Comments on: Sonia, Congress Stop Jag Mundhra Biopic http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Palavi singh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-77875 Palavi singh Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:50:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-77875 <p>I think people who are respectable should get their bit in the Movies. Sonia and Mundhra both are resepctable in their fieldsd but the problem lies with the girl he chose to do the role of Sonia in the movie. She has avery different kind of background an dmay be Congress is apprehensive about her tainted background bouncing on movie by Mundhra. May be Mundhra talks top Congress and then decided about the movie and i feel he will get the permission to make it, with Congress Support.</p> <p>Best of Luck to Jag mohan Mundhra for the Movie.</p> I think people who are respectable should get their bit in the Movies. Sonia and Mundhra both are resepctable in their fieldsd but the problem lies with the girl he chose to do the role of Sonia in the movie. She has avery different kind of background an dmay be Congress is apprehensive about her tainted background bouncing on movie by Mundhra. May be Mundhra talks top Congress and then decided about the movie and i feel he will get the permission to make it, with Congress Support.

Best of Luck to Jag mohan Mundhra for the Movie.

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By: Jai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74748 Jai Sun, 23 Jul 2006 12:12:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74748 <p>As a side-note, <b>Amardeep</b>, I read your quote in Friday's "The Times" newspaper here in the UK regarding Sonia pulling the plug on the biopic. Congratulations on getting referenced in such a prestigious British newspaper -- very proud of you ;)</p> As a side-note, Amardeep, I read your quote in Friday’s “The Times” newspaper here in the UK regarding Sonia pulling the plug on the biopic. Congratulations on getting referenced in such a prestigious British newspaper — very proud of you ;)

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By: Matahari http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74717 Matahari Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:29:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74717 <p>Jag Mundhra is most famous for his sleazy smut films. I have seen numerous flicks directed by him and produced by Anand Amritraj that were raunchy and meant for the late nite skin-a-max and European cable audiences. Naturally, I was a big fan of his in my teenage years. He is one of the greatest exports out of IIT Madras.</p> <p>I am baffled that with these credentials, he is making a biopic of Sonia! What is he going to depict - the privileged grandson of India's first and most famous prime minster being seduced by an average looking au pair in England? No wonder Sonia recoiled. In many ways it was fitting that a B-grade soft porn director decided to cast the biopic of a B-grade uneducated Italian au pair. Alas, it is being banned.</p> Jag Mundhra is most famous for his sleazy smut films. I have seen numerous flicks directed by him and produced by Anand Amritraj that were raunchy and meant for the late nite skin-a-max and European cable audiences. Naturally, I was a big fan of his in my teenage years. He is one of the greatest exports out of IIT Madras.

I am baffled that with these credentials, he is making a biopic of Sonia! What is he going to depict – the privileged grandson of India’s first and most famous prime minster being seduced by an average looking au pair in England? No wonder Sonia recoiled. In many ways it was fitting that a B-grade soft porn director decided to cast the biopic of a B-grade uneducated Italian au pair. Alas, it is being banned.

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By: Jatin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74716 Jatin Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:27:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74716 <p>Congress has a habit of banning and trying to control stuff, they are worse than BJP.</p> Congress has a habit of banning and trying to control stuff, they are worse than BJP.

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By: karishma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74621 karishma Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:53:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74621 <p>NEWBIE: The fact that Congress is censoring something is not really news. They have been in power for about 45 of the 55 years since the British left and most undemocratic actions have been taken by them including the Emergency.</p> <p>I couldn't have said it better than that. Thanks. Personally, they must take the prize for the most corrupt party in India's brief history. Though the competition is fierce.</p> <p>I'd love to go and see for myself how much things have changed. Of course this change mainly applies to roughly half or less than half the population.</p> NEWBIE: The fact that Congress is censoring something is not really news. They have been in power for about 45 of the 55 years since the British left and most undemocratic actions have been taken by them including the Emergency.

