Comments on: Turban vs. Terminator http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ritika Bhatnagar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-285782 Ritika Bhatnagar Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:58:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-285782 <p>Dear Sir/Madam,</p> <p>Greeting for the Day</p> <p>It's our pleasure to share the information that we are offering Reciprocal and One Way Link Building</p> <p>Service in various categories. We are India based SEO company with our main office in Delhi –</p> <p>NCR and have a dedicated team of 20 Professional Link Builders who specialize in getting theme</p> <p>based targeted quality links for Client's website. Our main aim is provide 100% quality work to all of our estimated clients at very affordable prices</p> <p>and we have very good experience to find the clean and exclusive links from the related sites, so</p> <p>our work is very much appreciated by our clients. We provide you the Reciprocal and One way link building with following essential parameters: 1. We ensure that the page where the webmaster has added our link is cached by Google/Yahoo</p> <p>search engine depending upon the client's requirement. 2. We ensure the committed No of links on that particular link page where we will place your link. 3. We ensure that it should not be a 'FFA' (Free For All) site. 4. We ensure that the sites must be related to the theme of the campaign what we are working for. 5. We ensure the webmaster to use the proper anchor text/description provided to him to place our</p> <p>link at his site. 6. We ensure that no webmaster receives a repeated Link Request Mail for the same campaign We strictly work on performance basis and can assure you of getting quality links for your site as</p> <p>well. Most firms overseas have achieved a significant amount of savings by outsourcing either complete</p> <p>or part of their work to us in India. We wish you the best of luck for your business and looking forward to a long and healthy business</p> <p>relationship with you and your company.</p> <p>Waiting for your positive response.</p> <p>Best Regards Aleina William Internet Marketing Strategist</p> <p>P.S. This is an advertisement and a promotional mail strictly on the guidelines of CAN-SPAM act of</p> <ol> <li>We have clearly mentioned the source mail-id of this mail, also clearly mentioned the subject </li> </ol> <p>lines and they are in no way misleading in any form. We have found your mail address through our</p> <p>own efforts on the web search and not through any illegal way. If you find this mail unsolicited,</p> <p>please reply with"Remove" in the subject line and we will take care that you do not receive any</p> <p>further promotional mail.</p> Dear Sir/Madam,

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By: dok_indo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115352 dok_indo Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:42:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115352 <p>What hasn't been discussed is that the majority of the tax collected will go toward healthcare expenses, i.e. revenue for MDs, hospitals, etc. Furthermore, with the availability of preventive services more revenue will be driven toward primary care and away from speciality care. So in essence this is a progressive tax on doctors, which would explain with the CMA president (a GI) would be up in arms.</p> What hasn’t been discussed is that the majority of the tax collected will go toward healthcare expenses, i.e. revenue for MDs, hospitals, etc. Furthermore, with the availability of preventive services more revenue will be driven toward primary care and away from speciality care. So in essence this is a progressive tax on doctors, which would explain with the CMA president (a GI) would be up in arms.

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By: desishiksa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115317 desishiksa Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:57:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115317 <blockquote>If you're upset they're getting MediCal, should we also be angry at low-income women in Watts, Richmond, and EastLos who are having kids who qualify for benefits? </blockquote> <p>We shouldn't, but many people are. Many of the same ones who are angry about migrant workers getting benefits or using resources. It's amazing that any social services have survived with the amount of resentment that exists toward the recipients.</p> If you’re upset they’re getting MediCal, should we also be angry at low-income women in Watts, Richmond, and EastLos who are having kids who qualify for benefits?

We shouldn’t, but many people are. Many of the same ones who are angry about migrant workers getting benefits or using resources. It’s amazing that any social services have survived with the amount of resentment that exists toward the recipients.

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By: Totally Random http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115227 Totally Random Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:52:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115227 <blockquote>But I am not sure how long after getting laid off the programer becomes out of status. So question in your scenario 2) depends on whether the programer was ever 'out of status' or not. If not than another 3 year extention is possible. If not than I dont know. A lot of this stuff is not something that I personally went thru as I worked in a large corporation out of grad school and they had a law firm that did everything. We just got the paperwork. It was bit easier too, back then.</blockquote> <p>A person becomes out of status in 60 days after getting laid off.</p> <p>All the contractors go through law firms only. Some big contractors(200+) have their own lawyersin their payroll. Nobody can represent themselves to get a visa.</p> But I am not sure how long after getting laid off the programer becomes out of status. So question in your scenario 2) depends on whether the programer was ever ‘out of status’ or not. If not than another 3 year extention is possible. If not than I dont know. A lot of this stuff is not something that I personally went thru as I worked in a large corporation out of grad school and they had a law firm that did everything. We just got the paperwork. It was bit easier too, back then.

