Comments on: A mutiny we’d rather not be associated with (UPDATED) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ken http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-84353 Ken Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:29:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-84353 <p>Thanx for the link David. Well so thats another possible source of money for the fella. But he might have cleaned up his act.. you never know.</p> Thanx for the link David. Well so thats another possible source of money for the fella. But he might have cleaned up his act.. you never know.

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By: David http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-84245 David Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:08:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-84245 <p>http://www.thewilmslowexpress.co.uk/news/s/216/216979_monarch_student_faces_jail_over_card_cloning.html</p> <p>It does not mean that he is a suicide bomber. It does mean however that at least one is prone to get into trouble. It's not unreasonable to assume that they were acting as suicide bombers.</p> http://www.thewilmslowexpress.co.uk/news/s/216/216979_monarch_student_faces_jail_over_card_cloning.html

It does not mean that he is a suicide bomber. It does mean however that at least one is prone to get into trouble. It’s not unreasonable to assume that they were acting as suicide bombers.

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By: Ken http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-83245 Ken Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:11:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-83245 <p>I checked the Manchester University online directory. It lists two people by the name Khurram Zeb, and one of them is a postgraduate student in the School of Computer Science, but it lists no Sohail Ashraf anywhere.</p> <p>I can also confirm that Manchester University did have resits on from the 21st till the 25th of August. So the resit part of their story checks out.</p> <p>The Independent has archived the article linked by Jai and it is now only available to subscribers. But it can be viewed on the website of the Belfast Telegraph <a href="http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=703829">here</a>.</p> <p>Rather than suspicions being raised by the resits, it is the following bit that seems odd to me.</p> <blockquote>Industry sources revealed they booked their flights after the recent security scare began on 10 August, paying £166 each for the day-trip to Malaga. Although they have claimed that the purpose of the visit was to carry out research for a holiday in September, the pair decided to take an evening flight to the resort. It touched down at 7.25pm, leaving them just a few hours in Malaga before they had to check in for the 3am return journey. </blockquote> <p>166 quid (and thats 166 quid each) is a lot of money* to spend just for a recce. It is quite possible that they could afford it due to any number of reasons, a good part-time job, rich parents, a lottery win, etc. etc. And even if everything else is above aboard.. the whole "visiting a place to check it out" is just so absurd!!</p> <p>I'm thinking of going to Hawaii for a vacation, so first I'll fly to Hawaii just to <i>check it out</i>, then I'll fly back home after spending half a <strike>day</strike> night there, and then go back to Hawaii after a week.</p> <p>On second thoughts, I might as well have my holiday in Hawaii on the first trip, since I'm already there !!!</p> I checked the Manchester University online directory. It lists two people by the name Khurram Zeb, and one of them is a postgraduate student in the School of Computer Science, but it lists no Sohail Ashraf anywhere.

I can also confirm that Manchester University did have resits on from the 21st till the 25th of August. So the resit part of their story checks out.

The Independent has archived the article linked by Jai and it is now only available to subscribers. But it can be viewed on the website of the Belfast Telegraph here.

Rather than suspicions being raised by the resits, it is the following bit that seems odd to me.

Industry sources revealed they booked their flights after the recent security scare began on 10 August, paying £166 each for the day-trip to Malaga. Although they have claimed that the purpose of the visit was to carry out research for a holiday in September, the pair decided to take an evening flight to the resort. It touched down at 7.25pm, leaving them just a few hours in Malaga before they had to check in for the 3am return journey.

166 quid (and thats 166 quid each) is a lot of money* to spend just for a recce. It is quite possible that they could afford it due to any number of reasons, a good part-time job, rich parents, a lottery win, etc. etc. And even if everything else is above aboard.. the whole “visiting a place to check it out” is just so absurd!!

I’m thinking of going to Hawaii for a vacation, so first I’ll fly to Hawaii just to check it out, then I’ll fly back home after spending half a day night there, and then go back to Hawaii after a week.

On second thoughts, I might as well have my holiday in Hawaii on the first trip, since I’m already there !!!

