Comments on: Travelers: Beaches of Bangladesh, Chatting on Indian Trains… http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ahamed http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-237592 ahamed Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:41:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-237592 <p>hi, I found a new site www.indiantrains.org. Its very interesting and easy to book the ticket availablity.</p> hi, I found a new site http://www.indiantrains.org. Its very interesting and easy to book the ticket availablity.

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By: qualified_trash http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-109118 qualified_trash Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:13:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-109118 <p>Kalka-Shimla by rail car. stop on the way for breakfast. someone in an earlier post mentioned that the name of the station was barog. I agree about the omelettes though. awesome!! and this was in 1991 I think.........</p> <p>On that trip, I was in the upper berth of the 2nd AC where the berth opposite mine, was occupied by a non-Indian. I used to have this air pillow that I hated. pulled the plug out and the hissing noise was enough to scare the poor lady. had to fight hard to keep myself from laughing out loud.</p> <p>craziest experience!! traveling on the Bokaro-Steel City express. old man (75+) tried to get off the train as it was pulling into the platform, misjudged the height of the platform and lost his leg...... I was much younger when I saw that happen. Could never sleep on trains before that and have never slept after that either......</p> Kalka-Shimla by rail car. stop on the way for breakfast. someone in an earlier post mentioned that the name of the station was barog. I agree about the omelettes though. awesome!! and this was in 1991 I think………

On that trip, I was in the upper berth of the 2nd AC where the berth opposite mine, was occupied by a non-Indian. I used to have this air pillow that I hated. pulled the plug out and the hissing noise was enough to scare the poor lady. had to fight hard to keep myself from laughing out loud.

craziest experience!! traveling on the Bokaro-Steel City express. old man (75+) tried to get off the train as it was pulling into the platform, misjudged the height of the platform and lost his leg…… I was much younger when I saw that happen. Could never sleep on trains before that and have never slept after that either……

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By: Pagla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-108913 Pagla Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:10:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-108913 <blockquote>I really enjoy the juxtaposition of the classes in the Bombay local trains. The price difference for a ticket from Bandra to King's Circle is virtually unaffordable for the average Bombay-ite. Five rupees in second class versus Rs. 70+ (my memory is fuzzy) first class. Most second class riders will say, "in first class, you are being pushed in the same way by more expensive elbows. Tch tch what a waste." I agree. Plus, there are way more interesting things that happen in the 2nd class compartments.</blockquote> <p>I would take the 2nd class in Bombay local trains over 1st class anyday. I used travelled from Andheri to Thane almost everyday (yes, I took the Western line all the way upto Dadar and Central down to Thane). Initially, I bought a 1st class pass, but then I switched to 2nd class in a month. Passengers in 1st class have a bigger sense of entitlement, and they demand personal space more than 2nd class passengers. 2nd class passengers have a sense of camraderie. 1st class passengers will shout at you if you invade their space. 2nd class passengers will try to make space for you. It was much more difficult for me to get into a 1st class compartment because everyone needs elbow room. I had to take the train that starts from Andheri/Dadar if I wanted to get into a 1st class compartment, whereas in a 2nd class I could squeeze in or atleast get space to hang out of the door. It needs getting used to, but the 2nd class compartment is way better than 1st class even if you can afford the 1st class ticket. Actually, for a month or so, I was travelling 2nd class with my 1st class pass</p> <p>Speaking of interesting, I had one horrible experience of having my ass grabbed near Mahim in a 2nd class compartment. I bet I was bound to run into a gay perv sooner or later. Once, I was next to 2 guys who were hanging out of the door, wearing clip-on earrings and talking to each other with an effeminate lilt in their speech. As soon as the train arived at the station, they would take of the earrings, switch to masculine voice, get off the train, let everyone climb back on and then get back on. As soon as the train left the station, the earrings and the voice would come back on. It was truly bizzare.</p> I really enjoy the juxtaposition of the classes in the Bombay local trains. The price difference for a ticket from Bandra to King’s Circle is virtually unaffordable for the average Bombay-ite. Five rupees in second class versus Rs. 70+ (my memory is fuzzy) first class. Most second class riders will say, “in first class, you are being pushed in the same way by more expensive elbows. Tch tch what a waste.” I agree. Plus, there are way more interesting things that happen in the 2nd class compartments.

