Comments on: An Exhibit at the Asia Society http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: turbopidar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-205281 turbopidar Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:00:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-205281 <p>My favorite megaupload files search engine is http://megauploadfiles.com it’s the most powerful and easy to use.</p> <p><a href="http://megauploadfiles.com "> megaupload files</a> provides relevant search results.</p> My favorite megaupload files search engine is http://megauploadfiles.com it’s the most powerful and easy to use.

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By: Dharma Queen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85854 Dharma Queen Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:31:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85854 <p>Sakshi, no need to apologize - I think you asked a very important question.</p> Sakshi, no need to apologize – I think you asked a very important question.

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By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85850 sakshi Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:23:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85850 <p>Dharma Queen, I reread my comment, and I feel that it may have come across as confrontational, or as aimed personally at you. I apologize: that was not my intention. I was trying to suggest a thought experiment, in the vein of 'Suppose you were travelling at the speed of light, etc etc...'. I am sorry if it seemed that I was attacking your personal sense of aesthetics.</p> <p>Addia:</p> <blockquote> This is not addressed to me, but my take on this is that she is borrowing from established styles such as miniature painting, which have aesthetics of their own, and not establishing wholly new genre of her own.</blockquote> <p>That is a good point. Again, my remark was not addressed to Dharma Queen, but a general thought experiment, to point out what I feel is a necessary element of subjectivity in art. Feel free to weigh in. :)</p> Dharma Queen, I reread my comment, and I feel that it may have come across as confrontational, or as aimed personally at you. I apologize: that was not my intention. I was trying to suggest a thought experiment, in the vein of ‘Suppose you were travelling at the speed of light, etc etc…’. I am sorry if it seemed that I was attacking your personal sense of aesthetics.

Addia:

This is not addressed to me, but my take on this is that she is borrowing from established styles such as miniature painting, which have aesthetics of their own, and not establishing wholly new genre of her own.

That is a good point. Again, my remark was not addressed to Dharma Queen, but a general thought experiment, to point out what I feel is a necessary element of subjectivity in art. Feel free to weigh in. :)

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By: Dharma Queen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85849 Dharma Queen Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:22:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85849 <p>Red Snapper,</p> <p>I love Guernica. I love it for the reason I love the Shootings of May 3rd - the palpable sense of the horrors of wars. You feel the horror. I don't feel anything when I see the Musharraf piece. It is cold.</p> <p>That said, the two works Another Desi Dude linked to are lovely, whimsical and have an almost Georgia O'Keefish sensuality to them too.</p> Red Snapper,

I love Guernica. I love it for the reason I love the Shootings of May 3rd – the palpable sense of the horrors of wars. You feel the horror. I don’t feel anything when I see the Musharraf piece. It is cold.

That said, the two works Another Desi Dude linked to are lovely, whimsical and have an almost Georgia O’Keefish sensuality to them too.

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By: Red Snapper http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85839 Red Snapper Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:36:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85839 <p>From the Picasso quotation, I had wanted to highlight this line:</p> <blockquote><b>in all my recent works of art, I clearly express my abhorrence of the military caste which has sunk Spain in an ocean of pain and death</b>.</blockquote> <p>And it is the military caste which Saira Wasim expresses her abhorrence of too.</p> From the Picasso quotation, I had wanted to highlight this line:

in all my recent works of art, I clearly express my abhorrence of the military caste which has sunk Spain in an ocean of pain and death.

And it is the military caste which Saira Wasim expresses her abhorrence of too.

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By: Red Snapper http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85838 Red Snapper Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:33:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85838 <p>Great discussion. I was thinking of art that has a polemical purpose, and the piece that came to mind was Picasso's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_%28painting%29">Guernica</a>, full of symbolism and protest and a scream of horror against the depredations of war and the slaughter of the innocents. Picasso said:</p> <blockquote>The Spanish struggle is the fight of reaction against the people, against freedom. My whole life as an artist has been nothing more than a continuous struggle against reaction and the death of art. How could anybody think for a moment that I could be in agreement with reaction and death? ... In the panel on which I am working, which I shall call Guernica, and in all my recent works of art, I clearly express my abhorrence of the military caste which has sunk Spain in an ocean of pain and death.</blockquote> <p>So I don't think that political art full of symbolism and condemnation need nessecarily be one dimensional or limiting. The more I think of Saira Wasim's painting here, the more I wonder of this.</p> Great discussion. I was thinking of art that has a polemical purpose, and the piece that came to mind was Picasso’s Guernica, full of symbolism and protest and a scream of horror against the depredations of war and the slaughter of the innocents. Picasso said:

The Spanish struggle is the fight of reaction against the people, against freedom. My whole life as an artist has been nothing more than a continuous struggle against reaction and the death of art. How could anybody think for a moment that I could be in agreement with reaction and death? … In the panel on which I am working, which I shall call Guernica, and in all my recent works of art, I clearly express my abhorrence of the military caste which has sunk Spain in an ocean of pain and death.

