Comments on: Oil of Ofay http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Geo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-220668 Geo Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:11:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-220668 <p>I currently live in Hong Kong and creams of this nature are everywhere, even the local store on the corner. I know the race issue products like these can raise but realistically I don't see any difference between this type of cream or tanning cream. Alot of people just seem to have a problem with being who they are at birth. You're too white, not white enough, you're nose is too big or you have an arse like the back end of a bus. People always find physical flaws within themselves and others and think that changing their physical appearance will change their lives.</p> I currently live in Hong Kong and creams of this nature are everywhere, even the local store on the corner. I know the race issue products like these can raise but realistically I don’t see any difference between this type of cream or tanning cream. Alot of people just seem to have a problem with being who they are at birth. You’re too white, not white enough, you’re nose is too big or you have an arse like the back end of a bus. People always find physical flaws within themselves and others and think that changing their physical appearance will change their lives.

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By: Mistress of Spices http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111239 Mistress of Spices Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:05:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111239 <p>Ancient Egyptians circumsized males?</p> <p>What was there reason for that?</p> <p>I would see none for those living by the Nile.</p> <p>But there is a school of thought that says Abraham and Moses were students of the Egyptian Mystery Schools.</p> Ancient Egyptians circumsized males?

What was there reason for that?

I would see none for those living by the Nile.

But there is a school of thought that says Abraham and Moses were students of the Egyptian Mystery Schools.

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By: Sonya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111236 Sonya Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:50:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111236 <p>Truthseeker</p> <p><i>He supported his opinion by a verse from the Quran which talks about the Devil's temptation to humans to make them change the form of what God has created."</p> <p>Sounds like the Sikh rationale for not cutting hair. </i></p> <p>The Sikh rationale for not cutting hair has absolutely nothing to with what God has created or not. It is considered an identity marker...if you read the historical records there are several reasons given for this but I have never heard the faith one.</p> <p>Also, there is some debate among some historians when this marker was adopted...</p> <p>sp</p> Truthseeker

He supported his opinion by a verse from the Quran which talks about the Devil’s temptation to humans to make them change the form of what God has created.”

Sounds like the Sikh rationale for not cutting hair.

The Sikh rationale for not cutting hair has absolutely nothing to with what God has created or not. It is considered an identity marker…if you read the historical records there are several reasons given for this but I have never heard the faith one.

Also, there is some debate among some historians when this marker was adopted…

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By: Sonya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111235 Sonya Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:43:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111235 <p>Truthseeker</p> <p><i>And quite likely thats where the ancient hebrews learnt this african practice: during their centuries of slavery in Egypt.</i></p> <p>Actually, there is absolutely NO archaeological or any kind of written evidence that the Jews were ever enslaved by the Egyptians. In fact, the Egyptians were such thorough documenters of every aspect of their lives particularly during the several millennia that the Jews were supposed to be enslaved that such a momentous event as the slavery of the Jews plus all the drama around their "leaving" would have been fully documented.</p> <p>And, the Jews did not build the pyramids. This was done using contractors who either hired workers or had slaves (the non-Jewish types).</p> <p>sp</p> Truthseeker

And quite likely thats where the ancient hebrews learnt this african practice: during their centuries of slavery in Egypt.

Actually, there is absolutely NO archaeological or any kind of written evidence that the Jews were ever enslaved by the Egyptians. In fact, the Egyptians were such thorough documenters of every aspect of their lives particularly during the several millennia that the Jews were supposed to be enslaved that such a momentous event as the slavery of the Jews plus all the drama around their “leaving” would have been fully documented.

And, the Jews did not build the pyramids. This was done using contractors who either hired workers or had slaves (the non-Jewish types).

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By: Truthseeker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111230 Truthseeker Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:24:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111230 <blockquote>The cutting of the foreskin is a "covenant" between God and his "chosen" - that is how it is usually explained by Jews.</blockquote> <p>The jews did not invent the practice of circumcision. The ancient Egyptions were doing it millenia before them. And quite likely thats where the ancient hebrews learnt this african practice: during their centuries of slavery in Egypt.</p> <p>In any case, that does not answer the question posed: "how do these irrational mullahs reconcile the universal muslim practice of snipping off the foreskin of males?......Isn't that changing "the form of what God has created"?</p> <p>Fact is, the Koran does not command muslims to cut their foreskins. It is the Sunnah of Mohammad, from the time he was still in thrall of judaism, that is the basis for this muslim requirement.</p> The cutting of the foreskin is a “covenant” between God and his “chosen” – that is how it is usually explained by Jews.

The jews did not invent the practice of circumcision. The ancient Egyptions were doing it millenia before them. And quite likely thats where the ancient hebrews learnt this african practice: during their centuries of slavery in Egypt.

In any case, that does not answer the question posed: “how do these irrational mullahs reconcile the universal muslim practice of snipping off the foreskin of males?……Isn’t that changing “the form of what God has created”?

Fact is, the Koran does not command muslims to cut their foreskins. It is the Sunnah of Mohammad, from the time he was still in thrall of judaism, that is the basis for this muslim requirement.

