Comments on: “The Devil Is In The House” http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: superdork http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-3/#comment-89152 superdork Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:03:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-89152 <p>"after all, if i sitting in my office can raise consciousness, why can't a cabbie who works 20 hours a day?"</p> <pre><code>I get it dude. Don't judge a cabbie or anybody else who works "in the trenches", till you drive a mile in his cab, at night, in the neighborhoods he most fears. Sensitivity training is all very well, but you must walk the walk, drive the drive. That done, those left standing get to preach to the rest of us. </code></pre> <p>"Oy, can't people get back to talking smack about Chavez"</p> <p>I'd love to but I think he stole that devil line from a Seinfeld episode. There was a comedian who took revenge on Jerry by calling him, The Devil in her show. So now we have Chavez, rapping about George, The Devil. It'd be a sitcom if it all weren't so bloody tragic.</p> “after all, if i sitting in my office can raise consciousness, why can’t a cabbie who works 20 hours a day?”

I get it dude. Don't judge a cabbie or anybody else who works "in the trenches", till you drive a mile in his cab, at night, in the neighborhoods he most fears. Sensitivity training is all very well, but you must walk the walk, drive the drive. That done, those left standing get to preach to the rest of us.

“Oy, can’t people get back to talking smack about Chavez”

I’d love to but I think he stole that devil line from a Seinfeld episode. There was a comedian who took revenge on Jerry by calling him, The Devil in her show. So now we have Chavez, rapping about George, The Devil. It’d be a sitcom if it all weren’t so bloody tragic.

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By: Mr Kobayashi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-3/#comment-88922 Mr Kobayashi Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:40:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88922 <blockquote>Kobayashi: You're asking for it. I've stood idly by while you've supported terrorism, beastiality, and raising taxes. You sir, are an evildoer. </blockquote> <p>Please, don't mislead people. I only support a limited raising of taxes.</p> Kobayashi: You’re asking for it. I’ve stood idly by while you’ve supported terrorism, beastiality, and raising taxes. You sir, are an evildoer.

Please, don’t mislead people. I only support a limited raising of taxes.

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By: Vikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-3/#comment-88893 Vikram Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:50:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88893 <blockquote> Anyone who offends with his words or in writing or in any other way disrespects the President of the Republic or whomever is fulfilling his duties will be punished with prison of 6 to 30 months if the offense is serious and half of that if it is light. </blockquote> <p>Not surprising... this hypocrisy is similar to Mexican law treating illegal immigrants in Mexico as felons subject to imprisonment, even though Mexicans protest the "unfair" treatment of illegal Mexicans in the US. "Do as we tell you, not as we do". Someone should have asked Chavez about the law.</p> Anyone who offends with his words or in writing or in any other way disrespects the President of the Republic or whomever is fulfilling his duties will be punished with prison of 6 to 30 months if the offense is serious and half of that if it is light.

Not surprising… this hypocrisy is similar to Mexican law treating illegal immigrants in Mexico as felons subject to imprisonment, even though Mexicans protest the “unfair” treatment of illegal Mexicans in the US. “Do as we tell you, not as we do”. Someone should have asked Chavez about the law.

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By: Victor Freeh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-3/#comment-88853 Victor Freeh Sat, 23 Sep 2006 06:32:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88853 <p>Oy, can't people get back to talking smack about Chavez? Hmm, actually people don't seem to have done very much of that to begin with. Maybe a little quoting from the Venezuelan penal code is in order:</p> <p><i>Anyone who offends with his words or in writing or in any other way disrespects the President of the Republic or whomever is fulfilling his duties will be punished with prison of 6 to 30 months if the offense is serious and half of that if it is light.</i></p> <p>It's very easy not to pass laws like this. Chavez chose the other route. One doesn't need to be "play[ing] into US patriotism" to call this guy a thug.</p> Oy, can’t people get back to talking smack about Chavez? Hmm, actually people don’t seem to have done very much of that to begin with. Maybe a little quoting from the Venezuelan penal code is in order:

Anyone who offends with his words or in writing or in any other way disrespects the President of the Republic or whomever is fulfilling his duties will be punished with prison of 6 to 30 months if the offense is serious and half of that if it is light.

It’s very easy not to pass laws like this. Chavez chose the other route. One doesn’t need to be “play[ing] into US patriotism” to call this guy a thug.

