Comments on: Are more blue helmets the answer? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jilted_manhood http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77641 jilted_manhood Tue, 08 Aug 2006 06:02:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77641 <p>Alright no hostilities. Just enjoy this ode to Nasrallah!</p> <p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WxQcWNHmAo</p> Alright no hostilities. Just enjoy this ode to Nasrallah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WxQcWNHmAo

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By: jilted_manhood http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77634 jilted_manhood Tue, 08 Aug 2006 05:44:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77634 <p>I wish you could tell those who deliberately kill children and then celebrate, from those who go after the child killers and in the process mistakenly kill children but apologize.</p> I wish you could tell those who deliberately kill children and then celebrate, from those who go after the child killers and in the process mistakenly kill children but apologize.

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By: hairy_d http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77633 hairy_d Tue, 08 Aug 2006 05:39:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77633 <p>i wish you wouldnt argue over</p> <p>the body of a dead child.</p> <p>and <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060806/ids_photos_wl/r1180449285.jpg">there are others</a></p> <p>who feel the same.</p> i wish you wouldnt argue over

the body of a dead child.

and there are others

who feel the same.

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By: jilted_manhood http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77628 jilted_manhood Tue, 08 Aug 2006 05:10:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77628 <p>Some facts to share :</p> <p>1. He gets around, from town to town.</p> <p>Here’s the Qana “rescue worker” in the green helmet, photographed extensively in Qana by Adnan Hajj for Reuters, now in Tyre, doing what he does best: making sure wire service photographers get close-up pictures of dead bodies.</p> <p>2. BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) — Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said Monday that one person was killed in an Israeli airstrike on the southern village of Houla, not 40 as he had earlier reported.</p> <p>“The massacre in Houla, it turned out that there was one person killed,” Reuters quoted Siniora as saying. “They thought that the whole building smashed on the heads of about 40 people ... thank God they have been saved.”</p> <p>Siniora had earlier told Arab foreign ministers in Beirut that the attack “was a horrific massacre ... in which more than 40 martyrs were victims of deliberate bombing.”</p> <p>3.</p> <p>LONDON, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Reuters withdrew all 920 photographs by a freelance Lebanese photographer ( Adnan Hajj ) from its database on Monday after an urgent review of his work showed he had altered two images from the conflict between Israel and the armed group Hizbollah.</p> Some facts to share :

1. He gets around, from town to town.

Here’s the Qana “rescue worker” in the green helmet, photographed extensively in Qana by Adnan Hajj for Reuters, now in Tyre, doing what he does best: making sure wire service photographers get close-up pictures of dead bodies.

2. BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) — Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said Monday that one person was killed in an Israeli airstrike on the southern village of Houla, not 40 as he had earlier reported.

“The massacre in Houla, it turned out that there was one person killed,” Reuters quoted Siniora as saying. “They thought that the whole building smashed on the heads of about 40 people … thank God they have been saved.”

Siniora had earlier told Arab foreign ministers in Beirut that the attack “was a horrific massacre … in which more than 40 martyrs were victims of deliberate bombing.”

3.

LONDON, Aug 7 (Reuters) – Reuters withdrew all 920 photographs by a freelance Lebanese photographer ( Adnan Hajj ) from its database on Monday after an urgent review of his work showed he had altered two images from the conflict between Israel and the armed group Hizbollah.

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By: hairy_d http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77623 hairy_d Tue, 08 Aug 2006 04:31:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77623 <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/anomalous/201990028/">a picture</a></p> <p>to share.</p> a picture

to share.

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By: jilted_manhood_on_SM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77612 jilted_manhood_on_SM Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:29:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77612 <p>Missed this one from the news page:</p> <p>All-Female Italian Beach: Muslim Women Only <b>tamasha</b> posted on August 7, 2006, 11:09 am EDT The city council of Riccione, a popular resort on Italy's Adriatic coast about 90 miles east of Florence, has said it is prepared to authorize requests to set up partitions on parts of the shoreline to satisfy requests from the town's growing numbers of Arab and Muslim tourists.</p> <p>If you read the article it's only about Arab Muslim customers. I don't think South Asian Muslims are into gender segregated beaches. Not yet.</p> Missed this one from the news page:

All-Female Italian Beach: Muslim Women Only tamasha posted on August 7, 2006, 11:09 am EDT The city council of Riccione, a popular resort on Italy’s Adriatic coast about 90 miles east of Florence, has said it is prepared to authorize requests to set up partitions on parts of the shoreline to satisfy requests from the town’s growing numbers of Arab and Muslim tourists.

