Comments on: Shilpa Shames Them All http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sood http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-274232 Sood Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:56:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-274232 <p>Phwwwwaaaorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol @ Ana !</p> <p>You may be a fox but your bark is as bad as your bite. This is you: i is so pwetty this one time in band camp dum dee dum this guy told me i look like shilpa yay! Yah man I'll just wait for your comeback telling me I'm jealous <barf & that's not the indian sweet></p> Phwwwwaaaorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol @ Ana !

You may be a fox but your bark is as bad as your bite. This is you: i is so pwetty this one time in band camp dum dee dum this guy told me i look like shilpa yay! Yah man I’ll just wait for your comeback telling me I’m jealous

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By: Ana http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-274194 Ana Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:45:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-274194 <p>This isn't racism, this is jealousy over beauty. I am Indian and look exactly like Shilpa, other Indian girls scream at me the way Jade screamed at her. Fat ugly women don't like other women who are prettier and skinnier than them, and they go into jealous tirades over it. It happens thousands of times every day. Any beautiful woman that has lived with an unattractive, obese female has dealt it multiple times. You simply cannot stop the hatred and anger from other women if you're pretty.</p> This isn’t racism, this is jealousy over beauty. I am Indian and look exactly like Shilpa, other Indian girls scream at me the way Jade screamed at her. Fat ugly women don’t like other women who are prettier and skinnier than them, and they go into jealous tirades over it. It happens thousands of times every day. Any beautiful woman that has lived with an unattractive, obese female has dealt it multiple times. You simply cannot stop the hatred and anger from other women if you’re pretty.

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By: noon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-115695 noon Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:45:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-115695 <p><i>Shilpa and Jermaine only started discussing issues of class and upbringing in response to the venom that was being directed at Shilpa (inexplicably, from her perspective), and even then it was only after a huge amount of protracted provocation. It's not like they secretly sat down and immediately starting criticising Jade & Co as soon as they met them, motivated by some kind of snobbery on their part.</i></p> <p>Actually, they did. Their faces when Jade and her mother entered the houses were a telling picture. One newspaper printed the photo of Shilpa's facial reaction to their entry under a headline that went along the lines of "Mummy Help! They've sent in the working clarse!". And within hours of their entry Jackson and Shetty sneaked to the bathroom and discussed how 'awful' the family was, even saying they might be forced to leave rather than live with such people.</p> <p><i>- Shilpa was not going around boasting about her lifestyle, regarding the number of servants she has etc. Several of her housemates were specifically asking her about what her life is like back in India -- where she lives, what kind of house she has, and so on -- so she was just responding to those queries. This is especially pertinent when one bears in mind that Jade's mother in particular was asking her stupid (or perhaps deliberately disingenuous) questions such as whether Shilpa "lives in a shack".</i></p> <p>As Shilpa Shetty stated in her introduction video, she went in to the house intendeding to "showcase" Bollywood, and as she stated herself in the diary room, she was hoping to "educate" the others about India. Which is all well and good, but it also meant she spent an enormous amount of time "educating" the others about <i>herself</i> and <i>her lifestyle</i>. Coupled with her very imperious attitude of course it was going to look like boasting.</p> <p>She did often make derogatory comments to both Danielle and Jade Goody about their behaviour not being "ladylike", and their English being "terrible" (as compared to hers of course). Something to note there is that she several times commented that the two couldn't speak English properly, which is pretty offensive in my opinion. They speak perfectly good regional versions of English, but were talked down to and disrespected because they did not speak the more posh version that Shilpa uses. She also commented regularly on their "manners". All of that seems a bit like boasting to me, because much money has been put into Shilpas learning of Proper English and Etiquette, and she judged and berated others on their lack of that training.</p> <p><i>- Regarding the comments made on this thread about her tormentors alleged "lack of privilege": Jade has become a multimillionare during the past 5 years. Danielle has earned large amounts from modelling assignments and has been living a millionaire lifestyle with her probably-soon-to-be-ex-boyfriend. Jo is from a now-defunct British pop group which was very successful. So regardless of their original backgrounds, these people aren't exactly sheltered, poverty-stricken members of some kind of underclass who were randomly picked off the street. They've had plenty of time and opportunity to compensate for their supposed prior lack of privilege.</i></p> <p>I think this is an incredibly short sighted and classist comment. First - a few years of money does not erase a history of abuse, neglect, and poverty. Second - it seems to be a suggestion that as soon as a poor person comes into money, their first priority should be in "bettering" themselves to meet the standards of the upper classes.</p> <p>Jade's first priority was to provide for her family, which she has. She has also, in that time, given birth to two children, and they are her current priority. And in any case, poor people who come into money are not required to develop the habits and the mannerisms of the upper classes in order to justify their place in the world.</p> <p>Jo O Meara also comes from a difficult background and is not and has never been a millionaire, although she is relatively well off (compared to her childhood) and was briefly in a famous pop group.</p> <p>I am feeling very ill atm and cant get my thoughts together completely on this but I resent the attitude that Jade should be working on "bettering" herself. It's exactly that sort of prejudice that annoyed me about Shilpa Shettys constant snipes on regional English etc.</p> Shilpa and Jermaine only started discussing issues of class and upbringing in response to the venom that was being directed at Shilpa (inexplicably, from her perspective), and even then it was only after a huge amount of protracted provocation. It’s not like they secretly sat down and immediately starting criticising Jade & Co as soon as they met them, motivated by some kind of snobbery on their part.

