Comments on: Misogyny kills http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rachael http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-206984 Rachael Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:23:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-206984 <p>Unfortunately the lack of help by men transcends all cultures. I'm caucasian and so is my husband. He was raised more conservatively than I had realized before we were married. He does very little housework, yet we both work Full Time and make equal salaries. We are both professionals. I'm not depressed, but extremely disgruntled. As far as the son goes...whats the deal? This use to go on in our culture (still does, but it is subliminal). Do men realize they are losing a population,, by discounting women. If anyone wonders how we came to have nuclear medicine and a host of other technologies read EMC2 on Amazon and you will see the importance of women and their brain power. We were not simply put on this earth to breed.</p> Unfortunately the lack of help by men transcends all cultures. I’m caucasian and so is my husband. He was raised more conservatively than I had realized before we were married. He does very little housework, yet we both work Full Time and make equal salaries. We are both professionals. I’m not depressed, but extremely disgruntled. As far as the son goes…whats the deal? This use to go on in our culture (still does, but it is subliminal). Do men realize they are losing a population,, by discounting women. If anyone wonders how we came to have nuclear medicine and a host of other technologies read EMC2 on Amazon and you will see the importance of women and their brain power. We were not simply put on this earth to breed.

]]> By: PKS http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-92765 PKS Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:03:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-92765 <p>I'm coming back to this late, and it sounds like folks think there are too many comments, but I had to respond to the following comment:</p> <p>"I am basing my opinion on the statistics and anecdotal evidence that comes out of INDIA, such as: the number of sex-based abortions that occur and are rising disproportionately in Punjab/Haryana."</p> <p>Again, why must we always ascribe behavior to the narrowest grounds of religious identity? Misogyny is not a uniquely Punjabi or Sikh failing, it exists throughout India. Sex-based abortion may happen disproportionately in Punjab precisely because of its relative prosperity: families there who are so inclined can afford the ultrasound and the abortion compared to people in other states. The motivation is cultural--and I mean Indian culture. No ethnic or religious minority (or majority, for that matter) has the market cornered on misogyny.</p> <p>On a slightly different note, Pakistani Punjabis and Indian Punjabis may still have a lot in common (music, language, history) but the divergence that has taken place in the nearly sixty years after Partition is significant--just like you can't generalize about the diasporic communities of Punjabis in the UK to the US or Canada, you can't generalize about Punjabi culture across the Pakistani Muslim/Indian Sikh & Hindu divide. It's outdated. At any rate, on a south asian site, it doesn't seem useful to me to analyze one ethnic or religious group, especially since (I'm making an educated guess), most folks here aren't experts on religious or ethnic groups outside their own.</p> I’m coming back to this late, and it sounds like folks think there are too many comments, but I had to respond to the following comment:

“I am basing my opinion on the statistics and anecdotal evidence that comes out of INDIA, such as: the number of sex-based abortions that occur and are rising disproportionately in Punjab/Haryana.”

Again, why must we always ascribe behavior to the narrowest grounds of religious identity? Misogyny is not a uniquely Punjabi or Sikh failing, it exists throughout India. Sex-based abortion may happen disproportionately in Punjab precisely because of its relative prosperity: families there who are so inclined can afford the ultrasound and the abortion compared to people in other states. The motivation is cultural–and I mean Indian culture. No ethnic or religious minority (or majority, for that matter) has the market cornered on misogyny.

On a slightly different note, Pakistani Punjabis and Indian Punjabis may still have a lot in common (music, language, history) but the divergence that has taken place in the nearly sixty years after Partition is significant–just like you can’t generalize about the diasporic communities of Punjabis in the UK to the US or Canada, you can’t generalize about Punjabi culture across the Pakistani Muslim/Indian Sikh & Hindu divide. It’s outdated. At any rate, on a south asian site, it doesn’t seem useful to me to analyze one ethnic or religious group, especially since (I’m making an educated guess), most folks here aren’t experts on religious or ethnic groups outside their own.

]]> By: SM Intern http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-92435 SM Intern Sun, 08 Oct 2006 04:40:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-92435 <p>What's rubbish is your <i>awful</i> attitude. It's neither cute nor mutinous. Somewhere, deep inside of you, is a witty commenter who has a point or two worth listening to, but unfortunately for all of us, that Dharma Queen rarely deigns to visit.</p> <p>Why can't you just be less obnoxious? Isn't it obvious we are trying NOT to ban you, hence the repeated requests for your cooperation? Or maybe that counts for nothing with you-- if so, enjoy that giggle when you're disinvited to the party. There's a difference between being a provocateur and being a contrarian.</p> What’s rubbish is your awful attitude. It’s neither cute nor mutinous. Somewhere, deep inside of you, is a witty commenter who has a point or two worth listening to, but unfortunately for all of us, that Dharma Queen rarely deigns to visit.