If you read the article it’s only about Arab Muslim customers. I don’t think South Asian Muslims are into gender segregated beaches. Not yet.

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By: jilted_manhood_on_SM http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77610 jilted_manhood_on_SM Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:17:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77610 <p>From SM's strictly desi-only events page ( <i>non-desi-related</i> submissions will be deleted ):</p> <p>First it was this:</p> <p>Sat Jul. 29, New York Alwan for the Arts Benefit Concert for Lebanon & Palestine tamasha posted on July 25, 2006, 10:31 pm EDT A concert of Lebanese resistance music featuring songs by Fairouz & Marcel Khalifeh. Donations: $20 / $30 / $40. All proceeds will go to humanitarian relief organizations.</p> <p>When: Sat, July 29, 2006, 8:00pm Where: Alwan For the Arts, 16 Beaver St, 4th Floor, New York</p> <p>then came this :</p> <p>I Come in Peace - Dean Obeidallah tamasha posted on August 7, 2006, 5:57 pm EDT 8/11,12,16,19,23.What is it like to be an <b>Arab-American</b> w/a Muslim last name after 9/11? Why did 9/11 transform Dean from a typical white guy to Super <b>Arab</b>? Is the Bush administration listening to his phone calls?Find out the answers to these questions and more in Dean's comedic one man show "I Come in Peace."</p> <p>When: Mon, August 7, 2006, 9:00pm Where: Flea Theater, 41 White Street, between Broadway and Church Street, New York</p> <p>When I had asked about the former no one from SM had explained. I am sure none will now. There are so many great events from which desis might benefit, that don't get listed here just because they are not desi. But even mediocre Arab acts make it here. Why is that so? So why do I post this here and not take it to the SM interns? That's because I never hear back from them but the <i>people</i>should know. Sorry for hijacking your thread for a little bit, but couldn't help it. Tamasha is making a big <i>tamasha</i> of your desi-only events page ( obviously with your tacit approval ).</p> From SM’s strictly desi-only events page ( non-desi-related submissions will be deleted ):

First it was this:

Sat Jul. 29, New York Alwan for the Arts Benefit Concert for Lebanon & Palestine tamasha posted on July 25, 2006, 10:31 pm EDT A concert of Lebanese resistance music featuring songs by Fairouz & Marcel Khalifeh. Donations: $20 / $30 / $40. All proceeds will go to humanitarian relief organizations.

When: Sat, July 29, 2006, 8:00pm Where: Alwan For the Arts, 16 Beaver St, 4th Floor, New York

then came this :

I Come in Peace – Dean Obeidallah tamasha posted on August 7, 2006, 5:57 pm EDT 8/11,12,16,19,23.What is it like to be an Arab-American w/a Muslim last name after 9/11? Why did 9/11 transform Dean from a typical white guy to Super Arab? Is the Bush administration listening to his phone calls?Find out the answers to these questions and more in Dean’s comedic one man show “I Come in Peace.”

When: Mon, August 7, 2006, 9:00pm Where: Flea Theater, 41 White Street, between Broadway and Church Street, New York

When I had asked about the former no one from SM had explained. I am sure none will now. There are so many great events from which desis might benefit, that don’t get listed here just because they are not desi. But even mediocre Arab acts make it here. Why is that so? So why do I post this here and not take it to the SM interns? That’s because I never hear back from them but the peopleshould know. Sorry for hijacking your thread for a little bit, but couldn’t help it. Tamasha is making a big tamasha of your desi-only events page ( obviously with your tacit approval ).

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77123 Manju Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:59:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77123 <p>RC:</p> <p>I think cohen's 1st op-ed (israel is a mistake) was misunderstood as anti-israel. if you read it carefully he's supporing israel while acknowledging that a religious democracy is inherently contradictory and that palestinians have been displaced and finally that it is simply impractical to give a religious minority its own state in a region not known for tolerance on a whole plethora of issues.</p> <p>You're right, he's acknowledging the complexity of the issue. after all, if israel is a mistake (b/c it's a religious state) then so is saudi arabia, iran, jordan...</p> RC:

I think cohen’s 1st op-ed (israel is a mistake) was misunderstood as anti-israel. if you read it carefully he’s supporing israel while acknowledging that a religious democracy is inherently contradictory and that palestinians have been displaced and finally that it is simply impractical to give a religious minority its own state in a region not known for tolerance on a whole plethora of issues.

