Comments on: Vultures At Risk http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Manu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-116060 Manu Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:30:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-116060 <p>Saw this a little late, but nice article. These once common birds in India declined at an unprecedented rate beginning in the latter half of the 90s. Some areas saw a 95% decrease in less than 3 years. A lot of folks really thought they would go extinct before anyone figures out whats going on. I don't think theres a 100% consensus on what caused this decline, but its now widely accepted after a study by Washington State University that these birds were dying from eating carcasses of livestock treated with a common vetinary drug called Dicofenac. Prior to this study people thought it was everything from pesticide residue, bacteria, viruses etc. These birds are now slowly making a comeback, even though I don't think there were any steps taken to kerb the use of Dicofenac. Its pretty sad how poorly documented and coordinated this whole effort is. These birds are quite a site to see as they ride thermals and soar over the countryside looking for carrion. About 15 years ago if you looked up into the skies pretty much anywhere in North India (they are not as common in the South) you could see vultures dotting the sky. Nowadays you have to be really fortunate to sight even one, except in some known pockets of the country. My personal favorite amongst the vultures in India is the Lammergier or Bearded Vulture. While trekking in the Himalayas I watched these magnificient birds with a wingspan of 10 feet, pick up bones from carcasses and fly thousands of feet into the air before dropping them onto the rocks below. They would then proceed to swoop down and feed on the bone marrow inside the broken bones.</p> Saw this a little late, but nice article. These once common birds in India declined at an unprecedented rate beginning in the latter half of the 90s. Some areas saw a 95% decrease in less than 3 years. A lot of folks really thought they would go extinct before anyone figures out whats going on. I don’t think theres a 100% consensus on what caused this decline, but its now widely accepted after a study by Washington State University that these birds were dying from eating carcasses of livestock treated with a common vetinary drug called Dicofenac. Prior to this study people thought it was everything from pesticide residue, bacteria, viruses etc. These birds are now slowly making a comeback, even though I don’t think there were any steps taken to kerb the use of Dicofenac. Its pretty sad how poorly documented and coordinated this whole effort is. These birds are quite a site to see as they ride thermals and soar over the countryside looking for carrion. About 15 years ago if you looked up into the skies pretty much anywhere in North India (they are not as common in the South) you could see vultures dotting the sky. Nowadays you have to be really fortunate to sight even one, except in some known pockets of the country. My personal favorite amongst the vultures in India is the Lammergier or Bearded Vulture. While trekking in the Himalayas I watched these magnificient birds with a wingspan of 10 feet, pick up bones from carcasses and fly thousands of feet into the air before dropping them onto the rocks below. They would then proceed to swoop down and feed on the bone marrow inside the broken bones.

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By: desigirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115824 desigirl Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:48:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115824 <p>Very nice post.</p> Very nice post.

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By: Divya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115709 Divya Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:40:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115709 <blockquote>Makes me even happier when that person is a desi... or really just anyone who doesn't fit that white, dreadlocked, tree-hugging (etc.) profile</blockquote> <p>Then you'll be delighted to hear about the Chipko movement. The word literally means hugger and some of these poor villagers have even lost their lives trying to protect trees. Also check out the Bishnoi tribe of Rajasthan. This is a fascinating group of people who care deeply about their environement and literally live their day to day lives with the conscioussness that all of us are in this together. The Bishnois were the ones who nabbed Salman Khan for killing the deer btw (one of the times).</p> <p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipko_movement</p> Makes me even happier when that person is a desi… or really just anyone who doesn’t fit that white, dreadlocked, tree-hugging (etc.) profile

Then you’ll be delighted to hear about the Chipko movement. The word literally means hugger and some of these poor villagers have even lost their lives trying to protect trees. Also check out the Bishnoi tribe of Rajasthan. This is a fascinating group of people who care deeply about their environement and literally live their day to day lives with the conscioussness that all of us are in this together. The Bishnois were the ones who nabbed Salman Khan for killing the deer btw (one of the times).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipko_movement

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By: coach diesel http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115700 coach diesel Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:11:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115700 <p>So heroic....like the time my hand plunged through the maggotty possum guts and I almost pissed my pants while retching.</p> <p>The next day though, it was such a beautiful sight to see the crows feasting without risk. And now I have a collection of skeletons around my garden.</p> So heroic….like the time my hand plunged through the maggotty possum guts and I almost pissed my pants while retching.

The next day though, it was such a beautiful sight to see the crows feasting without risk. And now I have a collection of skeletons around my garden.

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By: Sriram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115691 Sriram Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:28:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115691 <blockquote>Makes me even happier when that person is a desi... or really just anyone who doesn't fit that white, dreadlocked, tree-hugging (etc.) profile.</blockquote> <p>There are more of us out there than you would think.</p> Makes me even happier when that person is a desi… or really just anyone who doesn’t fit that white, dreadlocked, tree-hugging (etc.) profile.

There are more of us out there than you would think.