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By: BrooklynBrown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-2/#comment-88841 BrooklynBrown Sat, 23 Sep 2006 04:28:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88841 <p>Man, I need a new job where I can comment more. Anyway, my new take on the Chavez story is that <a href="http://brooklynmasala.blogspot.com/2006/09/devil-insulted-to-be-called-george.html">the Devil was probably insulted to be equated with George Bush</a>.</p> Man, I need a new job where I can comment more. Anyway, my new take on the Chavez story is that the Devil was probably insulted to be equated with George Bush.

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-2/#comment-88837 GujuDude Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:54:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88837 <p>Atleast these guys didn't start banging their shoes on the podium like good ol Nikita Krushchev. What a bunch of buffoons.</p> Atleast these guys didn’t start banging their shoes on the podium like good ol Nikita Krushchev. What a bunch of buffoons.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-2/#comment-88815 Manju Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:00:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88815 <blockquote>To get this post back on thread, I propose we determine who the Devil is, as far as Sepia Mutiny is concerned. Cause this place sure smells of sulphur.</blockquote> <p>Kobayashi:</p> <p>You're asking for it. I've stood idly by while you've supported terrorism, beastiality, and raising taxes. You sir, are an evildoer.</p> To get this post back on thread, I propose we determine who the Devil is, as far as Sepia Mutiny is concerned. Cause this place sure smells of sulphur.

Kobayashi:

You’re asking for it. I’ve stood idly by while you’ve supported terrorism, beastiality, and raising taxes. You sir, are an evildoer.

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By: razib_the_atheist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-2/#comment-88807 razib_the_atheist Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:41:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88807 <p>....brownz.</p> ….brownz.

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By: Umang http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-2/#comment-88806 Umang Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:38:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88806 <blockquote>In New York, I have met with African American cabbies who are reluctant, to put it mildly, to pick up African American fares.</blockquote> <p>I think this is very good point. Non-blacks aren't the only ones who are racist. There's no shortage of black people who are also racist. This is partly because overcoming racist thinking is something that we must actively work toward -- without education, most people inherently lean toward race as a proxy for judging people.</p> <p>Also, I've found that people from other countries (particularly less developed, less educated countries) are much more racist than Americans. Partly it's because America values diversity (unlike Europe and Japan) and partly because Americans are better educated on the race issue (than say Asians or Africans). Ironically, I've met some African Americans (immigrants from Africa) who hold very negative views of blacks in America and don't hesitate to drop n-bombs to describe them.</p> In New York, I have met with African American cabbies who are reluctant, to put it mildly, to pick up African American fares.

I think this is very good point. Non-blacks aren’t the only ones who are racist. There’s no shortage of black people who are also racist. This is partly because overcoming racist thinking is something that we must actively work toward — without education, most people inherently lean toward race as a proxy for judging people.

Also, I’ve found that people from other countries (particularly less developed, less educated countries) are much more racist than Americans. Partly it’s because America values diversity (unlike Europe and Japan) and partly because Americans are better educated on the race issue (than say Asians or Africans). Ironically, I’ve met some African Americans (immigrants from Africa) who hold very negative views of blacks in America and don’t hesitate to drop n-bombs to describe them.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/22/here_in_new_yor/comment-page-2/#comment-88805 Manju Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:30:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3806#comment-88805 <p>No von Mises:</p> <p>interesting. thanks for the extensive reply. i got this from the link:</p> <blockquote>Food redlining continues thanks to the myth that stores in lower-income communities aren't as profitable. "The companies couch it in strict business terms," Fisher says. That makes sense, until you look at the data.</blockquote> <p>if this is true, and this is a big at this point, a free market solution would be obvious. but when the person saying this is running a non-profit, i get skeptical. given how dynamic the US economy is, there is no reason to rely on existing supermarket co's to provide service.</p> <p>i believe ron burkle made a fortune with supermarkets in LA ghettos. So maybe there really is an opportunity here. it would be a shame if the black community in particular let it pass.</p> No von Mises:

interesting. thanks for the extensive reply. i got this from the link:

Food redlining continues thanks to the myth that stores in lower-income communities aren’t as profitable. “The companies couch it in strict business terms,” Fisher says. That makes sense, until you look at the data.

if this is true, and this is a big at this point, a free market solution would be obvious. but when the person saying this is running a non-profit, i get skeptical. given how dynamic the US economy is, there is no reason to rely on existing supermarket co’s to provide service.

i believe ron burkle made a fortune with supermarkets in LA ghettos. So maybe there really is an opportunity here. it would be a shame if the black community in particular let it pass.

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