Actually, they did. Their faces when Jade and her mother entered the houses were a telling picture. One newspaper printed the photo of Shilpa’s facial reaction to their entry under a headline that went along the lines of “Mummy Help! They’ve sent in the working clarse!”. And within hours of their entry Jackson and Shetty sneaked to the bathroom and discussed how ‘awful’ the family was, even saying they might be forced to leave rather than live with such people.

- Shilpa was not going around boasting about her lifestyle, regarding the number of servants she has etc. Several of her housemates were specifically asking her about what her life is like back in India — where she lives, what kind of house she has, and so on — so she was just responding to those queries. This is especially pertinent when one bears in mind that Jade’s mother in particular was asking her stupid (or perhaps deliberately disingenuous) questions such as whether Shilpa “lives in a shack”.

As Shilpa Shetty stated in her introduction video, she went in to the house intendeding to “showcase” Bollywood, and as she stated herself in the diary room, she was hoping to “educate” the others about India. Which is all well and good, but it also meant she spent an enormous amount of time “educating” the others about herself and her lifestyle. Coupled with her very imperious attitude of course it was going to look like boasting.

She did often make derogatory comments to both Danielle and Jade Goody about their behaviour not being “ladylike”, and their English being “terrible” (as compared to hers of course). Something to note there is that she several times commented that the two couldn’t speak English properly, which is pretty offensive in my opinion. They speak perfectly good regional versions of English, but were talked down to and disrespected because they did not speak the more posh version that Shilpa uses. She also commented regularly on their “manners”. All of that seems a bit like boasting to me, because much money has been put into Shilpas learning of Proper English and Etiquette, and she judged and berated others on their lack of that training.

- Regarding the comments made on this thread about her tormentors alleged “lack of privilege”: Jade has become a multimillionare during the past 5 years. Danielle has earned large amounts from modelling assignments and has been living a millionaire lifestyle with her probably-soon-to-be-ex-boyfriend. Jo is from a now-defunct British pop group which was very successful. So regardless of their original backgrounds, these people aren’t exactly sheltered, poverty-stricken members of some kind of underclass who were randomly picked off the street. They’ve had plenty of time and opportunity to compensate for their supposed prior lack of privilege.

I think this is an incredibly short sighted and classist comment. First – a few years of money does not erase a history of abuse, neglect, and poverty. Second – it seems to be a suggestion that as soon as a poor person comes into money, their first priority should be in “bettering” themselves to meet the standards of the upper classes.

Jade’s first priority was to provide for her family, which she has. She has also, in that time, given birth to two children, and they are her current priority. And in any case, poor people who come into money are not required to develop the habits and the mannerisms of the upper classes in order to justify their place in the world.

Jo O Meara also comes from a difficult background and is not and has never been a millionaire, although she is relatively well off (compared to her childhood) and was briefly in a famous pop group.

I am feeling very ill atm and cant get my thoughts together completely on this but I resent the attitude that Jade should be working on “bettering” herself. It’s exactly that sort of prejudice that annoyed me about Shilpa Shettys constant snipes on regional English etc.

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By: Chand Bibi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-115551 Chand Bibi Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:05:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-115551 <p>She came off as insecure in the intro video, which isn't surprising since she never made it big in Bollywood. But pressure shows the real person, no? And when the tension in the house was at its worst, there was an undeniable grace and simplicity about her. Hopefully she now feels she can show this side of her, and not drone on about how 'glam' she is.</p> She came off as insecure in the intro video, which isn’t surprising since she never made it big in Bollywood. But pressure shows the real person, no? And when the tension in the house was at its worst, there was an undeniable grace and simplicity about her. Hopefully she now feels she can show this side of her, and not drone on about how ‘glam’ she is.

