Comments on: AALDEF’s exit polling efforts part II http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tushar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100837 tushar Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:43:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100837 <blockquote>I'm curious if anyone knows the background behind the actual polling. Do these people just stand outside the polls and wait for their "target group" (perhaps a bad choice of words when dealing with S. Asians...) to emerge and then pounce on them with questions? Do they have to have preapproval from the state election commissions of their respective states and have some form of ID? Are the other officials running each precincts usually cool with these folks hanging around? The reason I ask is whenever I've voted in person (3x versus the rest absentee), I've never seen anyone outside (or even inside, for that matter) look like they are pollsters, etc., i.e., non-precinct volunteers. </blockquote> <p>No Desh: I can answer that, if anyone's still reading this thread.</p> <p>I volunteered with AALDEF to exit-poll in NYC (specifically in Kensington, Brooklyn, where there are Pakistanis, Banglas, and Chinese folk).</p> <p>And the method is exactly as you described it: we stood outside the polling place (in my case, the polling stations were set up in the gym of a school and the AALDEF volunteers stood in the lobby) and waited for our "target group" to arrive and then we pounced. And so sometimes there were questions among the exit-pollsters as to whether someone was Asian or not. Indeed, one of the ethnicity options on the form was "Latino" because apparently this mistake is made sometimes.</p> <p>The exit-pollsters would politely ask Asian-looking people if they'd like to "participate in an Asian American voting survey" and then usually we'd have to explain who we were and why we were there. If they agreed to particpate, we handed them a form to fill out; at my site, we had forms in English, Urdu, Bengali, and Mandarin. 50% participation was pretty standard.</p> <p>The agency sponsoring exit-pollsters does have to get approval from the Board of Elections, which AALDEF and its coalition-partners did, and I haven't heard anything about poll workers being unhappy about the exit-pollsters presence, especially as the latter aren't allowed into the actual polling area.</p> <p>Regarding your not having ever seen exit-polling taking place: I've only voted absentee, so I haven't experienced it either. It probably depends on where you're voting; I would assume that exit-polling is much more common (among the major media networks, for example) in swing districts where elections are actually in contention, as opposed to in good ol' NYC.</p> I’m curious if anyone knows the background behind the actual polling. Do these people just stand outside the polls and wait for their “target group” (perhaps a bad choice of words when dealing with S. Asians…) to emerge and then pounce on them with questions? Do they have to have preapproval from the state election commissions of their respective states and have some form of ID? Are the other officials running each precincts usually cool with these folks hanging around? The reason I ask is whenever I’ve voted in person (3x versus the rest absentee), I’ve never seen anyone outside (or even inside, for that matter) look like they are pollsters, etc., i.e., non-precinct volunteers.

No Desh: I can answer that, if anyone’s still reading this thread.

I volunteered with AALDEF to exit-poll in NYC (specifically in Kensington, Brooklyn, where there are Pakistanis, Banglas, and Chinese folk).

And the method is exactly as you described it: we stood outside the polling place (in my case, the polling stations were set up in the gym of a school and the AALDEF volunteers stood in the lobby) and waited for our “target group” to arrive and then we pounced. And so sometimes there were questions among the exit-pollsters as to whether someone was Asian or not. Indeed, one of the ethnicity options on the form was “Latino” because apparently this mistake is made sometimes.

The exit-pollsters would politely ask Asian-looking people if they’d like to “participate in an Asian American voting survey” and then usually we’d have to explain who we were and why we were there. If they agreed to particpate, we handed them a form to fill out; at my site, we had forms in English, Urdu, Bengali, and Mandarin. 50% participation was pretty standard.

The agency sponsoring exit-pollsters does have to get approval from the Board of Elections, which AALDEF and its coalition-partners did, and I haven’t heard anything about poll workers being unhappy about the exit-pollsters presence, especially as the latter aren’t allowed into the actual polling area.

Regarding your not having ever seen exit-polling taking place: I’ve only voted absentee, so I haven’t experienced it either. It probably depends on where you’re voting; I would assume that exit-polling is much more common (among the major media networks, for example) in swing districts where elections are actually in contention, as opposed to in good ol’ NYC.

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By: SP http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100350 SP Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:22:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100350 <p>Ashvin - I know that desi intellectuals like to refer to the Middle East as West Asia, and arguably we have more in common with the Arab and Persian cultures than with those of China and Japan (about a quarter of everyday Hindustani words are Arabic, as I discovered when I studied the language!) but still. I'm curious about this classification, and wondered why they chose to do it this way.</p> Ashvin – I know that desi intellectuals like to refer to the Middle East as West Asia, and arguably we have more in common with the Arab and Persian cultures than with those of China and Japan (about a quarter of everyday Hindustani words are Arabic, as I discovered when I studied the language!) but still. I’m curious about this classification, and wondered why they chose to do it this way.