I would take the 2nd class in Bombay local trains over 1st class anyday. I used travelled from Andheri to Thane almost everyday (yes, I took the Western line all the way upto Dadar and Central down to Thane). Initially, I bought a 1st class pass, but then I switched to 2nd class in a month. Passengers in 1st class have a bigger sense of entitlement, and they demand personal space more than 2nd class passengers. 2nd class passengers have a sense of camraderie. 1st class passengers will shout at you if you invade their space. 2nd class passengers will try to make space for you. It was much more difficult for me to get into a 1st class compartment because everyone needs elbow room. I had to take the train that starts from Andheri/Dadar if I wanted to get into a 1st class compartment, whereas in a 2nd class I could squeeze in or atleast get space to hang out of the door. It needs getting used to, but the 2nd class compartment is way better than 1st class even if you can afford the 1st class ticket. Actually, for a month or so, I was travelling 2nd class with my 1st class pass

Speaking of interesting, I had one horrible experience of having my ass grabbed near Mahim in a 2nd class compartment. I bet I was bound to run into a gay perv sooner or later. Once, I was next to 2 guys who were hanging out of the door, wearing clip-on earrings and talking to each other with an effeminate lilt in their speech. As soon as the train arived at the station, they would take of the earrings, switch to masculine voice, get off the train, let everyone climb back on and then get back on. As soon as the train left the station, the earrings and the voice would come back on. It was truly bizzare.

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By: risible http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-108902 risible Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:13:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-108902 <p>I took one train journey from Delhi to Nasik (Maharashtra) to obtain <i>darsan</i> at the tomb of Shirdi Sai Baba. I went with an uncle AC second class - the rationale being that there were no first class sleepers and this was a very long journey. It was an interesting experience: chatting with hospitable clerks who shared their roti-sabzi and revealed black and white photos of their kiddies; sleeping in the top bunker and worrying that my head would crash into the ceiling; reading bawdy little joke books by Kushwant Singh late into the night; having piping hot tea and fresh fruits at the many stops; getting tipsy from swigs of whiskey brought along in my portable flask; making eyes at pretty girls; singing bhajans...great way for an ABD to learn a little about India. Though I can speak Hindi semi-fluently, I was constantly singled out as a firangi; there is no escaping that, even if one prances about in a lungi.</p> I took one train journey from Delhi to Nasik (Maharashtra) to obtain darsan at the tomb of Shirdi Sai Baba. I went with an uncle AC second class – the rationale being that there were no first class sleepers and this was a very long journey. It was an interesting experience: chatting with hospitable clerks who shared their roti-sabzi and revealed black and white photos of their kiddies; sleeping in the top bunker and worrying that my head would crash into the ceiling; reading bawdy little joke books by Kushwant Singh late into the night; having piping hot tea and fresh fruits at the many stops; getting tipsy from swigs of whiskey brought along in my portable flask; making eyes at pretty girls; singing bhajans…great way for an ABD to learn a little about India. Though I can speak Hindi semi-fluently, I was constantly singled out as a firangi; there is no escaping that, even if one prances about in a lungi.

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By: Meenakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-108901 Meenakshi Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:39:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-108901 <p>I had a fabulous experience riding the Mumbai locals for the two years that I lived in Mumbai. Here is an excerpt from my blog, which is linked to my name above.</p> <p>I really enjoy the juxtaposition of the classes in the Bombay local trains. The price difference for a ticket from Bandra to King's Circle is virtually unaffordable for the average Bombay-ite. Five rupees in second class versus Rs. 70+ (my memory is fuzzy) first class. Most second class riders will say, "in first class, you are being pushed in the same way by more expensive elbows. Tch tch what a waste." I agree. Plus, there are way more interesting things that happen in the 2nd class compartments.</p> <p>The biggest thing I learned from riding the trains was the evolution of progress. When I arrived in Bombay in July 04, beyond track 7 of Bandra Station (Harbour Line going to VT) I saw a family that had perhaps just arrived in Bombay. Their shelter consisted of a tent made of plastic and cloth, precariously supported by wooden poles, unevenly. By the time I left in March 06, the same family had turned the tent into a square shed like structure, with 4 walls and a roof. I am sure they still don't have access to running water, health care, or a toilet and are probably living on land that is not legally theirs; but in the struggle for roti, capra, aur makan, possessing one of them is certainly a start.</p> I had a fabulous experience riding the Mumbai locals for the two years that I lived in Mumbai. Here is an excerpt from my blog, which is linked to my name above.

