Comments on: Wide Eyed http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: chitrana http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106921 chitrana Thu, 14 Dec 2006 05:09:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106921 <blockquote>Re: Irani vs. Iranian, I was under the impression from most of my Iran-born Farsi friends that "Iranian" is very much a foreign construct, one that they find annoying. Hence the "Irani not Iranian"; one of them likened it to someone being called Pakistani vs. Pakistanian, or Iraqi and Iraqian. Dehlavi is not, to the best of my knowledge either Parsi or Farsi, but he's definitely Pakistani; I don't know a great deal more about him.</blockquote> <p>Most of the Iranians I know prefer to Persian to Iranian, especially those who aren't muslim.</p> Re: Irani vs. Iranian, I was under the impression from most of my Iran-born Farsi friends that “Iranian” is very much a foreign construct, one that they find annoying. Hence the “Irani not Iranian”; one of them likened it to someone being called Pakistani vs. Pakistanian, or Iraqi and Iraqian. Dehlavi is not, to the best of my knowledge either Parsi or Farsi, but he’s definitely Pakistani; I don’t know a great deal more about him.

Most of the Iranians I know prefer to Persian to Iranian, especially those who aren’t muslim.

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By: SA http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106906 SA Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:49:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106906 <blockquote>Dehlavi is not, to the best of my knowledge either Parsi or Farsi, but he's definitely Pakistani; I don't know a great deal more about him.</blockquote> <p>The name itself is Persian/Farsi. This was a common surname for poets from Delhi in the Mughal court.</p> Dehlavi is not, to the best of my knowledge either Parsi or Farsi, but he’s definitely Pakistani; I don’t know a great deal more about him.

The name itself is Persian/Farsi. This was a common surname for poets from Delhi in the Mughal court.

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By: SA http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106905 SA Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:45:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106905 <p>I'm from Delhi, maybe I should change by last name to Dehlavi. Sounds really cool.</p> <p>^ Actually, Bush went the other way and used the pejorative term for 'Pakistani'. Though, he would have been right if Pakistan was a real '-stan'. I guess Indi or Indiani doesn't work because the word 'India' is an English word(?). Bharati and Hindustani on the other hand work because Bharat and Hindustan are proper words in local languages.</p> I’m from Delhi, maybe I should change by last name to Dehlavi. Sounds really cool.

^ Actually, Bush went the other way and used the pejorative term for ‘Pakistani’. Though, he would have been right if Pakistan was a real ‘-stan’. I guess Indi or Indiani doesn’t work because the word ‘India’ is an English word(?). Bharati and Hindustani on the other hand work because Bharat and Hindustan are proper words in local languages.

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By: Suraj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106862 Suraj Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:40:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106862 <blockquote> one of them likened it to someone being called Pakistani vs. <b>Pakistanian</b></blockquote> <p><b>Sin</b>..Pakistanian??...damn, I wonder how Bush missed it for the last 6 yrs. It would have ranked up there with Strategry, Nooclear...etc. And of course, Pakistanian would be ridiculous :)</p> <p>Any idea what determines, "anian" vs "ani"? Also why not Indiani or Lankani or Burmanian?</p> one of them likened it to someone being called Pakistani vs. Pakistanian

Sin..Pakistanian??…damn, I wonder how Bush missed it for the last 6 yrs. It would have ranked up there with Strategry, Nooclear…etc. And of course, Pakistanian would be ridiculous :)

Any idea what determines, “anian” vs “ani”? Also why not Indiani or Lankani or Burmanian?

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By: Sin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106694 Sin Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:06:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106694 <p>Oh Dennis. You'll figure it out. Eventually, I'm sure. [Hint, think REALLY hard. You can do it!]</p> <p>Re: Irani vs. Iranian, I was under the impression from most of my Iran-born Farsi friends that "Iranian" is very much a foreign construct, one that they find annoying. Hence the "Irani not Iranian"; one of them likened it to someone being called Pakistani vs. Pakistanian, or Iraqi and Iraqian. Dehlavi is not, to the best of my knowledge either Parsi or Farsi, but he's definitely Pakistani; I don't know a great deal more about him.</p> Oh Dennis. You’ll figure it out. Eventually, I’m sure. [Hint, think REALLY hard. You can do it!]

Re: Irani vs. Iranian, I was under the impression from most of my Iran-born Farsi friends that “Iranian” is very much a foreign construct, one that they find annoying. Hence the “Irani not Iranian”; one of them likened it to someone being called Pakistani vs. Pakistanian, or Iraqi and Iraqian. Dehlavi is not, to the best of my knowledge either Parsi or Farsi, but he’s definitely Pakistani; I don’t know a great deal more about him.

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By: DennisTM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106686 DennisTM Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:37:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106686 <p>So tell me... is this related to Sepia Mutiny? If yes, how?</p> So tell me… is this related to Sepia Mutiny? If yes, how?

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By: Hashim http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106665 Hashim Wed, 13 Dec 2006 04:42:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106665 <blockquote>the works of Irani (not Iranian, thank goodness) director Jafar Panahi and Pakistani dircteor Jamil Dehlavi</blockquote> <p>Sorry, I also do not understand the distinction. I always thought the term Irani was used for Parsis in India, whereas Iranian was used for, well, Iranians (and yes, I know that Parsis originate in Iran, but I'm not talking about origins, I'm talking about current community self-identification). Panahi seems to be the latter. I'm not sure if Dehlavi fits into either. Maybe I'm wrong and/or you're joking. Who knows. Either way, edify me!</p> the works of Irani (not Iranian, thank goodness) director Jafar Panahi and Pakistani dircteor Jamil Dehlavi

Sorry, I also do not understand the distinction. I always thought the term Irani was used for Parsis in India, whereas Iranian was used for, well, Iranians (and yes, I know that Parsis originate in Iran, but I’m not talking about origins, I’m talking about current community self-identification). Panahi seems to be the latter. I’m not sure if Dehlavi fits into either. Maybe I’m wrong and/or you’re joking. Who knows. Either way, edify me!

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By: Shahnaz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106600 Shahnaz Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:46:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106600 <p>"...the works of Irani (not Iranian, thank goodness)"</p> <p>Can you explain? I didn't realize one was preferred over the other.</p> “…the works of Irani (not Iranian, thank goodness)”

Can you explain? I didn’t realize one was preferred over the other.

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By: Sin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106566 Sin Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:39:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106566 <p>Oh sorry. Yes, he's definitely doing the voice-over. The "not really" was regarding the "eeee!", since I seem to be one of the few people on this planet who don't have a raging crush on him.</p> Oh sorry. Yes, he’s definitely doing the voice-over. The “not really” was regarding the “eeee!”, since I seem to be one of the few people on this planet who don’t have a raging crush on him.

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By: TigerYogi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/12/12/wide_eyed/comment-page-1/#comment-106562 TigerYogi Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:32:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4022#comment-106562 <p>"for example showing movies like The Incredibles dubbed in Hindi/Urdu (the voices are by Sharukh Khan, no less! Eeeee! Not really.)"</p> <p>Sin, are you absolutely sure about that? I was watching SRK's auto-biographical documentary recently (The Inner and Outer Worlds of SRK) and there was a scene where he WAS doing a voice-over for The Incredibles!!</p> “for example showing movies like The Incredibles dubbed in Hindi/Urdu (the voices are by Sharukh Khan, no less! Eeeee! Not really.)”

Sin, are you absolutely sure about that? I was watching SRK’s auto-biographical documentary recently (The Inner and Outer Worlds of SRK) and there was a scene where he WAS doing a voice-over for The Incredibles!!

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