Comments on: Asra Nomani, Daud Sharifa, and the Women’s Mosque http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: just me http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-180975 just me Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:34:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-180975 <p>why cant muslim women and muslim men pray together in the Mosque?</p> why cant muslim women and muslim men pray together in the Mosque?

]]> By: layz me http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-180974 layz me Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:33:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-180974 <p>why cant msulim women and muslim men pray together in the Mosque?</p> why cant msulim women and muslim men pray together in the Mosque?

]]> By: SP http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-97082 SP Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:15:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-97082 <p>I've followed Duad Sharifa's project for a women's jamaat for a little while now and I really hope it takes off. It will set an example for all Indian women - we all suffer from patriarchy, not just the Muslim women, though the self-protecting defensiveness that goes with being Muslim in India no doubt makes it a bit harder to push change through.</p> I’ve followed Duad Sharifa’s project for a women’s jamaat for a little while now and I really hope it takes off. It will set an example for all Indian women – we all suffer from patriarchy, not just the Muslim women, though the self-protecting defensiveness that goes with being Muslim in India no doubt makes it a bit harder to push change through.

]]> By: Ameena Meer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-96995 Ameena Meer Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:43:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-96995 <p>one more thing:</p> <p>women DO indeed pray in mosques and more of them should! (i say this as the mum of three daughters)</p> <p>and, if you were watching tv last night, ABC news showed lots of muslim women (us amongt them) praying in mosques - i am guessing cameramen haven't shot many women just to be respectful. however, i have been in tons of mosques that have neither separate entrances nor separate areas - men and women pray together - perhaps not side-by-side, because many women feel uncomfortable given the physical nature of the prayer.</p> <p>there is no injunction against men and women praying together in the quran.</p> <p>also, in many modern masjids, like ours, sunnis, shias, sufis, and even the occasional buddhists, christians, jews and hindus pray, meditate and give khutbas (sermons).</p> <p>the idea is that the Divine sees your heart and intentions, not your external form...</p> <p>peace, ameena</p> one more thing:

women DO indeed pray in mosques and more of them should! (i say this as the mum of three daughters)

and, if you were watching tv last night, ABC news showed lots of muslim women (us amongt them) praying in mosques – i am guessing cameramen haven’t shot many women just to be respectful. however, i have been in tons of mosques that have neither separate entrances nor separate areas – men and women pray together – perhaps not side-by-side, because many women feel uncomfortable given the physical nature of the prayer.

there is no injunction against men and women praying together in the quran.

also, in many modern masjids, like ours, sunnis, shias, sufis, and even the occasional buddhists, christians, jews and hindus pray, meditate and give khutbas (sermons).

the idea is that the Divine sees your heart and intentions, not your external form…

peace, ameena

]]> By: Ameena Meer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-96993 Ameena Meer Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:32:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-96993 <p>and check out asra nomani's latest project, a unified muslim voice for peace, tolerance and understanding for ALL people, all religions, all genders, all sexual orientation:</p> <p>www.muslimsforpeace.net</p> <p>we are planning a peace march for october 2007 and EVERYONE is invited.</p> <p>love, ameena</p> and check out asra nomani’s latest project, a unified muslim voice for peace, tolerance and understanding for ALL people, all religions, all genders, all sexual orientation:

http://www.muslimsforpeace.net

we are planning a peace march for october 2007 and EVERYONE is invited.

love, ameena

]]> By: Sriram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-96908 Sriram Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:39:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-96908 <p>'Tis unfortunate that I know more than a few people in Tamil Nadu who would read this and not even see the gender equality angle. Rather, they would be upset that mosques are being built in South India.</p> ‘Tis unfortunate that I know more than a few people in Tamil Nadu who would read this and not even see the gender equality angle. Rather, they would be upset that mosques are being built in South India.

]]> By: desi aussie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-96850 desi aussie Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:50:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-96850 <p>"kangaroo courts" brrrr. leave the kangaroos alone mate :) they are our national icon.</p> <p>Why cant men and women pray together in Islam?</p> <p>Separate but equal reeks to me of apartheid / segregation.</p> <p>Could someone explain. Please dont use "belief" as a reason. The same logic extends to Apartheid. After all many white South Africans believed that they were fulfilling the commandments of God.</p> <p>Incidentally, there is a huge ruckus brewing in Australia about a Muslim cleric who compared women with meat! Time to throw the jerk into gaol under the Aussie version of the Patriot Act. This joker claims he was misquoted as he was preaching in Arabic.</p> <p>In South India - preaching is mostly in the local language eg Tamil,Malayalam,Kannada. Has anyone been to a mosque in USA /UK where an Imam preaches in Tamil or Malayalam or Bengali. In Oz they tend to stick to English or Arabic.</p> “kangaroo courts” brrrr. leave the kangaroos alone mate :) they are our national icon.

Why cant men and women pray together in Islam?

Separate but equal reeks to me of apartheid / segregation.

Could someone explain. Please dont use “belief” as a reason. The same logic extends to Apartheid. After all many white South Africans believed that they were fulfilling the commandments of God.

Incidentally, there is a huge ruckus brewing in Australia about a Muslim cleric who compared women with meat! Time to throw the jerk into gaol under the Aussie version of the Patriot Act. This joker claims he was misquoted as he was preaching in Arabic.

In South India – preaching is mostly in the local language eg Tamil,Malayalam,Kannada. Has anyone been to a mosque in USA /UK where an Imam preaches in Tamil or Malayalam or Bengali. In Oz they tend to stick to English or Arabic.

]]> By: Macacaroach http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-96838 Macacaroach Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:33:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-96838 <blockquote>Daud Sharifa’s justification for the project seems strong: “The male jamaats are unlawful kangaroo courts that play with the lives of women.</blockquote> <p>Good. We are witnessing the beginnings of a sea change. I predict that the Islam of the wahhabis, salafis, ayatollahs and mullahs is doomed. Perhaps Sufism, which is based on indian spirituality to a large extent, will make a comeback.</p> <p>Heres another strong, outspoken, angry muslim woman, a bahraini arab, boldly lashing out at Islamic Sharia for its sexual exploitation of women (including even little girl babies according to her!). A must see video:</p> <p>[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFrlQPvBmC0[/url]</p> Daud Sharifa’s justification for the project seems strong: “The male jamaats are unlawful kangaroo courts that play with the lives of women.

Good. We are witnessing the beginnings of a sea change. I predict that the Islam of the wahhabis, salafis, ayatollahs and mullahs is doomed. Perhaps Sufism, which is based on indian spirituality to a large extent, will make a comeback.

Heres another strong, outspoken, angry muslim woman, a bahraini arab, boldly lashing out at Islamic Sharia for its sexual exploitation of women (including even little girl babies according to her!). A must see video:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFrlQPvBmC0[/url]

]]> By: Metric System http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-96803 Metric System Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:18:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-96803 <p>I think we only see men praying at mosques because most cameramen are probably men.</p> I think we only see men praying at mosques because most cameramen are probably men.

]]> By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/10/26/asra_nomani_dau/comment-page-1/#comment-96783 HMF Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:57:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3902#comment-96783 <p>Isn't this a case of separate but equal? How is building a mosque necessarily going to empower women if it's always known as the "woman's mosque" Sort of like how no one watches the WNBA.</p> Isn’t this a case of separate but equal? How is building a mosque necessarily going to empower women if it’s always known as the “woman’s mosque” Sort of like how no one watches the WNBA.

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