I really enjoy the juxtaposition of the classes in the Bombay local trains. The price difference for a ticket from Bandra to King’s Circle is virtually unaffordable for the average Bombay-ite. Five rupees in second class versus Rs. 70+ (my memory is fuzzy) first class. Most second class riders will say, “in first class, you are being pushed in the same way by more expensive elbows. Tch tch what a waste.” I agree. Plus, there are way more interesting things that happen in the 2nd class compartments.

The biggest thing I learned from riding the trains was the evolution of progress. When I arrived in Bombay in July 04, beyond track 7 of Bandra Station (Harbour Line going to VT) I saw a family that had perhaps just arrived in Bombay. Their shelter consisted of a tent made of plastic and cloth, precariously supported by wooden poles, unevenly. By the time I left in March 06, the same family had turned the tent into a square shed like structure, with 4 walls and a roof. I am sure they still don’t have access to running water, health care, or a toilet and are probably living on land that is not legally theirs; but in the struggle for roti, capra, aur makan, possessing one of them is certainly a start.

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By: Beth http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-108884 Beth Wed, 27 Dec 2006 06:09:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-108884 <p>I've only been on two train trips in India but I loved them both. Delhi-Amritsar highlight: the nonstop snacks, including jam and whitey white bread. Overnight Kolkata-Varanasi: sleeper cars with a paper packet of sheets and blanket and the flip-down bunks and privacy curains - like <i>Some Like It Hot</i> in all the right ways.</p> I’ve only been on two train trips in India but I loved them both. Delhi-Amritsar highlight: the nonstop snacks, including jam and whitey white bread. Overnight Kolkata-Varanasi: sleeper cars with a paper packet of sheets and blanket and the flip-down bunks and privacy curains – like Some Like It Hot in all the right ways.

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-108870 Kush Tandon Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:52:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-108870 <p><i>had no clue how to go about buying tickets or about the different 'class' compartments, how to actually get a seat, etc</i></p> <p>In past, you had stand in @ a station booth or use a middle man to buy tickets. <a href="http://www.indianrail.gov.in/">Now, they do have a website</a>, and you get an e-ticket, or delivered through a courier. They accept Indian credit cards online too. You can have your online account, but six months ago, it only accepted Indian debit and credit cards.</p> <p>We all have travelled standing near the toilet, I think it is inescaple if a part of your jouney, one has not booked tickets in well in advance.</p> <p>Two-three weeks ago, my brother travelled in executive class. He told me only Indians in his coach were politicians. I guess it is quite expensive.</p> had no clue how to go about buying tickets or about the different ‘class’ compartments, how to actually get a seat, etc

In past, you had stand in @ a station booth or use a middle man to buy tickets. Now, they do have a website, and you get an e-ticket, or delivered through a courier. They accept Indian credit cards online too. You can have your online account, but six months ago, it only accepted Indian debit and credit cards.

We all have travelled standing near the toilet, I think it is inescaple if a part of your jouney, one has not booked tickets in well in advance.

Two-three weeks ago, my brother travelled in executive class. He told me only Indians in his coach were politicians. I guess it is quite expensive.

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By: Amitabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-108869 Amitabh Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:42:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-108869 <blockquote>So, I spent the whole journey standing near the toilet. </blockquote> <p>Been there. It was my worst ever train experience in India. Back in the early 90s, I was 19, and my 21 year old cousin and I were travelling around India that summer. Both of us ABDs who, although we could speak Hindi, had no clue how to go about buying tickets or about the different 'class' compartments, how to actually get a seat, etc. So I think we were somewhere in Maharashtra, en route from Ajanta/Ellora back to Mumbai where my bua lived. We had to change trains at some tiny town somewhere in rural Maharashtra (Satna?)...when we got off at that station, we ended up spending ELEVEN hours waiting for the Mumbai train...all that time without food or water. We even left the station and went looking for restaurants or dhabas (again, this was a TINY town in the early 90s). For some reason, the 2 or 3 places we tried had all RUN OUT OF FOOD. In the main bazaar, there weren't even fruits for sale...nothing. The station itself didn't have a store or a stand selling any snacks or water. So anyway, the train finally rolled in, and we ended up in the 3rd class compartment, full of Bihari laborers en route to Mumbai as well. I literally had to stand near this bathroom (that got progressively more disgusting every 15 minutes) for the WHOLE ride. And the Bihari passengers, most of whom were young, rural guys, gave us the distinct impression that if we looked at them the wrong way, they would all jump us at once. That didn't make things any more pleasant. After all that, we got caught in a 3 hour traffic jam in Mumbai, from the station to my bua's house. The shower I took, and the food/water I consumed late that night at her home probably rank as some of the best experiences in my life.</p> So, I spent the whole journey standing near the toilet.