I couldn’t have said it better than that. Thanks. Personally, they must take the prize for the most corrupt party in India’s brief history. Though the competition is fierce.

I’d love to go and see for myself how much things have changed. Of course this change mainly applies to roughly half or less than half the population.

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By: newbie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74570 newbie Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:09:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74570 <p>Amardeep: Your general point is well taken but there is no need to provide balance as one is not needed in this story. If a BJP leader is involved in a communal activity, would you provide balance and say well back in so & so year, Congress was involved in the said activity - just to provide balance? BJP has its set of issues but in this blog entry you have needlessly mentioned them. Most people who are SM blog-literate would know that BJP has had numerous issues when it comes to limiting speech. If you wanted to provide balance, you could have mentioned a more recent ban on Da Vinci Code in various states by so called progressive forces.</p> <p>I think your intent was good. All i am saying is that there is no need to have a knee jerk tendency to include BJP in every story.</p> <p>As a note, i think India is not ready for unlimited free speech, especially when political parties use these for their own purposes to cause mayhem. E.g. Danish Cartoons and MF Hussein paitings. I guess we have to live with banning these type of speeches untill both the left and the right can come to an understanding that no speech should be censored regardless of the hurt it causes to a section of people. Ain't happening anytime soon.</p> Amardeep: Your general point is well taken but there is no need to provide balance as one is not needed in this story. If a BJP leader is involved in a communal activity, would you provide balance and say well back in so & so year, Congress was involved in the said activity – just to provide balance? BJP has its set of issues but in this blog entry you have needlessly mentioned them. Most people who are SM blog-literate would know that BJP has had numerous issues when it comes to limiting speech. If you wanted to provide balance, you could have mentioned a more recent ban on Da Vinci Code in various states by so called progressive forces.

I think your intent was good. All i am saying is that there is no need to have a knee jerk tendency to include BJP in every story.

As a note, i think India is not ready for unlimited free speech, especially when political parties use these for their own purposes to cause mayhem. E.g. Danish Cartoons and MF Hussein paitings. I guess we have to live with banning these type of speeches untill both the left and the right can come to an understanding that no speech should be censored regardless of the hurt it causes to a section of people. Ain’t happening anytime soon.

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By: Amardeep http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74520 Amardeep Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:27:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74520 <blockquote>Maybe this post does not belong here. My main point is that no Indian political party is unscathed when it comes to taking retrograde actions in context of a progressive democratic state. </blockquote> <p>That was my point too. I only inserted the BJP to provide balance.</p> <blockquote>The fact that Congress is censoring something is not really news.</blockquote> <p>No, it's not new. But I think as Indian values have changed in the last 10-15 years, we've seen a growing gap between ordinary people's standards and the government's standards for freedom of expression. Most of the media landscape is now pretty open, so when you see these eruptions of censorship it does seem like "news."</p> Maybe this post does not belong here. My main point is that no Indian political party is unscathed when it comes to taking retrograde actions in context of a progressive democratic state.

That was my point too. I only inserted the BJP to provide balance.

The fact that Congress is censoring something is not really news.

No, it’s not new. But I think as Indian values have changed in the last 10-15 years, we’ve seen a growing gap between ordinary people’s standards and the government’s standards for freedom of expression. Most of the media landscape is now pretty open, so when you see these eruptions of censorship it does seem like “news.”