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By: circus in jungle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100349 circus in jungle Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:18:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100349 <p>JOAT</p> <p>That was hilarious. Those are the signs of assimilation ;).</p> JOAT

That was hilarious. Those are the signs of assimilation ;) .

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By: No Desh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100341 No Desh Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:49:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100341 <p>I'm curious if anyone knows the background behind the actual polling. Do these people just stand outside the polls and wait for their "target group" (perhaps a bad choice of words when dealing with S. Asians...) to emerge and then pounce on them with questions? Do they have to have preapproval from the state election commissions of their respective states and have some form of ID? Are the other officials running each precincts usually cool with these folks hanging around?</p> <p>The reason I ask is whenever I've voted in person (3x versus the rest absentee), I've never seen anyone outside (or even inside, for that matter) look like they are pollsters, etc., i.e., non-precinct volunteers.</p> I’m curious if anyone knows the background behind the actual polling. Do these people just stand outside the polls and wait for their “target group” (perhaps a bad choice of words when dealing with S. Asians…) to emerge and then pounce on them with questions? Do they have to have preapproval from the state election commissions of their respective states and have some form of ID? Are the other officials running each precincts usually cool with these folks hanging around?

The reason I ask is whenever I’ve voted in person (3x versus the rest absentee), I’ve never seen anyone outside (or even inside, for that matter) look like they are pollsters, etc., i.e., non-precinct volunteers.

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By: ashvin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100338 ashvin Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:32:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100338 <blockquote>Waitwaitwait - Arabic was counted as an Asian language? Odd. It's not at all related. I mean, it's still interesting to see how "browns" voted, of course, but that's a fairly glaring oddity. </blockquote> <p>Before the rest of them jump on this statement. Let me direct your attention to <a href="http://www.indiansareasian.com/map.html">this map</a> :)</p> Waitwaitwait – Arabic was counted as an Asian language? Odd. It’s not at all related. I mean, it’s still interesting to see how “browns” voted, of course, but that’s a fairly glaring oddity.

Before the rest of them jump on this statement. Let me direct your attention to this map :)

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By: Nara http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100337 Nara Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:31:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100337 <blockquote>New Jersey Senate: In this heated Senate race, among more than 370 Asian Americans polled, 77% voted for incumbent Sen. Robert Menendez, while 20% voted for Republican challenger Thomas Kean Jr.—a 57-point margin. 3% of Asian Americans polled voted for other candidates. Among all New Jersey voters, Menendez held his seat by an 8-point margin (53% to 45%). </blockquote> <p>I voted in NJ and wrote in for Thomas Friedman. I think he lives in NJ. Menendez was too establishment for my taste and I thought Kean was too green.</p> New Jersey Senate: In this heated Senate race, among more than 370 Asian Americans polled, 77% voted for incumbent Sen. Robert Menendez, while 20% voted for Republican challenger Thomas Kean Jr.—a 57-point margin. 3% of Asian Americans polled voted for other candidates. Among all New Jersey voters, Menendez held his seat by an 8-point margin (53% to 45%).

I voted in NJ and wrote in for Thomas Friedman. I think he lives in NJ. Menendez was too establishment for my taste and I thought Kean was too green.

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By: SP http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100335 SP Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:16:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100335 <p>Waitwaitwait - Arabic was counted as an Asian language? Odd. It's not at all related. I mean, it's still interesting to see how "browns" voted, of course, but that's a fairly glaring oddity.</p> Waitwaitwait – Arabic was counted as an Asian language? Odd. It’s not at all related. I mean, it’s still interesting to see how “browns” voted, of course, but that’s a fairly glaring oddity.

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By: Al Mujahid for debauchery http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100333 Al Mujahid for debauchery Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:09:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100333 <p>This macaca demands an SM EXIT POLL (Raises fist, looks around to unionize all the readers against SM so that the readers can be better represented)</p> This macaca demands an SM EXIT POLL (Raises fist, looks around to unionize all the readers against SM so that the readers can be better represented)

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By: Al Mujahid for debauchery http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100331 Al Mujahid for debauchery Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:07:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100331 <p><i>Sorry all but this is normal programming. If you don't like it you know what you can do :)</i></p> <p><b>Amen!</b> I love Abhi's political posts. In fact, I think we need more! (which kind of reiterates the point made by GK in #8)</p> <p>How about an exit poll of the macacas who read SM!</p> Sorry all but this is normal programming. If you don’t like it you know what you can do :)

Amen! I love Abhi’s political posts. In fact, I think we need more! (which kind of reiterates the point made by GK in #8)

How about an exit poll of the macacas who read SM!

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By: No von Mises http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/11/10/aaldefs_exit_po_1/comment-page-1/#comment-100327 No von Mises Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:57:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3948#comment-100327 <p>It took an election to kill the identity wars of last week. Future identity posts should be around November, every 2 years.</p> It took an election to kill the identity wars of last week. Future identity posts should be around November, every 2 years.

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