you must be kidding me. im actually going to go ahead and call u an ignorant dipsh*t. I'm having a tough time differentiating between you and a lonely Texan farmer who strongly believes ALL brown dudes walk around with bombs strapped to their chests.</p> Guys, as much as you’re hating Falaks approach, and delivery, i really feel major hostility here against Pakistani community in general; which is what disappoints me the most. kudos to them for having the balls to speak out.

red snapper i think you personally need to pull out that “dunda” from your behind. terrorist sympathisers? you must be kidding me. im actually going to go ahead and call u an ignorant dipsh*t. I’m having a tough time differentiating between you and a lonely Texan farmer who strongly believes ALL brown dudes walk around with bombs strapped to their chests.

]]> By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118773 RC Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:45:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118773 <p>This video had rave reviews in Pakistan, right??</p> <p>How did the "Cartoon depiction of Prophet" go in Pakistan?? I dont remember. Freedom of expression .. my brown hairy a$$ !!!</p> This video had rave reviews in Pakistan, right??

How did the “Cartoon depiction of Prophet” go in Pakistan?? I dont remember. Freedom of expression .. my brown hairy a$$ !!!

]]> By: Red Snapper http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118770 Red Snapper Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:21:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118770 <p>Falak, you're self satirising and self spoofing, terrorist sympathisers making wanky videos to a soundtrack of Kenny G 1980's heavy metal. Yeah, the pomposity comes from the laughable obliviousness of it all, the convoluted moral vulgarity of your reasoning, your identification with suicide-bombers, the cack handed artlessness of it all (but hey, you used buff models to make your point, how dangerous!), the laughable theorising for this crap, your victimhood whining, and, I repeat, all of this to the soundtrack of hilariously curdled and wince-inducing 1980's sub Van Halen Kenny G style heavy metal, the rock equivalent of smooth jazz. Rock and Roll man!</p> <p>Falak, <a href="http://youtube.com/results?search_query=spinal+tap">know thyself...</a></p> Falak, you’re self satirising and self spoofing, terrorist sympathisers making wanky videos to a soundtrack of Kenny G 1980′s heavy metal. Yeah, the pomposity comes from the laughable obliviousness of it all, the convoluted moral vulgarity of your reasoning, your identification with suicide-bombers, the cack handed artlessness of it all (but hey, you used buff models to make your point, how dangerous!), the laughable theorising for this crap, your victimhood whining, and, I repeat, all of this to the soundtrack of hilariously curdled and wince-inducing 1980′s sub Van Halen Kenny G style heavy metal, the rock equivalent of smooth jazz. Rock and Roll man!

Falak, know thyself…

]]> By: Jake http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/02/13/art_or_inciteme/comment-page-2/#comment-118766 Jake Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:27:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4181#comment-118766 <p>80's style montage ... hilarity ensues. Though the music was decent ... for fighting other highlanders. Can't really see a message? Drinking and partying was invented by western culture so we must sacrifice ourselves to its destruction ... maybe? Probably not my cup of tea, but did I find it offensive? Not really, just a little humorous. I can imagine this video causing widespread panic to average fox news sheepies. But banning a video ... I'm not really all that surprised. Personally I think censorship of any kind is complete and utter bullshit, but its not shocking seeing the current trend of Orwellian globalization. Am I the only gringo to venture upon this, probably.</p> 80′s style montage … hilarity ensues. Though the music was decent … for fighting other highlanders. Can’t really see a message? Drinking and partying was invented by western culture so we must sacrifice ourselves to its destruction … maybe? Probably not my cup of tea, but did I find it offensive? Not really, just a little humorous. I can imagine this video causing widespread panic to average fox news sheepies. But banning a video … I’m not really all that surprised. Personally I think censorship of any kind is complete and utter bullshit, but its not shocking seeing the current trend of Orwellian globalization. Am I the only gringo to venture upon this, probably.

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