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By: newbie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74516 newbie Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:19:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74516 <p>"(And it's not just a Congress Party thing; the BJP were no slouches when it came to censoring views they weren't happy about.)"</p> <p>I think the sentence would read better if it was stated thus: And it's not just a BJP thing; the Congress Party were no slouches when it came to censoring views they weren't happy about.</p> <p>Ofcourse it would not make sense for this post but generally Congress is thought of as a progressive party in the English media - In India and abroad (except perhaps for The Pioneer newspaper) whereas BJP is said to have all the qualities which are inmical to a democratic state. It is strange that you had to insert BJP's name even here when the post is about Sonia. Maybe you did it subconsciously. If some of the American bloggers stayed in hinterland of India, they would know that this secular/communal debate has reached to state of utter rubbishness. Each party now simply targets a religious or cast votebank - and this includes the left. Case in point - a CPI(M) leader while addressing a Muslim organization suspects Shiv Sena's hand in the blast.</p> <p>From Hindustan Times (7/19): Senior CPI(M) leader on Wednesday suggested a probe to ascertain if Mumbai train blasts were set off by Hindu fundamentalists as BJP and Shiv Sena were fast losing their base in Maharashtra. "There is a need to probe this angle," CPI(M) politburo member and West Bengal's ruling Left Front chairman Biman Bose said in Kolkata.</p> <p>Maybe this post does not belong here. My main point is that no Indian political party is unscathed when it comes to taking retrograde actions in context of a progressive democratic state. The fact that Congress is censoring something is not really news. They have been in power for about 45 of the 55 years since the British left and most undemocratic actions have been taken by them including the Emergency.</p> “(And it’s not just a Congress Party thing; the BJP were no slouches when it came to censoring views they weren’t happy about.)”

I think the sentence would read better if it was stated thus: And it’s not just a BJP thing; the Congress Party were no slouches when it came to censoring views they weren’t happy about.

Ofcourse it would not make sense for this post but generally Congress is thought of as a progressive party in the English media – In India and abroad (except perhaps for The Pioneer newspaper) whereas BJP is said to have all the qualities which are inmical to a democratic state. It is strange that you had to insert BJP’s name even here when the post is about Sonia. Maybe you did it subconsciously. If some of the American bloggers stayed in hinterland of India, they would know that this secular/communal debate has reached to state of utter rubbishness. Each party now simply targets a religious or cast votebank – and this includes the left. Case in point – a CPI(M) leader while addressing a Muslim organization suspects Shiv Sena’s hand in the blast.

From Hindustan Times (7/19): Senior CPI(M) leader on Wednesday suggested a probe to ascertain if Mumbai train blasts were set off by Hindu fundamentalists as BJP and Shiv Sena were fast losing their base in Maharashtra. “There is a need to probe this angle,” CPI(M) politburo member and West Bengal’s ruling Left Front chairman Biman Bose said in Kolkata.

Maybe this post does not belong here. My main point is that no Indian political party is unscathed when it comes to taking retrograde actions in context of a progressive democratic state. The fact that Congress is censoring something is not really news. They have been in power for about 45 of the 55 years since the British left and most undemocratic actions have been taken by them including the Emergency.

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By: Whose God is it anyways? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74509 Whose God is it anyways? Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:46:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74509 <p>"The guy may have made a decent biopic which might have even added to the halo that Mrs. Gandhi has created for herself, thanks to her sycophants."</p> <p>while i don't condone censorship, this might turn out to be one of this lame congress government's most inspired policies. the cult of sonia gandhi is already weird and dangerous enough.:)</p> “The guy may have made a decent biopic which might have even added to the halo that Mrs. Gandhi has created for herself, thanks to her sycophants.”

while i don’t condone censorship, this might turn out to be one of this lame congress government’s most inspired policies. the cult of sonia gandhi is already weird and dangerous enough.:)

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By: Mr Kobayashi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/07/20/sonia_congress/comment-page-1/#comment-74508 Mr Kobayashi Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:33:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3603#comment-74508 <blockquote>Censorship is always bullshit</blockquote> <p>That's not true. There is no society in which censorship does not exist. What we find troubling is an excess of it, what Amardeep calls "knee-jerk censoriousness."</p> <p>Without censors, there would be hardcore on the after-school special, and even the best newspapers would be overrun by Nazi nutters.</p> Censorship is always bullshit

That’s not true. There is no society in which censorship does not exist. What we find troubling is an excess of it, what Amardeep calls “knee-jerk censoriousness.”

Without censors, there would be hardcore on the after-school special, and even the best newspapers would be overrun by Nazi nutters.

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