Comments on: Why Can’t They All Be Like Us? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Natural Penis Enlargement http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-246902 Natural Penis Enlargement Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:29:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-246902 <p>Penis Enlargement ; The top-rated penis enlargement device. Penis enlargement science easy fast and safe penis enlargement at www.penissizeenlargement.net</p> Penis Enlargement ; The top-rated penis enlargement device. Penis enlargement science easy fast and safe penis enlargement at http://www.penissizeenlargement.net

]]>
By: Acomplia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-244738 Acomplia Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:25:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-244738 <p>This is gonna huge, i just cant belive it that i am standing at a great blog of my life, i am really glad to have my comment here in very decent topic. thanks to webmaster.</p> This is gonna huge, i just cant belive it that i am standing at a great blog of my life, i am really glad to have my comment here in very decent topic. thanks to webmaster.

]]>
By: Paul anderson http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-155294 Paul anderson Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:59:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-155294 <p>If Indians and Asians started doing the same thing some people would be like 'wtf? You've got nothing to protest about.</p> If Indians and Asians started doing the same thing some people would be like ‘wtf? You’ve got nothing to protest about.

]]>
By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-114331 Manju Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:49:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-114331 <p>BidiSmoker #110: nice post.</p> <p>MoorNam #107: "model citizen" clever counterpoint.</p> BidiSmoker #110: nice post.

MoorNam #107: “model citizen” clever counterpoint.

]]>
By: freethinker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-114290 freethinker Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:49:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-114290 <blockquote>the author is talking about a specific subset of the Indian-American population, not Asian Americans or South Asians in general, so unless you have data to prove her wrong in her assertion that Indian-Americans on average are wealthier and more educated than the general population, I would day your criticism sounds like nothing more than sour grapes.</blockquote> <p>Dumb and dishonest bullcrap. RTFA:</p> <p>"THE 2.2 MILLION Indian Americans in the U.S. constitute a model minority, highly educated and well paid."</p> <p>What part of that led you to the conclusion that she "is talking about a specific subset of the Indian-American population"??</p> the author is talking about a specific subset of the Indian-American population, not Asian Americans or South Asians in general, so unless you have data to prove her wrong in her assertion that Indian-Americans on average are wealthier and more educated than the general population, I would day your criticism sounds like nothing more than sour grapes.

Dumb and dishonest bullcrap. RTFA:

“THE 2.2 MILLION Indian Americans in the U.S. constitute a model minority, highly educated and well paid.”

What part of that led you to the conclusion that she “is talking about a specific subset of the Indian-American population”??

]]>
By: Anindo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-114211 Anindo Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:49:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-114211 <p>BidiSmoker,</p> <p>Very well said! I could not have put it down in a better fashion.</p> <p>Thanks!</p> <p>Regards,</p> BidiSmoker,

Very well said! I could not have put it down in a better fashion.

Thanks!

Regards,

]]>
By: MRT http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-114142 MRT Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:50:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-114142 <blockquote>he/she will get a bloody nose. </blockquote> <blockquote> Is that so?</blockquote> <p>Fight..Fight...Fight</p> he/she will get a bloody nose.
Is that so?

Fight..Fight…Fight

]]>
By: siddhartha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-114141 siddhartha Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:36:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-114141 <blockquote>he/she will get a bloody nose.</blockquote> <p>Is that so?</p> he/she will get a bloody nose.

Is that so?

]]>
By: MoorNam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-114026 MoorNam Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:40:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-114026 <p>siddhartha #39:</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><i>I got a problem.Why? First, because you refer to yourself as a minority. Minority is, in part, a state of mind.</i></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>I define myself as a minority of one. And I consider myself to be a model citizen (education/money/social standing etc).</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><i>you define yourself by reference to a majority.</i></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>I consider America to be a collection of minorities of one.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><i>If you call your ethnic group a model minority, then I got a problem</i></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>I don't have a problem with individuals of any group calling themselves anything. Just as I consider myself a unit of one, I considers others' right to surrender their individuality to an ethnic/caste/race/linguistic group identity. None of my business. Does not affect me in any way.</p> <p>Do you have a problem with Jews calling themselves "The chosen people"? I don't. Similiarly I don't care if desis call themselves a model minority.</p> <p>However, if anyone wants me to fit into their mold of how a model minority should be (because I'm desi), he/she will get a bloody nose.</p> <p>M. Nam</p> siddhartha #39:

I got a problem.Why? First, because you refer to yourself as a minority. Minority is, in part, a state of mind.

I define myself as a minority of one. And I consider myself to be a model citizen (education/money/social standing etc).

you define yourself by reference to a majority.

I consider America to be a collection of minorities of one.

If you call your ethnic group a model minority, then I got a problem

I don’t have a problem with individuals of any group calling themselves anything. Just as I consider myself a unit of one, I considers others’ right to surrender their individuality to an ethnic/caste/race/linguistic group identity. None of my business. Does not affect me in any way.

Do you have a problem with Jews calling themselves “The chosen people”? I don’t. Similiarly I don’t care if desis call themselves a model minority.

