Comments on: Self flagellation on Park Ave http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ali http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-188605 Ali Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:45:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-188605 <p>On google video, search, Muharram Procession, New York</p> <p>This particular Muharram Procession has been happening for over 20 years in NY, on Park Ave.</p> <p>In fact, I went to it yesterday :)</p> <p>Ali</p> On google video, search, Muharram Procession, New York

This particular Muharram Procession has been happening for over 20 years in NY, on Park Ave.

In fact, I went to it yesterday :)

Ali

]]> By: Firoze Shakir http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-135913 Firoze Shakir Sat, 12 May 2007 18:38:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-135913 <p>Very nice informative article , I wanted your readers to link with my latest post at Word Press.</p> <p>I participate , shoot Moharam as a photo blogger.</p> <p>http://photographerno1.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/ashura-in-lucknow-2007/</p> <p>http://photographerno1.wordpress.com/2007/05/09/the-castrated-cry-of-a-shia-blogger/</p> <p>http://photographerno1.wordpress.com/2007/05/09/tandav-the-dance-of-death/</p> <p>take care as ever firoze shakir photographerno1</p> Very nice informative article , I wanted your readers to link with my latest post at Word Press.

I participate , shoot Moharam as a photo blogger.

http://photographerno1.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/ashura-in-lucknow-2007/

http://photographerno1.wordpress.com/2007/05/09/the-castrated-cry-of-a-shia-blogger/

http://photographerno1.wordpress.com/2007/05/09/tandav-the-dance-of-death/

take care as ever firoze shakir photographerno1

]]> By: Cyrus http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-117940 Cyrus Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:42:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-117940 <p>Razib, that wiki "article" is composed of a very similar substance as the rest of Wikipedia, i.e "crap"...</p> Razib, that wiki “article” is composed of a very similar substance as the rest of Wikipedia, i.e “crap”…

]]> By: Emma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-116062 Emma Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:40:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-116062 <p>Wow, I've been in NYC area 2 yrs, and NEVER heard of this parade! I have met many Pakistani-Americans who live on the Upper East Side though.</p> Wow, I’ve been in NYC area 2 yrs, and NEVER heard of this parade! I have met many Pakistani-Americans who live on the Upper East Side though.

]]> By: technophobicgeek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-115915 technophobicgeek Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:18:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-115915 <p>Many mystic philosophies delve a lot into the fundamental connections between pain and ecstasy, and how to channel one into the other. Self-infliction of pain is probably a part of that whole idea.</p> Many mystic philosophies delve a lot into the fundamental connections between pain and ecstasy, and how to channel one into the other. Self-infliction of pain is probably a part of that whole idea.

]]> By: editrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-115888 editrix Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:48:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-115888 <p>Forgive the self-promotion, but I edited an hour-long documentary about Ashura in Pakistan a couple of years ago. Although most of the movie is about the rituals during the whole ten days and the religious recitation that's a part of it, it climaxes in the kind of bloody scene that you'd imagine. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmDV_0_kceA" target="_new">Link to 2-min trailer.</a> Not having been raised in ANY religion, I find it very difficult to understand inflicting pain on yourself in the name of spirituality, whether it's Italian nuns with barbed wire under their habits or Pakistani Shias with their knives or any number of things you read about in anthropology class. An Iranian told me that it happens here in London too but very few people know about it.</p> Forgive the self-promotion, but I edited an hour-long documentary about Ashura in Pakistan a couple of years ago. Although most of the movie is about the rituals during the whole ten days and the religious recitation that’s a part of it, it climaxes in the kind of bloody scene that you’d imagine. Link to 2-min trailer. Not having been raised in ANY religion, I find it very difficult to understand inflicting pain on yourself in the name of spirituality, whether it’s Italian nuns with barbed wire under their habits or Pakistani Shias with their knives or any number of things you read about in anthropology class. An Iranian told me that it happens here in London too but very few people know about it.

]]> By: SP http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-115876 SP Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:50:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-115876 <p>IIRC, Ashura is on a particular day, but Muharram is the name of the whole holy month. In India, however, the Muharram holiday is only one day, for Ashura, which is probably why the two get conflated.</p> <p>The model tombs are called taziyas, and in north India are often made with colourful metallic paper, you see lots of them in the Lucknow imambaras, and they are taken out for processions too.</p> IIRC, Ashura is on a particular day, but Muharram is the name of the whole holy month. In India, however, the Muharram holiday is only one day, for Ashura, which is probably why the two get conflated.

The model tombs are called taziyas, and in north India are often made with colourful metallic paper, you see lots of them in the Lucknow imambaras, and they are taken out for processions too.

]]> By: DJ Drrrty Poonjabi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-115872 DJ Drrrty Poonjabi Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:20:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-115872 <blockquote>I don't get why people need to hurt themselves, in either S&M or for religious reasons, but it seems to be a relatively widespread trope. </blockquote> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algolagnia">This</a> might have something to do with it.</p> I don’t get why people need to hurt themselves, in either S&M or for religious reasons, but it seems to be a relatively widespread trope.

This might have something to do with it.

]]> By: Siroos http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-115860 Siroos Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:55:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-115860 <p>Meanwhile <a href="http://www.sepantra.com/albumshow.asp?a_id=114">in Tehran...</a></p> Meanwhile in Tehran…

]]> By: Amrita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/30/self_flagellati/comment-page-1/#comment-115854 Amrita Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:35:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4150#comment-115854 <p>I thought Ashura was called Muharram too. I wish I'd known this was happening earlier and gone to see the gorgeous model tomb. I wonder what was done with it afterwards.</p> I thought Ashura was called Muharram too. I wish I’d known this was happening earlier and gone to see the gorgeous model tomb. I wonder what was done with it afterwards.

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