A person becomes out of status in 60 days after getting laid off.

All the contractors go through law firms only. Some big contractors(200+) have their own lawyersin their payroll. Nobody can represent themselves to get a visa.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115217 RC Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:12:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115217 <p>Dipanjan and Kush answered the 'Indian Programers' scenario. All I can add is that the H1-B that 'Indian Programers' firm has, is linked to 'Indian Programers' firm. Then it is the firm's responsibility to pay the hired people. They have to prove that they are giving prevailing wage. 'Indian Programers' have to pay them during the "bench" period (period when there is no project). If 'Indian Programers' cant make a profit they will lay off these people, as Dipanjan mentions. But I am not sure how long after getting laid off the programer becomes out of status. So question in your scenario 2) depends on whether the programer was ever 'out of status' or not. If not than another 3 year extention is possible. If not than I dont know.</p> <p>A lot of this stuff is not something that I personally went thru as I worked in a large corporation out of grad school and they had a law firm that did everything. We just got the paperwork. It was bit easier too, back then.</p> Dipanjan and Kush answered the ‘Indian Programers’ scenario. All I can add is that the H1-B that ‘Indian Programers’ firm has, is linked to ‘Indian Programers’ firm. Then it is the firm’s responsibility to pay the hired people. They have to prove that they are giving prevailing wage. ‘Indian Programers’ have to pay them during the “bench” period (period when there is no project). If ‘Indian Programers’ cant make a profit they will lay off these people, as Dipanjan mentions. But I am not sure how long after getting laid off the programer becomes out of status. So question in your scenario 2) depends on whether the programer was ever ‘out of status’ or not. If not than another 3 year extention is possible. If not than I dont know.

A lot of this stuff is not something that I personally went thru as I worked in a large corporation out of grad school and they had a law firm that did everything. We just got the paperwork. It was bit easier too, back then.

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By: Camille http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115205 Camille Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:19:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115205 <p>Honestly, pea, I'm disappointed. I don't dispute your experiences, I'm sure this is what happens, and my masi (an OB/GYN in LA/Anaheim) has had the exact same frustrations. That said, I think it is skewed to assume that because you ran into many undocumented folks "playing the system" that the vast majority of folks play the system. I think this is also an LA-specific thing to a certain extent. Like I said before, I seriously doubt that the "additional burden" on the welfare system outweighs the substantial subsidization to our cost of living. And further, if a kid is born in the U.S. that's really all that matters, no matter how their mamas worked it. If you're upset they're getting MediCal, should we also be angry at low-income women in Watts, Richmond, and EastLos who are having kids who qualify for benefits?</p> <p>Also, just for a moment of non-California based clarity, a substantial number of "illegal immigrants" are affluent students from Europe and India/China who let their visas overrun. Are they posing a strong burden on the system when they come in for emergency care, or do we really only care about poor immigrants who can't afford primary care and might be too scared about being deported to get good preventative care?</p> <p>Also, I'm sorry, am I the only person offended by the constant use of "illegals"? What is this, the Round Up Saloon? Should we all join the Minute Men next?</p> Honestly, pea, I’m disappointed. I don’t dispute your experiences, I’m sure this is what happens, and my masi (an OB/GYN in LA/Anaheim) has had the exact same frustrations. That said, I think it is skewed to assume that because you ran into many undocumented folks “playing the system” that the vast majority of folks play the system. I think this is also an LA-specific thing to a certain extent. Like I said before, I seriously doubt that the “additional burden” on the welfare system outweighs the substantial subsidization to our cost of living. And further, if a kid is born in the U.S. that’s really all that matters, no matter how their mamas worked it. If you’re upset they’re getting MediCal, should we also be angry at low-income women in Watts, Richmond, and EastLos who are having kids who qualify for benefits?

Also, just for a moment of non-California based clarity, a substantial number of “illegal immigrants” are affluent students from Europe and India/China who let their visas overrun. Are they posing a strong burden on the system when they come in for emergency care, or do we really only care about poor immigrants who can’t afford primary care and might be too scared about being deported to get good preventative care?