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By: Mumbaikar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-115549 Mumbaikar Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:56:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-115549 <blockquote> People are enchanted by Shilpa. Gave a lovely interview</blockquote> <p>Very true, she was indeed quite full of herself in the beginning, and even today there was booing from a section of the crowd but she completely floored everyone with her final interview and thats what everybody is going to be talking about tomorrow.</p> People are enchanted by Shilpa. Gave a lovely interview

Very true, she was indeed quite full of herself in the beginning, and even today there was booing from a section of the crowd but she completely floored everyone with her final interview and thats what everybody is going to be talking about tomorrow.

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By: Red Snapper http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-115537 Red Snapper Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:11:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-115537 <blockquote>the stunning ms.rai is the first and so far only bollywood crossover star</blockquote> <p>The stunning ms.rai is about to be left in the shade by Shilpa Shetty. Trust me, the media is going wild over her. She will open films on her name alone and be the best chance of Bollywood having a true crossover hit. Shilpa has put herself in the Bollywood A list, she'll get film roles in the West because of this as well. People are enchanted by Shilpa. Gave a lovely interview, and she really is a cool, classy, elegant and dignified lady. Film roles, TV, endorsments, she deserves them all.</p> the stunning ms.rai is the first and so far only bollywood crossover star

The stunning ms.rai is about to be left in the shade by Shilpa Shetty. Trust me, the media is going wild over her. She will open films on her name alone and be the best chance of Bollywood having a true crossover hit. Shilpa has put herself in the Bollywood A list, she’ll get film roles in the West because of this as well. People are enchanted by Shilpa. Gave a lovely interview, and she really is a cool, classy, elegant and dignified lady. Film roles, TV, endorsments, she deserves them all.

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By: chick pea http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-115536 chick pea Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:11:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-115536 <blockquote>the stunning ms.rai is the first and so far only bollywood crossover star</blockquote> <p>i concur..i almost choked when she declared (on the introduction of shilpa to big brother youtube thing) that she called herself the indian angelina jolie... oh no miss shetty.. jolie is far hawter than you... and as for being a huge crossover star... um.. i wouldn't bet beans on that one..</p> the stunning ms.rai is the first and so far only bollywood crossover star

i concur..i almost choked when she declared (on the introduction of shilpa to big brother youtube thing) that she called herself the indian angelina jolie… oh no miss shetty.. jolie is far hawter than you… and as for being a huge crossover star… um.. i wouldn’t bet beans on that one..

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-115535 Kush Tandon Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:07:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-115535 <p><i>Hopefully you'll be able to catch it on the live feed from CBB's website. Stay tuned.</i></p> <p>Thanks, <b>Jai</b>. <a href="http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/index.jsp">Those are very high quality feeds.</a> <b> Manju</b>, you are a smart man (wrt to being with Bushite and with Shilpa comment). You knew the answers blow'in the wind.</p> <p>Go Shilpa, Go Shilpa</p> Hopefully you’ll be able to catch it on the live feed from CBB’s website. Stay tuned.

Thanks, Jai. Those are very high quality feeds. Manju, you are a smart man (wrt to being with Bushite and with Shilpa comment). You knew the answers blow’in the wind.

Go Shilpa, Go Shilpa

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By: Doordarshan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-115534 Doordarshan Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:05:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-115534 <p>So Shilpa Shetty has become the the most famous Bollywood star of all time. She must be congratulating herself for the bold decision to go on this show.</p> <p>Now we can expect to see more desis being casted on reality shows in british and american TV, and more bollywood stars, especially Shilpa, in british and american movies.</p> So Shilpa Shetty has become the the most famous Bollywood star of all time. She must be congratulating herself for the bold decision to go on this show.

Now we can expect to see more desis being casted on reality shows in british and american TV, and more bollywood stars, especially Shilpa, in british and american movies.

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By: sena X http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/21/ive_never_seen/comment-page-5/#comment-115532 sena X Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:51:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4129#comment-115532 <blockquote>I mean, she really has become the first Bollywood crossover star</blockquote> <p>the stunning ms.rai is the first and so far only bollywood crossover star</p> I mean, she really has become the first Bollywood crossover star

the stunning ms.rai is the first and so far only bollywood crossover star

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