Why can’t you just be less obnoxious? Isn’t it obvious we are trying NOT to ban you, hence the repeated requests for your cooperation? Or maybe that counts for nothing with you– if so, enjoy that giggle when you’re disinvited to the party. There’s a difference between being a provocateur and being a contrarian.

]]> By: Dharma Queen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-92434 Dharma Queen Sun, 08 Oct 2006 04:13:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-92434 <p>Intern or whoever-you-are, What rubbish. Why don't you look at some of the other threads I've participated in (ie Pavlov Auntie, Brownz must speak English in the airport, Pecola etc.)- none of these have erupted into 'chaos'. If you want to ban me, go ahead; it'll prompt nothing in me but a laugh.</p> Intern or whoever-you-are, What rubbish. Why don’t you look at some of the other threads I’ve participated in (ie Pavlov Auntie, Brownz must speak English in the airport, Pecola etc.)- none of these have erupted into ‘chaos’. If you want to ban me, go ahead; it’ll prompt nothing in me but a laugh.

]]> By: SM Intern http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-92433 SM Intern Sun, 08 Oct 2006 03:56:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-92433 <blockquote>Rajni never asked me not to address the individual-who-shall-henceforth-remain-nameless' poodle, so: It is also hard to respect someone whose diction is pre-adolescent at best and who derives all her opinions from the latest issue of Cosmo. Pardesi/Mystic wins HANDS DOWN over you.</blockquote> <p>Dharma Queen:</p> <p>What a mature, significant statement you made there. You are on notice, AGAIN. Your antics add no value to these threads. If you are the fierce, intelligent brown woman I suspect you actually are, then going forward, please type accordingly. My patience with you is running out; the chaos you bring to every thread you participate in inevitably damages it. Enough.</p> Rajni never asked me not to address the individual-who-shall-henceforth-remain-nameless’ poodle, so: It is also hard to respect someone whose diction is pre-adolescent at best and who derives all her opinions from the latest issue of Cosmo. Pardesi/Mystic wins HANDS DOWN over you.

Dharma Queen:

What a mature, significant statement you made there. You are on notice, AGAIN. Your antics add no value to these threads. If you are the fierce, intelligent brown woman I suspect you actually are, then going forward, please type accordingly. My patience with you is running out; the chaos you bring to every thread you participate in inevitably damages it. Enough.

]]> By: Pardesi Gori http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-91577 Pardesi Gori Wed, 04 Oct 2006 19:37:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-91577 <p><b></p> <blockquote>i wonder how many people stopped reading the comments after reading your drivel.</blockquote> <p></b></p> <p>I wonder if HMF ever got his girl?</p>

i wonder how many people stopped reading the comments after reading your drivel.

I wonder if HMF ever got his girl?

]]> By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-90861 HMF Sun, 01 Oct 2006 23:09:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-90861 <p>"i wonder how many people stopped reading the comments after reading your drivel."</p> <p>The truly smart ones I'm sure <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003818.html#comment89830">stopped</a> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003818.html#comment89955">right</a> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003818.html#comment90055">away</a>.</p> “i wonder how many people stopped reading the comments after reading your drivel.”

The truly smart ones I’m sure stopped right away.

]]> By: Salil Maniktahla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-90815 Salil Maniktahla Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:23:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-90815 <blockquote>i wonder how many people stopped reading the comments after reading your drivel.</blockquote> <p><em>cough</em></p> i wonder how many people stopped reading the comments after reading your drivel.

cough

]]> By: razib_the_atheist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-90808 razib_the_atheist Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:37:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-90808 <p><i>I think the "life of it's own" started around post 46, to be exact.</i></p> <p>i wonder how many people stopped reading the comments after reading your drivel.</p> I think the “life of it’s own” started around post 46, to be exact.

i wonder how many people stopped reading the comments after reading your drivel.

]]> By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/27/misogyny_kills/comment-page-7/#comment-90806 HMF Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:07:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3818#comment-90806 <p>I think the "life of it's own" started around post 46, to be exact.</p> I think the “life of it’s own” started around post 46, to be exact.

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