Comments on: Macaca Music Poll: The Time Is NOW http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-2/#comment-108609 HMF Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:58:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108609 <p>"As far as I am concerned it is nothing of the sort. Are you threatened by a floating signifier?"</p> <p>How can you trivialize it to being a "floating signifier" when the context of origin was racially dehumanizing? Like I said before, its usage can continue, but to me its more of an exercise in futility and silliness rather than an irritation or threat.</p> “As far as I am concerned it is nothing of the sort. Are you threatened by a floating signifier?”

How can you trivialize it to being a “floating signifier” when the context of origin was racially dehumanizing? Like I said before, its usage can continue, but to me its more of an exercise in futility and silliness rather than an irritation or threat.

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By: Kurma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-2/#comment-108601 Kurma Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:29:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108601 <p>hairy_d, I cherish my car minutes too, for the same reason.</p> <blockquote>so.. there you go - as i said - music is not a reflection of taste, but a reflection of one's life - and there is no reason it should fit the top 40's - but to have a life is to have a preference - and thusly you got to be in the game .</blockquote> <p>It doesn't get any more convincing than this. I've sent Siddhartha a small list. He'll probably throw them out for being outdated anyway :). Tumhe bhi Baba din (Christmas) mubarak.</p> hairy_d, I cherish my car minutes too, for the same reason.

so.. there you go – as i said – music is not a reflection of taste, but a reflection of one’s life – and there is no reason it should fit the top 40′s – but to have a life is to have a preference – and thusly you got to be in the game .

It doesn’t get any more convincing than this. I’ve sent Siddhartha a small list. He’ll probably throw them out for being outdated anyway :) . Tumhe bhi Baba din (Christmas) mubarak.

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By: Kurma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-2/#comment-108568 Kurma Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:09:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108568 <blockquote>I have Hindi Writer </blockquote> <p>Thanks, Shruti.</p> <p><a href="http://www.quillpad.com/hindi/">http://www.quillpad.com/hindi/</a> Try this out, people. A friend of mine developed it. They have 12 or so other Indian languages too. Seems to work very well, although it is Windows specific, I think. On a Mac, it's working great with the Safari browser for me for Hindi. Not so great with Firefox (I haven't set up fonts yet).</p> I have Hindi Writer

Thanks, Shruti.

http://www.quillpad.com/hindi/ Try this out, people. A friend of mine developed it. They have 12 or so other Indian languages too. Seems to work very well, although it is Windows specific, I think. On a Mac, it’s working great with the Safari browser for me for Hindi. Not so great with Firefox (I haven’t set up fonts yet).

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By: SemiDesiMasala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-2/#comment-108562 SemiDesiMasala Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:34:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108562 <p>I think that Gnarles Barkley's "Crazy" was an awesome song for this year. The following lyrics really got to me:</p> <p>"My heroes have the heart to live the lives I want to live. And all I remember is thinking I want to be like them"</p> <p>This is a cool anthem. It would be nice to see it included. Incidentally, I am getting some really good tips from the comments.</p> I think that Gnarles Barkley’s “Crazy” was an awesome song for this year. The following lyrics really got to me:

“My heroes have the heart to live the lives I want to live. And all I remember is thinking I want to be like them”

This is a cool anthem. It would be nice to see it included. Incidentally, I am getting some really good tips from the comments.

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By: bookburner http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-2/#comment-108561 bookburner Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:19:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108561 <p>another sepiamutiny macaca circle jerk, how predictable for these chutiyas</p> another sepiamutiny macaca circle jerk, how predictable for these chutiyas

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By: tamasha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-1/#comment-108560 tamasha Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:03:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108560 <blockquote>I, for one, hope we don't have to see Desi rap acts like M.W.A, talkin about "Straight outta Iselin"</blockquote> <p>I agree. It should be <i>Straight Outta Edison</i>. Duh.</p> <blockquote><blockquote>Sorry, by "new" I meant "new and REAL" - Bootylicious and Fergalicious are not real words. </blockquote>Are you sure? I mean, can't you be tamalicious, also? ;)</blockquote> <p>Awesome.</p> I, for one, hope we don’t have to see Desi rap acts like M.W.A, talkin about “Straight outta Iselin”

I agree. It should be Straight Outta Edison. Duh.

Sorry, by “new” I meant “new and REAL” – Bootylicious and Fergalicious are not real words.
Are you sure? I mean, can’t you be tamalicious, also? ;)

Awesome.

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By: Camille http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-1/#comment-108559 Camille Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:56:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108559 <blockquote>Sorry, by "new" I meant "new and REAL" - Bootylicious and Fergalicious are not real words. </blockquote> <p>Are you sure? I mean, can't you be tamalicious, also? ;)</p> <p>I also think macaca is stupid. Sorry Siddhartha :)</p> Sorry, by “new” I meant “new and REAL” – Bootylicious and Fergalicious are not real words.

Are you sure? I mean, can’t you be tamalicious, also? ;)

I also think macaca is stupid. Sorry Siddhartha :)

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By: siddhartha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-1/#comment-108552 siddhartha Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:33:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108552 <blockquote>It's not that it's irritating, it's futile. It's an attempt to do what black folks have done or are trying to do by internalizing the N-word.</blockquote> <p>As far as I am concerned it is nothing of the sort. Are you threatened by a floating signifier?</p> It’s not that it’s irritating, it’s futile. It’s an attempt to do what black folks have done or are trying to do by internalizing the N-word.

