Comments on: Pavlov Auntie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: rafa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-219196 rafa Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:28:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-219196 <p>thenks very interisting</p> thenks very interisting

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By: DesiDawg http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-92447 DesiDawg Sun, 08 Oct 2006 10:25:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-92447 <p><i>why can't someone watch TV AND watch a snake charming performance? They can, and they do. Alot of people.</i> Do you know that circus troupes have died out in India due to lack of an audience response? Only in your "village", a <b>lot of people</b> watch a snake charming performance.</p> <p><i>First of all, I'm not the one assuming that snake charmers, brick-carrying donkeys and limited electricity are backwards. YOU are assuming that because that is what you think and that is what you are ashamed of.</i></p> <p>Really! So using animals for labor instead of loaders and trucks is progress? I guess the whole industrial revolution wasn't really a step forward?</p> <p>You are right- I am not proud of the backwardness, the poverty and hunger that exists in rural India.</p> why can’t someone watch TV AND watch a snake charming performance? They can, and they do. Alot of people. Do you know that circus troupes have died out in India due to lack of an audience response? Only in your “village”, a lot of people watch a snake charming performance.

First of all, I’m not the one assuming that snake charmers, brick-carrying donkeys and limited electricity are backwards. YOU are assuming that because that is what you think and that is what you are ashamed of.

Really! So using animals for labor instead of loaders and trucks is progress? I guess the whole industrial revolution wasn’t really a step forward?

You are right- I am not proud of the backwardness, the poverty and hunger that exists in rural India.

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By: Pardesi Gori http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-92386 Pardesi Gori Sat, 07 Oct 2006 22:14:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-92386 <p><b></p> <blockquote>I hereby with the powers bestowed upon me as the self appointed president of the Akhal Bharathiya Sanskriti Aur Sampradhay Samiti designate you as official spokesperson of Desilog in Desiland Janata ;)</blockquote> <p></b></p> <p>Honour humbly accepted, dhanyavad.</p>

I hereby with the powers bestowed upon me as the self appointed president of the Akhal Bharathiya Sanskriti Aur Sampradhay Samiti designate you as official spokesperson of Desilog in Desiland Janata ;)

Honour humbly accepted, dhanyavad.

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By: Beige Siege http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-91829 Beige Siege Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:03:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-91829 <p>Pardesi Gori - I love your comments. As someone who grew up in India, I think you "GET" it better than most commenters here. You Represent!</p> <p>I hereby with the powers bestowed upon me as the self appointed president of the Akhal Bharathiya Sanskriti Aur Sampradhay Samiti designate you as official spokesperson of Desilog in Desiland Janata ;)</p> Pardesi Gori – I love your comments. As someone who grew up in India, I think you “GET” it better than most commenters here. You Represent!

I hereby with the powers bestowed upon me as the self appointed president of the Akhal Bharathiya Sanskriti Aur Sampradhay Samiti designate you as official spokesperson of Desilog in Desiland Janata ;)

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By: Pardesi Gori http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-91821 Pardesi Gori Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:35:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-91821 <p>DD (DesiDawg) -</p> <p>I'll pose a similar question as Kurma, why can't someone watch TV AND watch a snake charming performance? They can, and they do. Alot of people.</p> <p>First of all, I'm not the one assuming that snake charmers, brick-carrying donkeys and limited electricity are backwards. YOU are assuming that because that is what you think and that is what you are ashamed of.</p> <p>I'm not. It's all part of normal life in India.</p> <p>Your suggestion that I spend more time in the cities - for what exactly? Slightly higher access to electricity? Multi-plex theatres with AC? What benefit would I get from spending more time in metros? What's wrong with the small towns and villages?</p> <p>That being said, I do spend quite a lot of time in Delhi. Again, the electricity is not 24/7, donkeys still carry bricks there, cows still roam the streets, and yes, there is an occaisonal "gypsy" carrying a wicker basket --- guess what's in the basket? A cobra.</p> DD (DesiDawg) -

I’ll pose a similar question as Kurma, why can’t someone watch TV AND watch a snake charming performance? They can, and they do. Alot of people.

First of all, I’m not the one assuming that snake charmers, brick-carrying donkeys and limited electricity are backwards. YOU are assuming that because that is what you think and that is what you are ashamed of.

I’m not. It’s all part of normal life in India.

Your suggestion that I spend more time in the cities – for what exactly? Slightly higher access to electricity? Multi-plex theatres with AC? What benefit would I get from spending more time in metros? What’s wrong with the small towns and villages?

That being said, I do spend quite a lot of time in Delhi. Again, the electricity is not 24/7, donkeys still carry bricks there, cows still roam the streets, and yes, there is an occaisonal “gypsy” carrying a wicker basket — guess what’s in the basket? A cobra.