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By: Mistress of Spices http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111225 Mistress of Spices Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:57:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111225 <p>The cutting of the foreskin is a "covenant" between God and his "chosen" - that is how it is usually explained by Jews.</p> <p>Nonetheless, in ancient times, in desert areas it would make sense to do so being that water, and thus health and cleanliness, was scarce. Bacteria and what-not can seep underneath the skin and cause damage, perhaps even leading to disease and death. But in parts of the globe where water was easily available, no need for such a precaution. And certainly in modern times and modern areas with moder conveniences, there is no longer any need, even if you live in a desert.</p> The cutting of the foreskin is a “covenant” between God and his “chosen” – that is how it is usually explained by Jews.

Nonetheless, in ancient times, in desert areas it would make sense to do so being that water, and thus health and cleanliness, was scarce. Bacteria and what-not can seep underneath the skin and cause damage, perhaps even leading to disease and death. But in parts of the globe where water was easily available, no need for such a precaution. And certainly in modern times and modern areas with moder conveniences, there is no longer any need, even if you live in a desert.

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By: Truthseeker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111220 Truthseeker Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:42:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111220 <blockquote>Fatwa from Cairo against skin bleaching creams; http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=85&art_id=qw1161865442870B221 </blockquote> <p>From the link:</p> <p>"Gomaa explained that the use of these creams which are widely used in Arab countries is considered making changes to what God created.</p> <p>He supported his opinion by a verse from the Quran which talks about the Devil's temptation to humans to make them change the form of what God has created."</p> <p>Sounds like the Sikh rationale for not cutting hair.</p> <p>So how do these irrational mullahs reconcile the universal muslim practice of snipping off the foreskin of males? And the (much less widespread) practice of cutting off the female clitoris? Isn't that changing "the form of what God has created"?</p> Fatwa from Cairo against skin bleaching creams; http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=85&art_id=qw1161865442870B221

From the link:

“Gomaa explained that the use of these creams which are widely used in Arab countries is considered making changes to what God created.

He supported his opinion by a verse from the Quran which talks about the Devil’s temptation to humans to make them change the form of what God has created.”

Sounds like the Sikh rationale for not cutting hair.

So how do these irrational mullahs reconcile the universal muslim practice of snipping off the foreskin of males? And the (much less widespread) practice of cutting off the female clitoris? Isn’t that changing “the form of what God has created”?

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By: Mistress of Spices http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111214 Mistress of Spices Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:28:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111214 <p>Fatwa from Cairo against skin bleaching creams; <a href="http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=85&art_id=qw1161865442870B221"> http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=85&art_id=qw1161865442870B221</a></p> Fatwa from Cairo against skin bleaching creams; http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=85&art_id=qw1161865442870B221

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By: technophobicgeek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111019 technophobicgeek Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:22:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111019 <blockquote>I think with men, its easier to tell. The style of clothes, hairstyle etc. are good indicators.</blockquote> <p>Ha Ha, in my case, I don't really fit into either the IBD or ABD groups in terms of the above indicators (plus accent). It's hilarious when people from both groups just decide that I must be 'British'.</p> <p>Actually there was this recent British crossover movie ('Ae fond kiss') which had a Brit-Pakistani girl telling her sister about a prospective groom: "He's tall, fair and has a head full of hair, what more could you want?". That's when I realized why I don't get any attention from the desi ladies (short, dark and shaved head :D ).</p> I think with men, its easier to tell. The style of clothes, hairstyle etc. are good indicators.

Ha Ha, in my case, I don’t really fit into either the IBD or ABD groups in terms of the above indicators (plus accent). It’s hilarious when people from both groups just decide that I must be ‘British’.

Actually there was this recent British crossover movie (‘Ae fond kiss’) which had a Brit-Pakistani girl telling her sister about a prospective groom: “He’s tall, fair and has a head full of hair, what more could you want?”. That’s when I realized why I don’t get any attention from the desi ladies (short, dark and shaved head :D ).

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By: Al Mujahid for debauchery http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/01/06/oil_of_ofay/comment-page-3/#comment-111006 Al Mujahid for debauchery Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:28:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4075#comment-111006 <p><i>Hehe. Thats exactly the way to deal with desis, including the stupid, nasty color-obsessed aunties, who try to distance themselves from the desi stereotype. </i></p> <p><i>If you people bothered to look at Kush's link on his handle name, you'll see a photo that shows that he is indeed on the lighter side, as desis go. So why are people giving him a hard time for his comment?</i></p> <p>Ok, I am the one who wrote 'Nigga please!'. Good Lord! This was a joke. For those who dont watch Chappel, here you <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/funny/video/xej3h_dave-chappellesnigga-please-cereal?from=rss">go</a>. I have known Kush long enough on SM to know that he is not like the nasty color obsessed aunties. I was kidding with him!</p> Hehe. Thats exactly the way to deal with desis, including the stupid, nasty color-obsessed aunties, who try to distance themselves from the desi stereotype.

If you people bothered to look at Kush’s link on his handle name, you’ll see a photo that shows that he is indeed on the lighter side, as desis go. So why are people giving him a hard time for his comment?

Ok, I am the one who wrote ‘Nigga please!’. Good Lord! This was a joke. For those who dont watch Chappel, here you go. I have known Kush long enough on SM to know that he is not like the nasty color obsessed aunties. I was kidding with him!

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