As far as I am concerned it is nothing of the sort. Are you threatened by a floating signifier?

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By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-1/#comment-108547 HMF Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:09:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108547 <p>"Can we please quit using macaca? Please? It's quite irritating."</p> <p>It's not that it's irritating, it's futile. It's an attempt to do what black folks have done or are trying to do by internalizing the N-word. Black folks realize no matter how many times they put it on records and hip hop videos, Kramers around the world can in in an instant recall the original usage and intent of the word - to dehumanize.</p> <p>I'm not saying rappers should cease using the word in records, thats a dialogue that should occur within the black community alone.</p> <p>But for us to attempt a similar path of action, is silly for two reasons:</p> <ol> <li><p>Macaca as a word against Indians was chosen arbitrarily. It came out of the subconscious of a politicians mother that lived in North Africa. If S.R. Sidarth was Hispanic, or Eskimo, or African, or any OTHER shade of "brown" they'd have the same word levy'd against them.</p></li> <li><p>It was one guy who said it. Kramers re-use of the N word triggered a collective white history. In the US, we simply don't have that history, it's silly to try and co-opt it.</p></li> </ol> <p>I, for one, hope we don't have to see Desi rap acts like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niggaz_With_Attitude">M.W.A</a>, talkin about "Straight outta Iselin"</p> “Can we please quit using macaca? Please? It’s quite irritating.”

It’s not that it’s irritating, it’s futile. It’s an attempt to do what black folks have done or are trying to do by internalizing the N-word. Black folks realize no matter how many times they put it on records and hip hop videos, Kramers around the world can in in an instant recall the original usage and intent of the word – to dehumanize.

I’m not saying rappers should cease using the word in records, thats a dialogue that should occur within the black community alone.

But for us to attempt a similar path of action, is silly for two reasons:

  1. Macaca as a word against Indians was chosen arbitrarily. It came out of the subconscious of a politicians mother that lived in North Africa. If S.R. Sidarth was Hispanic, or Eskimo, or African, or any OTHER shade of “brown” they’d have the same word levy’d against them.

  2. It was one guy who said it. Kramers re-use of the N word triggered a collective white history. In the US, we simply don’t have that history, it’s silly to try and co-opt it.

I, for one, hope we don’t have to see Desi rap acts like M.W.A, talkin about “Straight outta Iselin”

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By: hairy_d http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/20/macaca_music_po/comment-page-1/#comment-108533 hairy_d Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:20:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4040#comment-108533 <blockquote>So, I guess my song is Aajaa meri gaadi mein baith ja :-) My reason for not submitting had nothing to do with shyness or the other reason I mentioned in the "doodh ka doodh" comment ...</blockquote> <p>i am like that as well. the only music i listen to is freebie stuff that's playing on cbc when i'm driving or stuff i come across youtube. for the life of me i cant remember most of the stuff i hear on cbc... because i dont hear the same stuff twice again ... but some stuff sticks and i try to hear it again - for example, i was hearing this program about the montreal music scene and arcade fire came on and i went whoa!!! and that was my intro to those guys... etc. some other stuff is actually 2006, but the shitty life i lead - driving is my relief - i treasure these little moments of peace ... then youtube... i'll probably one of the handful who recommmends filmi tunes, but hey - those are delishus bonbons - i dont know if it's the emoting or the music that gets me - but to paraphrase the 'holic - filmi masala is bilkul yummy yaar.</p> <p>so.. there you go - as i said - music is not a reflection of taste, but a reflection of one's life - and there is no reason it should fit the top 40's - but to have a life is to have a preference - and thusly you got to be in the game .</p> <p>ok machang - the loser that i am, i got to go out and mail 40 christmas cards today. my bad. ek meri taraf sey tumhen bhi (and one from me to you).</p> So, I guess my song is Aajaa meri gaadi mein baith ja :-) My reason for not submitting had nothing to do with shyness or the other reason I mentioned in the “doodh ka doodh” comment …

i am like that as well. the only music i listen to is freebie stuff that’s playing on cbc when i’m driving or stuff i come across youtube. for the life of me i cant remember most of the stuff i hear on cbc… because i dont hear the same stuff twice again … but some stuff sticks and i try to hear it again – for example, i was hearing this program about the montreal music scene and arcade fire came on and i went whoa!!! and that was my intro to those guys… etc. some other stuff is actually 2006, but the shitty life i lead – driving is my relief – i treasure these little moments of peace … then youtube… i’ll probably one of the handful who recommmends filmi tunes, but hey – those are delishus bonbons – i dont know if it’s the emoting or the music that gets me – but to paraphrase the ‘holic – filmi masala is bilkul yummy yaar.

so.. there you go – as i said – music is not a reflection of taste, but a reflection of one’s life – and there is no reason it should fit the top 40′s – but to have a life is to have a preference – and thusly you got to be in the game .

ok machang – the loser that i am, i got to go out and mail 40 christmas cards today. my bad. ek meri taraf sey tumhen bhi (and one from me to you).

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