Been there. It was my worst ever train experience in India. Back in the early 90s, I was 19, and my 21 year old cousin and I were travelling around India that summer. Both of us ABDs who, although we could speak Hindi, had no clue how to go about buying tickets or about the different ‘class’ compartments, how to actually get a seat, etc. So I think we were somewhere in Maharashtra, en route from Ajanta/Ellora back to Mumbai where my bua lived. We had to change trains at some tiny town somewhere in rural Maharashtra (Satna?)…when we got off at that station, we ended up spending ELEVEN hours waiting for the Mumbai train…all that time without food or water. We even left the station and went looking for restaurants or dhabas (again, this was a TINY town in the early 90s). For some reason, the 2 or 3 places we tried had all RUN OUT OF FOOD. In the main bazaar, there weren’t even fruits for sale…nothing. The station itself didn’t have a store or a stand selling any snacks or water. So anyway, the train finally rolled in, and we ended up in the 3rd class compartment, full of Bihari laborers en route to Mumbai as well. I literally had to stand near this bathroom (that got progressively more disgusting every 15 minutes) for the WHOLE ride. And the Bihari passengers, most of whom were young, rural guys, gave us the distinct impression that if we looked at them the wrong way, they would all jump us at once. That didn’t make things any more pleasant. After all that, we got caught in a 3 hour traffic jam in Mumbai, from the station to my bua’s house. The shower I took, and the food/water I consumed late that night at her home probably rank as some of the best experiences in my life.

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By: Pagla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-108855 Pagla Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:53:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-108855 <p>One train story:-</p> <p>I had to get from Hyderabad to Bombay very urgently. Apparently (and I didn't know this at the time), when you buy a ticket for a station, it gives you the right to board the train. It doesn't guarantee you a seat on the train. If you want to reserve a seat, you have to buy the reservation seperately. So, after I bought the ticket, the guy tells me that there are no seats available on the train. I had to get to Bombay on that train, and other people told me that I can <em>nudge nudge wink wink</em> buy a priority seat from the conductor. Well, I got into the train, and the train was packed. People were sleeping on the floor. I couldn't get to <em>nudge nudge wink wink</em> the conductor, because apparently he had been <em>nudge nudge wink winked</em> enough that I couldn't find him. So, I spent the whole journey standing near the toilet. In the morning, some nice person let me sit on the "extra seat", the one where your one ass is on the seat and the other ass is hanging out, and I fell asleep on it.</p> <p>Hopefully, I didn't drool on the guy</p> One train story:-

I had to get from Hyderabad to Bombay very urgently. Apparently (and I didn’t know this at the time), when you buy a ticket for a station, it gives you the right to board the train. It doesn’t guarantee you a seat on the train. If you want to reserve a seat, you have to buy the reservation seperately. So, after I bought the ticket, the guy tells me that there are no seats available on the train. I had to get to Bombay on that train, and other people told me that I can nudge nudge wink wink buy a priority seat from the conductor. Well, I got into the train, and the train was packed. People were sleeping on the floor. I couldn’t get to nudge nudge wink wink the conductor, because apparently he had been nudge nudge wink winked enough that I couldn’t find him. So, I spent the whole journey standing near the toilet. In the morning, some nice person let me sit on the “extra seat”, the one where your one ass is on the seat and the other ass is hanging out, and I fell asleep on it.

Hopefully, I didn’t drool on the guy

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By: chakding http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/24/travelers_beach/comment-page-1/#comment-108812 chakding Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:12:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4044#comment-108812 <blockquote>one boy came up to me, "your father, he was a gardener right? right?" me: "ehhh?" him: "because you are such a beautiful flower..."</blockquote> <p>Priceless!! I have to remember that line.</p> one boy came up to me, “your father, he was a gardener right? right?” me: “ehhh?” him: “because you are such a beautiful flower…”

Priceless!! I have to remember that line.

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