So I don’t think that political art full of symbolism and condemnation need nessecarily be one dimensional or limiting. The more I think of Saira Wasim’s painting here, the more I wonder of this.

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By: Another Desi Dude in Austin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85837 Another Desi Dude in Austin Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:23:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85837 <ul> <li>IMHO, she should remove <i>or change</i> her descriptive notes accompanying the pieces from her website as they tend to take away from her work.</li> </ul>
  • IMHO, she should remove or change her descriptive notes accompanying the pieces from her website as they tend to take away from her work.
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    By: Another Desi Dude in Austin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85835 Another Desi Dude in Austin Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:11:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85835 <p><i>Suppose you came across an Impressionist painting before it was recognized as an important art movement; say you came across a Monet painting scouring the streets of Paris in the 1860s, would you still have known that he was doing something important and doing it well? </i></p> <p>This is not addressed to me, but my take on this is that she is borrowing from established styles such as miniature painting, which have aesthetics of their own, and not establishing wholly new genre of her own. Her works do remind me of Mughal miniatures (which are lovely), but I didn't see this piece of hers as very compelling. IMHO, she should remove her descriptive notes accompanying the pieces from her website as they tend to take away from her work.</p> <p>I took a look at the rest of her work, and I do like it. There is certainly a sort of magic realism to her pieces. I liked a couple of her less representational works : <a href="http://www.sairawasim.com/description/honorkill1.html"> this</a> and <a href="http://www.sairawasim.com/description/mourningrock.html">this</a>.</p> Suppose you came across an Impressionist painting before it was recognized as an important art movement; say you came across a Monet painting scouring the streets of Paris in the 1860s, would you still have known that he was doing something important and doing it well?

    This is not addressed to me, but my take on this is that she is borrowing from established styles such as miniature painting, which have aesthetics of their own, and not establishing wholly new genre of her own. Her works do remind me of Mughal miniatures (which are lovely), but I didn’t see this piece of hers as very compelling. IMHO, she should remove her descriptive notes accompanying the pieces from her website as they tend to take away from her work.

    I took a look at the rest of her work, and I do like it. There is certainly a sort of magic realism to her pieces. I liked a couple of her less representational works : this and this.

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    By: Dharma Queen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85834 Dharma Queen Sun, 10 Sep 2006 20:05:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85834 <p>Sakshi.</p> <p>Well I like to think so. I really don't know. But whether I personally am capable of that kind of discernment is, I think, irrelevant to the distinction I was trying to draw between a purely personal 'liking' for a work of art and the universal human recognition of its greatness (granted, it sometimes takes a very long time for this recognition to materialize).</p> <p>For instance, I know people who regularly say they dislike Shakespeare or Austen or Hardy. None of these people would dispute the greatness of these writers. There's a difference between liking a work of art, and perceiving its power.</p> Sakshi.

    Well I like to think so. I really don’t know. But whether I personally am capable of that kind of discernment is, I think, irrelevant to the distinction I was trying to draw between a purely personal ‘liking’ for a work of art and the universal human recognition of its greatness (granted, it sometimes takes a very long time for this recognition to materialize).

    For instance, I know people who regularly say they dislike Shakespeare or Austen or Hardy. None of these people would dispute the greatness of these writers. There’s a difference between liking a work of art, and perceiving its power.

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    By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/09/09/an_exhibit_at_t/comment-page-1/#comment-85828 sakshi Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:26:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3769#comment-85828 <p>Dharma Queen:</p> <blockquote>I think while liking a work of art may be subjective, its greatness or value are not subjective. For example, I don't much like the Impressionists. But I wouldn't dispute their value in the history of art - I sense that the impressionists were doing something important, different, and doing it very well, in a way that has universality.</blockquote> <p>Suppose you came across an Impressionist painting before it was recognized as an important art movement; say you came across a Monet painting scouring the streets of Paris in the 1860s, would you still have known that he was doing something important and doing it well?</p> Dharma Queen:

    I think while liking a work of art may be subjective, its greatness or value are not subjective. For example, I don’t much like the Impressionists. But I wouldn’t dispute their value in the history of art – I sense that the impressionists were doing something important, different, and doing it very well, in a way that has universality.

    Suppose you came across an Impressionist painting before it was recognized as an important art movement; say you came across a Monet painting scouring the streets of Paris in the 1860s, would you still have known that he was doing something important and doing it well?

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