Also, I’m sorry, am I the only person offended by the constant use of “illegals”? What is this, the Round Up Saloon? Should we all join the Minute Men next?

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By: Asha's Dad http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115197 Asha's Dad Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:33:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115197 <p>I grew up in Austin, the liberal part of the state, so I'm not a big fan of W either.</p> <p>It's a Texas tradition starting wars (LBJ, Bush the Elder, Bush the Dumbass) I suppose, dating back to the whole Remember the Alamo!</p> <p>Incidentally we do have a high number of uninsured patients. In my opinion the illegal immigrants have been the most rewarding patients to take care of in large part due to the fact that they are cooperative, grateful and appreciative for the care that is given to them. Most of them want to get well go back to work so that they can feed their families and send money back to Mexico, as opposed to the obese Americans who want their handicap sticker, the mechanical wheelchair, or their worker's comp disability filled out.</p> <p>Again there should be someway were everyone contributes a small fixed percentage, similar to the 911 fee everyone pays as part of their phone bill or the 9/11 security surcharge when one buys an airline ticket.</p> <p>If one really wanted to make illegal immigrants contribute to this, pass a law requiring a fee for money transfers that would go into a health care fund. Make the insurance companies, casinos, lawyers, AND doctors contribute as well. I'll give 1% of my income to fund this. It just means less money that goes to CARE, Salvation Army, UNICEF, or any of the other charities that I contribute to.</p> I grew up in Austin, the liberal part of the state, so I’m not a big fan of W either.

It’s a Texas tradition starting wars (LBJ, Bush the Elder, Bush the Dumbass) I suppose, dating back to the whole Remember the Alamo!

Incidentally we do have a high number of uninsured patients. In my opinion the illegal immigrants have been the most rewarding patients to take care of in large part due to the fact that they are cooperative, grateful and appreciative for the care that is given to them. Most of them want to get well go back to work so that they can feed their families and send money back to Mexico, as opposed to the obese Americans who want their handicap sticker, the mechanical wheelchair, or their worker’s comp disability filled out.

Again there should be someway were everyone contributes a small fixed percentage, similar to the 911 fee everyone pays as part of their phone bill or the 9/11 security surcharge when one buys an airline ticket.

If one really wanted to make illegal immigrants contribute to this, pass a law requiring a fee for money transfers that would go into a health care fund. Make the insurance companies, casinos, lawyers, AND doctors contribute as well. I’ll give 1% of my income to fund this. It just means less money that goes to CARE, Salvation Army, UNICEF, or any of the other charities that I contribute to.

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By: Mytake http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115180 Mytake Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:31:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115180 <blockquote>Last two problems are relevant not only for desi bodyshop/consulting companies, but also for large tech companies with thousands of H1B full-time employees such as Microsoft, Cisco, Oracle and IBM where the starting wages are usually at par with American employees but career growth over the following 3-6 years is a different story.</blockquote> <p>This is true. One of my friends worked for a big tech company, was paid really low. He did not want to get out because he would have to start all over again, while another friend in a consulting company was charging 80% of the billing rate and making more than this guy. Some of the desi/nondesi consulting companies(those with more than 200 employees) are actually better than many big tech companies in paying really well including insurance.</p> Last two problems are relevant not only for desi bodyshop/consulting companies, but also for large tech companies with thousands of H1B full-time employees such as Microsoft, Cisco, Oracle and IBM where the starting wages are usually at par with American employees but career growth over the following 3-6 years is a different story.

This is true. One of my friends worked for a big tech company, was paid really low. He did not want to get out because he would have to start all over again, while another friend in a consulting company was charging 80% of the billing rate and making more than this guy. Some of the desi/nondesi consulting companies(those with more than 200 employees) are actually better than many big tech companies in paying really well including insurance.

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By: chick pea http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115172 chick pea Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:09:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115172 <p>no von misses: you read my mind.. that was what i was going to say... :) happy friday....as somewhere a horse rides off into the sunset.. happy trails...</p> no von misses: you read my mind.. that was what i was going to say… :) happy friday….as somewhere a horse rides off into the sunset.. happy trails…

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By: No von Mises http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/23/turban_vs_termi/comment-page-5/#comment-115169 No von Mises Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:55:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4135#comment-115169 <p>if this thread is at its end, that's a fitting ending.</p> <p>"Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot"</p> if this thread is at its end, that’s a fitting ending.

“Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot”

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