Comments on: The rituals of voting http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: bashir http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-287253 bashir Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:44:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-287253 <p>you know, you’re kinda cute with that “I just voted” smirk on your face</p> you know, you’re kinda cute with that “I just voted” smirk on your face

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By: Naveen Garg http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97781 Naveen Garg Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:23:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97781 <p>It pains me to see no mention of web based voting in current dialogue on electronic voting and voting reform. What's the obsession with having to have a paper trail? Why can't their be an electronic record? One social security number, one vote, keep the answers in a secure database that only the voter can access later. Why can't this supplement the present system? Why does it have to be either or? Keep the paper ballot system, just add a web based one for people who don't have time to vote, but whose opinion is probably atleast as important as the people with time to vote.</p> <p>The only argument i can think of against web based voting is that it will be too effective. And no one is making that argument.</p> <p>The problem is there are no pro web based voting people out there...</p> <p>prove me wrong sepia folks.</p> It pains me to see no mention of web based voting in current dialogue on electronic voting and voting reform. What’s the obsession with having to have a paper trail? Why can’t their be an electronic record? One social security number, one vote, keep the answers in a secure database that only the voter can access later. Why can’t this supplement the present system? Why does it have to be either or? Keep the paper ballot system, just add a web based one for people who don’t have time to vote, but whose opinion is probably atleast as important as the people with time to vote.

The only argument i can think of against web based voting is that it will be too effective. And no one is making that argument.

The problem is there are no pro web based voting people out there…

prove me wrong sepia folks.

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By: watevz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97444 watevz Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:07:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97444 <blockquote>would come back to screw me someday when my opponent reveals my sordid past to the electorate</blockquote> <p>abhi for president 2032!</p> <p>and we all thought sepia mutiny exists for our internet-delight...but nefarious abhi has OTHER plans up his sleeve.... ;)</p> would come back to screw me someday when my opponent reveals my sordid past to the electorate

abhi for president 2032!

and we all thought sepia mutiny exists for our internet-delight…but nefarious abhi has OTHER plans up his sleeve…. ;)

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By: Milind http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97367 Milind Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:33:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97367 <p>Do any of those decisions involve losing playoff series when you come in as a favorite (occasionally overwhelmingly so)? If so, maybe you should find other representations ;-)</p> Do any of those decisions involve losing playoff series when you come in as a favorite (occasionally overwhelmingly so)? If so, maybe you should find other representations ;-)

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By: Milind http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97361 Milind Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:15:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97361 <blockquote>BUT voting by mail is HIGHLY effective, and results in a higher turnout rate.</blockquote> <p>Which leads to an interesting conundrum. Is turnout for the sake of turnout the right thing to be pursuing? Or is it better to have a lower turnout with less fraud? Arguably, the 50-60% of Americans who <i>do</i> turn out to vote still produce a representative sample of the population, and hence the results aren't significantly different (I don't necessarily believe that this is true, but it certainly may be). If that's the case, isn't it better trade turnout for more trustworthy results?</p> BUT voting by mail is HIGHLY effective, and results in a higher turnout rate.

Which leads to an interesting conundrum. Is turnout for the sake of turnout the right thing to be pursuing? Or is it better to have a lower turnout with less fraud? Arguably, the 50-60% of Americans who do turn out to vote still produce a representative sample of the population, and hence the results aren’t significantly different (I don’t necessarily believe that this is true, but it certainly may be). If that’s the case, isn’t it better trade turnout for more trustworthy results?

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By: taz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97346 taz Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:42:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97346 <blockquote> here in oregon we're all doing mail in The major source of electoral fraud in the US is mail in ballots. </blockquote> <p>BUT voting by mail is HIGHLY effective, and results in a higher turnout rate. I encourage everyone in CA to register to vote with the Permanent Absentee Voter option - It means an absentee ballot comes to you by mail every election (until you miss two). LA & OC provide mutli-lingual voter materials, (no desi languages though) so when people do get absentee ballots, they are limited english - but have all the info they need in their mother tongue - they are morel likely to vote. And to vote smart.</p> <p>In the OC btw, 60% + of their vietnamese voters turnout to vote by absentee. This is HUGE.</p> here in oregon we’re all doing mail in The major source of electoral fraud in the US is mail in ballots.

BUT voting by mail is HIGHLY effective, and results in a higher turnout rate. I encourage everyone in CA to register to vote with the Permanent Absentee Voter option – It means an absentee ballot comes to you by mail every election (until you miss two). LA & OC provide mutli-lingual voter materials, (no desi languages though) so when people do get absentee ballots, they are limited english – but have all the info they need in their mother tongue – they are morel likely to vote. And to vote smart.

In the OC btw, 60% + of their vietnamese voters turnout to vote by absentee. This is HUGE.

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By: Shruti http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97344 Shruti Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:26:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97344 <blockquote>4) Pump yourself up: Voting is hot and most people look more attractive with an “I just voted” sticker on their chest. Granted that we don’t get to dip our fingers in purple ink, but still. To get pumped I like to give myself a motivational speech while looking in the mirror just prior to going to city hall. </blockquote> <p>Voting is weird when you're in a church. Where I live, most of the polling places are run by churches and affiliated religious institutions. I can count on one hand the number of times I've been inside of a church, and two of the times has been for voting. Just being in the place and looking around is overwhelming enough - it certainly doesn't help that the whole thing is conducted by these really old white men decked out in patriotic gear. Hmmm.</p> 4) Pump yourself up: Voting is hot and most people look more attractive with an “I just voted” sticker on their chest. Granted that we don’t get to dip our fingers in purple ink, but still. To get pumped I like to give myself a motivational speech while looking in the mirror just prior to going to city hall.

Voting is weird when you’re in a church. Where I live, most of the polling places are run by churches and affiliated religious institutions. I can count on one hand the number of times I’ve been inside of a church, and two of the times has been for voting. Just being in the place and looking around is overwhelming enough – it certainly doesn’t help that the whole thing is conducted by these really old white men decked out in patriotic gear. Hmmm.

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By: Sriram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97340 Sriram Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:02:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97340 <p>Great link, Taz. Thank you.</p> Great link, Taz. Thank you.

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By: Beige Siege http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97339 Beige Siege Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:56:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97339 <p>Is'nt it about time people voted on the internet or via text message? Physically going somewhere to vote is so .. 20th century.</p> Is’nt it about time people voted on the internet or via text message? Physically going somewhere to vote is so .. 20th century.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/30/the_rituals_of/comment-page-1/#comment-97331 Ennis Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:38:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3912#comment-97331 <blockquote>here in oregon we're all doing mail in</blockquote> <p>The major source of electoral fraud in the US is mail in ballots.</p> here in oregon we’re all doing mail in

The major source of electoral fraud in the US is mail in ballots.

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