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By: DesiDawg http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-91702 DesiDawg Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:07:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-91702 <p><i>I've lived in India since the early 1990s, so I am well aware of all of this. 56% of all Indians have access to "regular electricity"? Depends on what is meant by "regular". I reside in a small town that up until recently was a village and is very fast becoming what some might refer to as a "suburb" type of environment, but that is stretching the term "suburb" to it's very out limits. Yeah, we have regular electricity. It is regularly going off and on. And our area is known for having the most electricity within, like say 30 kilometers all around us.</i></p> <p>Pardesi Gori, First of all accept my sincere apologies. I only take issue with your "selective reporting bias" and not with you.</p> <p>However, I bet if someone would only look at the quality of life in rural Arkansas and Alabama, that would make the US seem very backward indeed. Maybe you need to explore the Indian cities more?</p> I’ve lived in India since the early 1990s, so I am well aware of all of this. 56% of all Indians have access to “regular electricity”? Depends on what is meant by “regular”. I reside in a small town that up until recently was a village and is very fast becoming what some might refer to as a “suburb” type of environment, but that is stretching the term “suburb” to it’s very out limits. Yeah, we have regular electricity. It is regularly going off and on. And our area is known for having the most electricity within, like say 30 kilometers all around us.

Pardesi Gori, First of all accept my sincere apologies. I only take issue with your “selective reporting bias” and not with you.

However, I bet if someone would only look at the quality of life in rural Arkansas and Alabama, that would make the US seem very backward indeed. Maybe you need to explore the Indian cities more?

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By: DesiDawg http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-91700 DesiDawg Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:58:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-91700 <p><i>I agree with venu #125 on all counts regarding PG's #124. Desidawg, what's your point regarding the TV's? Why can't I have access to a TV and also be a using bullock carts/donkeys?</i></p> <p>Kurma, I was actually responding to PG's assertion about people using snake charmers for entertainment...</p> I agree with venu #125 on all counts regarding PG’s #124. Desidawg, what’s your point regarding the TV’s? Why can’t I have access to a TV and also be a using bullock carts/donkeys?

Kurma, I was actually responding to PG’s assertion about people using snake charmers for entertainment…

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By: Floridian http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-91638 Floridian Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:20:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-91638 <p>PG: A word of advice from an Uncle-ji. Why do you have to announce to the world, through your name and your writing, that you are a white woman living in India? Is that persona at all essential to your outpourings on SM? I think you are regarded by some as a cultural infiltrator, even when what you say is often true and always untainted by value judgment. You are also stereotyped, unfairly of course, as a hippie slumming in India with no moral right to pontificate about our culture, even though your 15-year tenure on the streets of India have earned you the right. Heck, in less than fifteen years, we first-generation Indians become experts on American life, politics, economy and culture.</p> <p>I concur with most of your observations because I have lived the life and still do when I am visiting India. And believe me, I am not ashamed of anything Indian. Since technology leapfrogs over infrastructure, you do see in the "gulleys" of Banaras a street vendor with a basket of vegetables on his head and a cell phone stuck in his ear. Doesn't make India any worse. Heck, I would take 8.9% annual GDP growth and the strong fundamentals fueling the Indian economy over our mature US economy anyday. Besides, a nation's or a culture's worth need not be measured by its economy.</p> <p>I got a kick out of that term, hi-fi. I understood what it meant. By the way, which UP city? Not Banaras, is it?</p> PG: A word of advice from an Uncle-ji. Why do you have to announce to the world, through your name and your writing, that you are a white woman living in India? Is that persona at all essential to your outpourings on SM? I think you are regarded by some as a cultural infiltrator, even when what you say is often true and always untainted by value judgment. You are also stereotyped, unfairly of course, as a hippie slumming in India with no moral right to pontificate about our culture, even though your 15-year tenure on the streets of India have earned you the right. Heck, in less than fifteen years, we first-generation Indians become experts on American life, politics, economy and culture.

I concur with most of your observations because I have lived the life and still do when I am visiting India. And believe me, I am not ashamed of anything Indian. Since technology leapfrogs over infrastructure, you do see in the “gulleys” of Banaras a street vendor with a basket of vegetables on his head and a cell phone stuck in his ear. Doesn’t make India any worse. Heck, I would take 8.9% annual GDP growth and the strong fundamentals fueling the Indian economy over our mature US economy anyday. Besides, a nation’s or a culture’s worth need not be measured by its economy.

I got a kick out of that term, hi-fi. I understood what it meant. By the way, which UP city? Not Banaras, is it?

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By: brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-91602 brown Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:48:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-91602 <p>PG:</p> <p>Are you by any chance White Trash from <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/001954.html">this post</a> as the tone is awfully similar.</p> PG:

Are you by any chance White Trash from this post as the tone is awfully similar.

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By: Kurma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/29/pavlov_auntie/comment-page-3/#comment-91585 Kurma Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:19:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3828#comment-91585 <p>I agree with venu #125 on all counts regarding PG's #124. Desidawg, what's your point regarding the TV's? Why can't I have access to a TV and also be a using bullock carts/donkeys? I want to mention also that rolling blackouts are considered regular electricity and not necessarily a 24/7 supply. Actually rolling blackouts are better than other forms of "regular" since you'd at least know when it's going to be.</p> I agree with venu #125 on all counts regarding PG’s #124. Desidawg, what’s your point regarding the TV’s? Why can’t I have access to a TV and also be a using bullock carts/donkeys? I want to mention also that rolling blackouts are considered regular electricity and not necessarily a 24/7 supply. Actually rolling blackouts are better than other forms of “regular” since you’d at least know when it’s going to be.

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