However, if anyone wants me to fit into their mold of how a model minority should be (because I’m desi), he/she will get a bloody nose.

M. Nam

]]>
By: Camille http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/20/why_cant_they_a/comment-page-3/#comment-113989 Camille Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:17:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4127#comment-113989 <p>Wow, I think I missed most of this conversation.. No offense, but most of the comments challenging the model minority myth are a little patronizing, y'all. This is not just about folks with affluent/educated parents not being able to deviate from the "model" and consequently feeling bad (I understand there were other arguments, also), this "myth" totally obfuscates not only the SES diversity of the community, but also ignores that these skewed statistics are the direct result of U.S. immigration policies. [and of course, as was mentioned, actively propagates anti-Black, and in California, anti-Latino, racism] I don't want to belabor this a bit, but for those who would identify with the 2nd gen, "parents came on 1960s/70s tech visas," educated & relatively affluent background, I think Vijay Prashad does a fairly good job of breaking the "myth" down in <i><a href="http://www.upress.umn.edu/Books/P/prashad_karma.html">The Karma of Brown Folk</a></i>.</p> <p>As someone with a more mixed up SES upbringing, by the time I got to college I was wildly disappointed with the community consciousness of my desi peers. Like Cicatrix mentioned, everyone assumed anyone desi was affluent with doctor/engineer parents. I had grown up in a really poor, ethnically diverse, city in the Bay Area, and all my friends who had immigrated in the 80s/90s or had parents who were truckers, taxi-wallahs, farmworkers, etc., didn't go to college. The idea of someone having to work to pay their way through school, or having grown up with family members who were undocumented, or living with 10 people in a small space was something my college peers associated with [poor] Latino families. Just because they didn't grow up with this experience - and generally grew up in really affluent "white" neighborhoods -, they assumed that this reality didn't exist. I was pretty shocked and disaffected.</p> <p>And unrelated:</p> <blockquote>On one side is the moderates and on the other side is the conservatives sikh's. The moderates are the one with tables and chairs in the temples and the conservatives are the ones where none.</blockquote> <p>Clueless, these "moderates" were "excommunicated" from the larger Sikh community. This wasn't because of tables and chairs in the <b>gurdwaras</b> (not temples, thank you), this was because SOME people were sitting at chairs/tables and others were sitting on the ground. The reason behind the controversy was that, at langar, everyone is required to be at the same level (physically) as a representation of a casteless community in which everyone is valued and considered to be equal. So long as there is uniformity in accommodation, there is a lot of flexibility.</p> <blockquote>WTF? Outside? It's 60 degrees on the left coast and i cannot find my Prada scarf.</blockquote> <p>Haha, it was 27 degrees outside 2 nights ago. I have never wanted to be on the east coast for winter, but apparently NYC/Boston with their 60/70 degree days are the place to be!</p> Wow, I think I missed most of this conversation.. No offense, but most of the comments challenging the model minority myth are a little patronizing, y’all. This is not just about folks with affluent/educated parents not being able to deviate from the “model” and consequently feeling bad (I understand there were other arguments, also), this “myth” totally obfuscates not only the SES diversity of the community, but also ignores that these skewed statistics are the direct result of U.S. immigration policies. [and of course, as was mentioned, actively propagates anti-Black, and in California, anti-Latino, racism] I don’t want to belabor this a bit, but for those who would identify with the 2nd gen, “parents came on 1960s/70s tech visas,” educated & relatively affluent background, I think Vijay Prashad does a fairly good job of breaking the “myth” down in The Karma of Brown Folk.

As someone with a more mixed up SES upbringing, by the time I got to college I was wildly disappointed with the community consciousness of my desi peers. Like Cicatrix mentioned, everyone assumed anyone desi was affluent with doctor/engineer parents. I had grown up in a really poor, ethnically diverse, city in the Bay Area, and all my friends who had immigrated in the 80s/90s or had parents who were truckers, taxi-wallahs, farmworkers, etc., didn’t go to college. The idea of someone having to work to pay their way through school, or having grown up with family members who were undocumented, or living with 10 people in a small space was something my college peers associated with [poor] Latino families. Just because they didn’t grow up with this experience – and generally grew up in really affluent “white” neighborhoods -, they assumed that this reality didn’t exist. I was pretty shocked and disaffected.

And unrelated:

On one side is the moderates and on the other side is the conservatives sikh’s. The moderates are the one with tables and chairs in the temples and the conservatives are the ones where none.

Clueless, these “moderates” were “excommunicated” from the larger Sikh community. This wasn’t because of tables and chairs in the gurdwaras (not temples, thank you), this was because SOME people were sitting at chairs/tables and others were sitting on the ground. The reason behind the controversy was that, at langar, everyone is required to be at the same level (physically) as a representation of a casteless community in which everyone is valued and considered to be equal. So long as there is uniformity in accommodation, there is a lot of flexibility.

WTF? Outside? It’s 60 degrees on the left coast and i cannot find my Prada scarf.

Haha, it was 27 degrees outside 2 nights ago. I have never wanted to be on the east coast for winter, but apparently NYC/Boston with their 60/70 degree days are the place to be!

]]>