sorry this convo is getting me loopy.

Brah, and I use the Brah to bond with you, if you’ve been to weddings in which Jatts are there, I hope you noticed most of the people were too busy hugging each other, dancing, and having mock fights that last all of ten minutes to think about the color of the people there.

I know your point, but as with any other group of people, Punjabi people are not on display and “we” don’t hold just one set of views.

I don’t think you were really trying to pin my community to a wall as to what is supposedly believed in the Punjabi commmunity, but there is really a tendency at times to stereotype Punjabis as if any old comment people want to make will fly.

I think it is the same tendency that lets the Sardarji joke run wild in the Desh.

I know, I think, what you’re saying about Colorism being Ill Communication. I would also like to say, stereotyping Punjabi people as fun-loving/hard-drinking/arrogant/belligerent/farmers/hard-working/rude/ect. ect. ect. is all the same thing; stereotypes. I am brown. middle, Desi, brown. Peeps in my fam are on both ends of the spectrum. I am not part of the quarrel as to what is going down regarding color, other than, I love being Punjabi. But not at the expense of being a person first, not an ethnicity.

I am not coming down on you since, the friend of my friend is my friend…and you’ve been to a Punjabi wedding and I can’t be mad at that!

its all good!! this is rambling, but I hope it does also make a point.

Stop stereotpying my People!!!!

Samples of your statements: ‘You lie. All the time.’ ‘You are a nasty piece of work.’ ‘You have a seriously vicious streak.’ These statements, speak for themselves. It is you who have undermined your credibility. If you were really taking the moral high ground, why on earth would you need to voice such ridiculous things about a perfect stranger?

On the two occasions on which we’ve sparred (I do not know how you can have possibly racked up such a long and nefarious record against me, I’ve only been a semi-regular from March/April onward), I have noticed how very easy it is to get you incredibly riled up by simply pointing out the chinks in your moral armour. If you were so certain of your integrity, why on earth would you get so angry? This is only cyber-land, after all.

Both posters 615 and 621 have noted the same tendencies in you as I have. I will refrain from making any comments about your character (and note that the only thing I’ve said about you on this thread is that you seem to be obsessed with colour) because, frankly, I’d prefer not to mimic your paltry example. That said – your bullying and blustering simply don’t phase me. If you need an ideological kick in the pants, dear Jai, I’ll be standing right behind you.

made up.

I’m currently reading “India and Egypt, Children of Kham/Sun” by Sudhansu Kumar Ray (former junior field officer of the crafts museum in New Delhi), written in the 1950s.

He writes; “It was for the first time in the Census (1951) Report for West Bengal that I had to prepare an illustrated note on the Bengali traditional crafts and I got an opportunity to show relations of Bengal with ancient Egypt that were displayed in the common artifacts of both the countries. All these used to be explained as the result of ancient commercial relations that existed between the two countries in the past, but further research and study in the field of folk arts of Bengal revealed to me somsomething more, something which no Indian or Egyptian scholar ever imagined. That was a conquest of Bengal by the hertic kings of Egypt of the XVIIIth dynasty who were driven out of Egypt by the orthodox School of Amon worshippers some time between 1358 and 1355 BC.”

The book seeks to prove by various methods, an ancient cultural, genetic and linguistic tie between Bengal and Egypt.

He says, “Imposition of foreign administrative forms, mass initiation into unfamiliar religions, officialisation of unknown languages and introduction of unaccoustomed art forms by the foreign conquerors from time to time on the local structure of the government, religion, art and specifically on the language of the indigenous people, have brought series of “corruptions” between the modern Bengalis and the ancient dwellers of Bengal. As a result, we are now unable to remember our past history and recognise our true racial identity. Haraprasada Shastri rightly said, ‘Bengalis belong to a reace whose identity is now utterly forgotten.’ “

This thread is getting f-ing obscure