Read about America’s black president here

Presidents have a lot of impact in a society, so of course on a list of “Most Influential X of all Time,” a lot of presidents of country X will be on the list. As for discrimination, tell me again why Sonia Gandhi was never prime minister?

Not saying the Atlantic list is perfect, but it does give the lie to the “everyone contributed equally” meme.

Never heard of Seymour; will wikipedia him tonight. Thanks for the tip.

Re paucity of Italians, Germans, etc. on the list — the reality is that they assimilated to the Protestant English model. And there is something magical about that model, e.g. if you took the blood of all 300 million Americans and distilled it into one big vat (yum!), it would only be about 10% English, yet still we (largely) follow their model because it had inherent value, i.e. what it stressed and stigmatized were the right things for a society to stress and stigmatize to become prosperous.

Re “genetic purity” — OK, maybe I misread you…but you did precede it with the following, which would be considered racist if a white person had said it:

“They [Indian emigres w/ high earning potential] expose their DNA to mixing with an alien race, they work hard to keep the alien race alive and breed more, while their own race desperately needs their services.”

I mean, that is actually Stormfront territory, and I think there you were expressing your own true thoughts, not “using my own arguments against me”. Again, the double standard is clear.

Is there any such thing as “genetic purity”?

I thought we were all hybrids.

You are not thinking rationally. If the Dawkinsian explanation is “almost a law” as you claimed, it should be more than just a “part in the calculation”.

And Door — just to clarify, you’re now on the record here as being in favor of desis maintaining their — your words — “genetic purity”?

That is dumb, dishonest and disingenuous. I am using your own arguments against you. That does not mean that I agree with them does it? If I am trying to disprove your thesis how the heck do you manage to conclude that I am “in favor” of it?

Supposedly there was an American black president for a short time way back in the beginning of the United States America’s history.

Other than country music is there any other major genre of american music that did not originate with the immensely creative african-americans?

I thought even country music sprang out of redemption songs?

You should always specify that its east asians who you are talking about here. South Asians have substantially lower tested IQs than east asians and europeans.

the December 2006 edition of the Atlantic’s cover article is called “The 100 Most Influential Americans of All Time — They Made America.” It includes 92 whites and 8 blacks.

That list is skewed heavily towards presidents, none of whom were black, jewish, hispanic or southern and eastern european, for reasons of prejudice and discrimination.

The list is dominated by anglo-saxon protestants. Italians are 8% of the population yet only one italian, Enrico Fermi the physicist, made the list and he was an immigrant who got his education in Europe. German-americans are more numerous than african-americans yet only one of them, President Eisenhower, is found on that list. No slavic-americans or scandinavian-americans made the list (based on a cursory look of the names). So the african-american contribution looks quite remarkable. Does this mean african-americans are intellectually superior or more creative than italian, german, irish, slavic americans? Why not? Isnt that the argument you are using to prove white supremacy?

BTW, there is one african-american not included in that list who I believe has had, and continues to have, more influence on America and the world than most of the others: William Seymour who started the Pentecostal Movement in a church in Los Angeles exactly a century ago. There are now over half a billion Pentecostals in the world, making it the second largest sect of christianity after Catholicism, and it is the fastest growing religion in the world. Even muslims are converting to Pentecostalism.

Other than country music is there any other major genre of american music that did not originate with the immensely creative african-americans? Even Beethoven, the greatest of the european classical music composers, was what would be considered “black” in America: anyone who looked like he had some african ancestry. That applies to Alexandre Pushkin as well, another immensely creative genius, who is considered the Shakespeare of Russia and the Father of the modern Russian Language.

For example, when seeking to answer the question “Why are some countries wealthier than others?”, I did not read 7-8 different books that attempted to answer that question (Guns Germs & Steel, The Wealth of Nations, The End of Poverty, IQ & the Wealth of Nations, etc) before deciding which one made the most sense (not that there’s nothing to the others, but one of those stands way, way out in front of the others. Hint: it’s not the one that won a Pulitzer Prize and was a NYT bestseller, it’s the one you have to pay $90 to an obscure academic press to get your hands on. It’s also the only one of those four you’ve never heard of, and whose co-author was almost arrested in Finland last year for “inciting racial hatred”. Fortunately his son was the prime minister of Finland so he got out of it).

Women have more grey matter. I always new it! (intuitively)

http://psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-20030624-000003&page=2