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By: sonia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-82443 sonia Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:23:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-82443 <p>ha some publicity stunt that would be! if they're doing exams now..they'd be 'resit' exams! and if you go around asking universities its a well-known fact they don't know much about different department resits..ho ho ho..what a basis for 'suspicion'..</p> ha some publicity stunt that would be! if they’re doing exams now..they’d be ‘resit’ exams! and if you go around asking universities its a well-known fact they don’t know much about different department resits..ho ho ho..what a basis for ‘suspicion’..

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By: Jai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-81887 Jai Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:35:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-81887 <p>The plot thickens even further. The two guys concerned are now being accused of doing the whole thing as some kind of publicity stunt. Their flight times don't correlate with the reasons they gave for their trip to Malaga, and now UMIST is also indirectly casting suspicion on whether they're actually students there; the claim was that they were supposed to be taking exams this week, yet UMIST says they have no knowledge of any such exams currently underway.</p> <p>Full article from <a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article1221658.ece">The Independent here</a>.</p> The plot thickens even further. The two guys concerned are now being accused of doing the whole thing as some kind of publicity stunt. Their flight times don’t correlate with the reasons they gave for their trip to Malaga, and now UMIST is also indirectly casting suspicion on whether they’re actually students there; the claim was that they were supposed to be taking exams this week, yet UMIST says they have no knowledge of any such exams currently underway.

Full article from The Independent here.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-81315 Ennis Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:47:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-81315 <p>Thanks Jai - updated with photo and quotes.</p> Thanks Jai – updated with photo and quotes.

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By: hairy_d http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-81314 hairy_d Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:20:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-81314 <p>thanks for the link jai.</p> <p>i am so mad... dont know at what... the pansies who thought these guys were dodgy... or the airline staff for not havign a backbone... did you hear <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/08/18/doctor-winnipeg.html">about the calgarian doctor </a>who was escorted off his plane.</p> <p>ok.. here's the deal. if those two look dodgy... i must look like f*cking osama to the general public. and lest y'all should think speaking in tamil will get you off the hook , ainna da... think again. it's all the same to the unwashed ear.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxoIJGg9C0">shave your beard or they'll do you like the brazilians and shoot your arse down</a>. :-)</p> thanks for the link jai.

i am so mad… dont know at what… the pansies who thought these guys were dodgy… or the airline staff for not havign a backbone… did you hear about the calgarian doctor who was escorted off his plane.

ok.. here’s the deal. if those two look dodgy… i must look like f*cking osama to the general public. and lest y’all should think speaking in tamil will get you off the hook , ainna da… think again. it’s all the same to the unwashed ear.

shave your beard or they’ll do you like the brazilians and shoot your arse down. :-)

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By: Jai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-81308 Jai Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:51:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-81308 <p><a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17607948%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=exclusive%2d%2dmalaga%2djet%2dmutiny%2dpair%2ds%2dshock%2dat%2dplane%2dejection-name_page.html">Another article on the subject </a>(possibly very similar to the one David's posted, although this has a different, and better, photograph of the 2 guys).</p> Another article on the subject (possibly very similar to the one David’s posted, although this has a different, and better, photograph of the 2 guys).

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By: surya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-81301 surya Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:30:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-81301 <p>Notice that no one has actually heard these guys say that they had 30 minutes to live. The guy in the news report David links to mentions someone else saying that they'd heard this. A slightly different version of events, also on the Beeb:</p> <p>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5278210.stm</p> Notice that no one has actually heard these guys say that they had 30 minutes to live. The guy in the news report David links to mentions someone else saying that they’d heard this. A slightly different version of events, also on the Beeb:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5278210.stm

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By: David http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/08/20/a_mutiny_wed_ra/comment-page-1/#comment-81300 David Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:00:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3709#comment-81300 <p>To me the passengers were justified in leaving the plane. it appears that the two men were overheard saying that they had 30 minutes to live. I would have left. I wouldn't have stayed to see if it was a prank or not.</p> <p>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/5276504.stm</p> To me the passengers were justified in leaving the plane. it appears that the two men were overheard saying that they had 30 minutes to live. I would have left. I wouldn’t have stayed to see if it was a prank or not.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/5276504.stm

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