kritic- You just accused me of never having read the Qur’an and/or misinterpreting it. Furthermore you just denounced the entire religion. You think this doesn’t offend me? Wow.

I’m peacin out of this post.

“That’s because while Islam may have been founded on peaceful principles,”

If you say that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are peace loving people, I couldn’t agree more. But, If you claim that Islam was founded on peaceful principles, then, either you have never read the Quran, or,have failed to grasp its message, which reeeks of violence and vengeance. Not to mention, misogyny and idiocy.

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At Reagan National this week, Rabbis joined the Muslims at the prayer protest – though one imagines they did not share this prayer from the Hadith: “And the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: `O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!”‘ In fairness, they usually save that one for the high holidays, like the “Festival of the Six Dead Jews” or “Honor Killing Week.”

She’s not making this up.. From translation of Sahih Muslim book 41

Book 041, Number 6981: Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me) ; kill him. ——————————————————————————– Book 041, Number 6982: Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):” There is a Jew behind me.” ——————————————————————————– Book 041, Number 6983: Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him. ——————————————————————————– Book 041, Number 6984: Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him. ——————————————————————————– Book 041, Number 6985: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

I like the last one better. Looks like Mohammad has marked one type of tree as a Jewish supporter and the rest of the “trees” are for jihad..

If I didn’t, it would be because I was affected by the pack mentality of fear, and I would recognize that. If we need to accept the need for vigilante profiling by those traveling on the average US flight in order to be safe, then being safe is just not worth it. My safety is not worth violating someone else’s civil liberties. I’m fine with baggage searches, questioning by airport staff, taking my shoes off, and squeezing my conditioner into dinky little bottles in the name of safety. I’ll jump through any hoops the FAA wants me to if it’s required by law. I’m not fine with the other passengers on a plane getting to decide if I’m okay to fly or not.

Hmm…I don’t know…I speak Hindi fluently, Telugu just barely, and Malayalam not at all, yet I identify as South Indian/Telugu/Malyali more than I identify with Hindi as being “my” language. It’s a complicated and fascinating issue but totally off topic so I hate to threadjack by continuing this discussion so I promise to refrain from any further comment.

Yes please do. Especially examples where they attacked people while saying things like they wanted to “Punish the Goyim”

An interesting quote from Omar Shahin, one of ejected imams, from 2001:

Shahin of the Tucson Islamic Center said more than 1,200 Muslims died in the World Trade Center catastrophe, and no genuine member of Islam would do such a thing. Nor, he added, would Muslims have gone to strip joints prior to the attack, as several of the terrorists in Florida reportedly did. As for Al-Qaeda nests in America, Shahin said, “All of these, they make it up.” link

Sharp as a razor, that Shahin.

lol, but what does your mind say?

but if you’re alluding to America’s founding principles

No! I am talking about the principles which have brought this country its greatness and success. Equality (to the extent that it can be guaranteed, opportunity (to seek happiness, money, etc.), and rule of law (that there is a good consensus to its fairness and effectiveness in its enforcement)

How? By feeding into the media attention that they garner? By “sympathizing” with them, as MoorNam has suggested? What exactly is the basis of your argument?

No yo! by our short-sighted foreign policy! By continuing to support the American way of consuming too many resources despite the visible ill-effects of the same.

With all my heart.

Isn’t America supposed to be about equality, opportunity and rule of law? It is a country based on the rule of law not fear, and certainly not based on a rule according to whims of the authority figures.

I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying – but if you’re alluding to America’s founding principles, then I will have to say that we cannot fault the original fathers for not being able to look forward enough into the future to predict certain perversions of the Constitution by current figures of authority.

In the fight against the extremists we are becoming part them. In the meantime we continue to do that which feeds the extremism.

How? By feeding into the media attention that they garner? By “sympathizing” with them, as MoorNam has suggested? What exactly is the basis of your argument?