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By: Shruti http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115653 Shruti Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:22:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115653 <p>OOOooh I love this post! Dearest Tamasha, I think it's just your mood, because it actually made me optimistic. (Maybe it's just because I'm a nerdy ecofemme.) Perhaps not the article itself (though there's reason for hope in the article too), but it makes me soooooo happy when people come to this realization:</p> <blockquote>It was one of those “hey, whatÂ’s up?” moments humans can have with animals, when you realize that weÂ’re all in this together, that each creature serves its function, and that the social and cultural practices of one species have significant effects on the well-being of others.</blockquote> <p>Makes me even happier when that person is a desi... or really just anyone who doesn't fit that white, dreadlocked, tree-hugging (etc.) profile. The notion that immigrants, poor people, urban dwellers and people of color don't care (and/or don't have a reason to care) about the environment is one of my biggest pet peeves. Everything you see, even in your most immediate surroundings (including yourself!!!) is part of "The Environment", and you have as much right and responsibility to the greater environment -- vultures and all -- as some hippie or bobo.</p> <blockquote>I spend a lot of time looking up and seeing a raptor can make my day. It's a shame that I so often see them as roadkill, a result of them being attracted to roadkill. I know this is creepy, but in my early morning runs, I often can be seen dragging 'stuff' to the side of the road.</blockquote> <p>I second what Saheli just said about this. Really coach, like I needed any more reasons to adore you... And I agree with you about watching predator birds -- awesome spectacle. When I go camping around lakes, I see them gliding majestically over the water, going for the kill in breathtaking swoops. Amazing.</p> OOOooh I love this post! Dearest Tamasha, I think it’s just your mood, because it actually made me optimistic. (Maybe it’s just because I’m a nerdy ecofemme.) Perhaps not the article itself (though there’s reason for hope in the article too), but it makes me soooooo happy when people come to this realization:

It was one of those “hey, what’s up?” moments humans can have with animals, when you realize that we’re all in this together, that each creature serves its function, and that the social and cultural practices of one species have significant effects on the well-being of others.

Makes me even happier when that person is a desi… or really just anyone who doesn’t fit that white, dreadlocked, tree-hugging (etc.) profile. The notion that immigrants, poor people, urban dwellers and people of color don’t care (and/or don’t have a reason to care) about the environment is one of my biggest pet peeves. Everything you see, even in your most immediate surroundings (including yourself!!!) is part of “The Environment”, and you have as much right and responsibility to the greater environment — vultures and all — as some hippie or bobo.

I spend a lot of time looking up and seeing a raptor can make my day. It’s a shame that I so often see them as roadkill, a result of them being attracted to roadkill. I know this is creepy, but in my early morning runs, I often can be seen dragging ‘stuff’ to the side of the road.

I second what Saheli just said about this. Really coach, like I needed any more reasons to adore you… And I agree with you about watching predator birds — awesome spectacle. When I go camping around lakes, I see them gliding majestically over the water, going for the kill in breathtaking swoops. Amazing.

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By: Saheli http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115642 Saheli Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:53:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115642 <p><i>I know this is creepy,</i></p> <p>Not creepy at all! Heroic! Bravo!</p> I know this is creepy,

Not creepy at all! Heroic! Bravo!

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By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115639 sakshi Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:46:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115639 <p>Thanks, Siddhartha, for blogging this.</p> <p>Vultures feeding is certainly not a pretty sight, but they are extremely elegant in flight, if you can ignore the terrible smell, that is. Also if you come across a skeleton they fed on, you have to admire the virtuosity: so perfectly cleaned up it won't look out of place in a biology lab.</p> <p>The vulture reference in Omakara's title track (<i>'chhat par aake giddh baithe, aur parnalo se khoon bahe'</i>) never fails to set my hair on edge. It'd be tragic if such a magnificient animal vanished due to an unintended mistake by mankind.</p> Thanks, Siddhartha, for blogging this.

Vultures feeding is certainly not a pretty sight, but they are extremely elegant in flight, if you can ignore the terrible smell, that is. Also if you come across a skeleton they fed on, you have to admire the virtuosity: so perfectly cleaned up it won’t look out of place in a biology lab.

The vulture reference in Omakara’s title track (‘chhat par aake giddh baithe, aur parnalo se khoon bahe’) never fails to set my hair on edge. It’d be tragic if such a magnificient animal vanished due to an unintended mistake by mankind.

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By: coach diesel http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115588 coach diesel Mon, 29 Jan 2007 02:12:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115588 <p>Thanks for such a great post. I spend a lot of time looking up and seeing a raptor can make my day. It's a shame that I so often see them as roadkill, a result of them being attracted to roadkill. I know this is creepy, but in my early morning runs, I often can be seen dragging 'stuff' to the side of the road.</p> Thanks for such a great post. I spend a lot of time looking up and seeing a raptor can make my day. It’s a shame that I so often see them as roadkill, a result of them being attracted to roadkill. I know this is creepy, but in my early morning runs, I often can be seen dragging ‘stuff’ to the side of the road.

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By: Saheli http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/28/vultures_at_ris/comment-page-1/#comment-115552 Saheli Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:07:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4146#comment-115552 <p><i>India has among the highest rate of appearance because antibiotics are readily available, relatively affordable, and totally unregulated.</i></p> <p>Antibiotic-resistant bacteria, if you are unfortunate enough to get infected with them, are really really horrible. In some sense it is the rolling back of modernity. And it's a huge problem in India. :(</p> India has among the highest rate of appearance because antibiotics are readily available, relatively affordable, and totally unregulated.

Antibiotic-resistant bacteria, if you are unfortunate enough to get infected with them, are really really horrible. In some sense it is the rolling back of modernity. And it’s a huge problem in India. :(

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