You’re right, he’s acknowledging the complexity of the issue. after all, if israel is a mistake (b/c it’s a religious state) then so is saudi arabia, iran, jordan…

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77099 RC Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:24:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77099 <p>Manju, Thanks for your explanation. What surprised me is that Cohen's first Op-Ed comes out and calls Israel a "mistake" and then in the next article he says that the whole world is anti-Israel. Then he goes on and says</p> <blockquote>The world -- the United Nations -- created Israel. It ought to safeguard it. It is the only way. </blockquote> <p>Well, the UN couldnt wipe its a@@. It cant do #$%@ unless the real powers tell it to do. Isnt it obvious that if the US had put pressure on Israel they would have been ready for a cease-fire. Besides UN is full of nations who dont agree with the existence of Israel on an ideological standpoint.</p> <p>I do give him credit for trying to represent the complexity of the situation, but his approach is naive, IMO.</p> Manju, Thanks for your explanation. What surprised me is that Cohen’s first Op-Ed comes out and calls Israel a “mistake” and then in the next article he says that the whole world is anti-Israel. Then he goes on and says

The world — the United Nations — created Israel. It ought to safeguard it. It is the only way.

Well, the UN couldnt wipe its a@@. It cant do #$%@ unless the real powers tell it to do. Isnt it obvious that if the US had put pressure on Israel they would have been ready for a cease-fire. Besides UN is full of nations who dont agree with the existence of Israel on an ideological standpoint.

I do give him credit for trying to represent the complexity of the situation, but his approach is naive, IMO.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/30/are_more_blue_h/comment-page-2/#comment-77059 Manju Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:08:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3636#comment-77059 <p>RC:</p> <blockquote>I read but didnt quite fully understand, what Richard Cohen meant with that Op-Ed comparing Mel Gibson thing to the latest conflict. Can anyone explain it to me?</blockquote> <p>Strangly, <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=RKW5RKLJTKZ4JQFIQMFSFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/opinion/2006/08/02/do0203.xml">someone coming from a very different </a>place from cohen explains it.</p> <p><a href="http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/08/in_defense_of_g.html">via andrew sullivan:</a></p> <p>"If we peel back the layers of the Gibson fiasco, we see something much darker and more troubling, not about him - he's just a fool - but about the society which needs to produce a scapegoat in him. Dangerously worded as it was, Gibson's drunken comment was, it could reasonably be argued, a statement against the arrogance of the Israeli military: "They started all the wars in the world." Isn't it that which is making America call for his head? ... There's a problem here. Jews, and by extension Israelis, are un-insultable in ethnic terms, though everybody else is. I know it's hard to tell a people who saw six million of their number murdered to turn the other cheek, but turn the other cheek they must, unless they want to present themselves as the great unimpeachable race apart."</p> <p>Bill Maher sums it up (again, via andrew sullivan):</p> <p>As I watch so much of the world ask Israel for restraint in a way no other country would (Can you imagine what Bush would do if a terrorist organization took over Canada and was lobbing missiles into Montana, Maine and Illinois?) - and, by the way, does anyone ever ask Hezbollah for restraint. you know, like, please stop firing your rockets aimed PURPOSEFULLY at civilians? - it strikes me that the world IS Mel Gibson.</p> RC:

I read but didnt quite fully understand, what Richard Cohen meant with that Op-Ed comparing Mel Gibson thing to the latest conflict. Can anyone explain it to me?

Strangly, someone coming from a very different place from cohen explains it.

via andrew sullivan:

“If we peel back the layers of the Gibson fiasco, we see something much darker and more troubling, not about him – he’s just a fool – but about the society which needs to produce a scapegoat in him. Dangerously worded as it was, Gibson’s drunken comment was, it could reasonably be argued, a statement against the arrogance of the Israeli military: “They started all the wars in the world.” Isn’t it that which is making America call for his head? … There’s a problem here. Jews, and by extension Israelis, are un-insultable in ethnic terms, though everybody else is. I know it’s hard to tell a people who saw six million of their number murdered to turn the other cheek, but turn the other cheek they must, unless they want to present themselves as the great unimpeachable race apart.”

Bill Maher sums it up (again, via andrew sullivan):

As I watch so much of the world ask Israel for restraint in a way no other country would (Can you imagine what Bush would do if a terrorist organization took over Canada and was lobbing missiles into Montana, Maine and Illinois?) – and, by the way, does anyone ever ask Hezbollah for restraint. you know, like, please stop firing your rockets aimed PURPOSEFULLY at civilians? – it strikes me that the world IS Mel Gibson.

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