Comments on: In Captivity http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: sashi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70284 sashi Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:17:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70284 <p>Disturbing news, yes, but not very suprising really for those who are familiar with the kafkaesque hold "conservative" clerical wing has over the intelligence, courts and legal affairs pie of the Iranian goverment. Also, since the desi-Persian connection has always been historically present - as I was reading Ghalib last night, Ghalib began his literary production in Persian - I am glad SM has brought this to the larger desi attention. Let's hope he comes out of Ervin, without too much damage.</p> <p>PS: I had actually encountered Mr. Jehanbegloo previously this summer, via this exchange of letters: http://www.opendemocracy.net/democracy-letterstoamericans/article_2067.jsp on the "American Dream".</p> Disturbing news, yes, but not very suprising really for those who are familiar with the kafkaesque hold “conservative” clerical wing has over the intelligence, courts and legal affairs pie of the Iranian goverment. Also, since the desi-Persian connection has always been historically present – as I was reading Ghalib last night, Ghalib began his literary production in Persian – I am glad SM has brought this to the larger desi attention. Let’s hope he comes out of Ervin, without too much damage.

PS: I had actually encountered Mr. Jehanbegloo previously this summer, via this exchange of letters: http://www.opendemocracy.net/democracy-letterstoamericans/article_2067.jsp on the “American Dream”.

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By: sashi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70283 sashi Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:16:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70283 <p>Disturbing news, yes, but not very suprising really for those who are familiar with the kafkaesque hold "conservative" clerical wing has over the intelligence, courts and legal affairs pie of the Iranian goverment. Also, since the desi-Persian connection has always been historically present - as I was reading Ghalib last night, Ghalib began his literary production in Persian - I am glad SM has brought this to the larger desi attention. Let's hope he comes out of Ervin, without too much damage.</p> <p>PS: I had actually encountered Mr. Jehanbegloo previously this summer, via <a>this exchange of letters</a> on the "American Dream".</p> Disturbing news, yes, but not very suprising really for those who are familiar with the kafkaesque hold “conservative” clerical wing has over the intelligence, courts and legal affairs pie of the Iranian goverment. Also, since the desi-Persian connection has always been historically present – as I was reading Ghalib last night, Ghalib began his literary production in Persian – I am glad SM has brought this to the larger desi attention. Let’s hope he comes out of Ervin, without too much damage.

PS: I had actually encountered Mr. Jehanbegloo previously this summer, via this exchange of letters on the “American Dream”.

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By: badmash http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70274 badmash Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:20:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70274 <blockquote>The fact that Jahanbegloo isn't a terrorist trying to blow things up possibly disqualifies him as well from the elusive concept of newsowrthiness. </blockquote> <p>Yes! In fact he's the exact opposite - a distinguished Middle Eastern intellectual with a conciliatory approach. Interesting to compare his political marginalization with Tariq Ramadan's. Folks like this need to get a little more air time in the media!</p> The fact that Jahanbegloo isn’t a terrorist trying to blow things up possibly disqualifies him as well from the elusive concept of newsowrthiness.

Yes! In fact he’s the exact opposite – a distinguished Middle Eastern intellectual with a conciliatory approach. Interesting to compare his political marginalization with Tariq Ramadan’s. Folks like this need to get a little more air time in the media!

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By: oreganogypsy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70269 oreganogypsy Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:08:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70269 <p>I find it absolutely incredible that, as a Canadian journalist, I have seen very little of this story in the mainstream (read -- CANWEST) daily news and on the wires. We can't even argue that the issue is somehow too 'international' for local audiences - our news is regularly peppered with, for example, stories of Palestinian abductions of Isreali soldiers and citizens. Not that these aren't important stories to report on continually (with our trademark Western bias of course)...but come ON. Do our agenda's have to be so obvious? We are so blatant about the fact that news is created by and for an "in" group. Any news that doesn't fit in this and into the media's disgustingly obvious corporate agenda gets axed right away, if it's even considered at all. I see it on a daily basis although I haven't fully yet figured out who is considered newsworthy and who isn't. Somehow though? I don't think my demographic is. The fact that Jahanbegloo isn't a terrorist trying to blow things up possibly disqualifies him as well from the elusive concept of newsowrthiness. Neha, thanks for this story.</p> I find it absolutely incredible that, as a Canadian journalist, I have seen very little of this story in the mainstream (read — CANWEST) daily news and on the wires. We can’t even argue that the issue is somehow too ‘international’ for local audiences – our news is regularly peppered with, for example, stories of Palestinian abductions of Isreali soldiers and citizens. Not that these aren’t important stories to report on continually (with our trademark Western bias of course)…but come ON. Do our agenda’s have to be so obvious? We are so blatant about the fact that news is created by and for an “in” group. Any news that doesn’t fit in this and into the media’s disgustingly obvious corporate agenda gets axed right away, if it’s even considered at all. I see it on a daily basis although I haven’t fully yet figured out who is considered newsworthy and who isn’t. Somehow though? I don’t think my demographic is. The fact that Jahanbegloo isn’t a terrorist trying to blow things up possibly disqualifies him as well from the elusive concept of newsowrthiness. Neha, thanks for this story.

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By: Neha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70268 Neha Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:07:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70268 <p><b>Mirax</b> - Is the snark necessary? I assure you that the weight of Jahanbegloo's situation is not lost on any of us. If you are confused as to why this specific blog did not post of Jahanbegloo's arrest in May then I can refer you to a crucial portion in our <b>FAQ</b>s:</p> <blockquote>Why does this blog zero in on the desi angle of everything you post? This is a focused, cultural interest blog, not a general-purpose site. It brings readers together for that exact reason.</blockquote> <p>Peace and thanks for the links.</p> Mirax – Is the snark necessary? I assure you that the weight of Jahanbegloo’s situation is not lost on any of us. If you are confused as to why this specific blog did not post of Jahanbegloo’s arrest in May then I can refer you to a crucial portion in our FAQs:

Why does this blog zero in on the desi angle of everything you post? This is a focused, cultural interest blog, not a general-purpose site. It brings readers together for that exact reason.

Peace and thanks for the links.

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By: badmash http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70257 badmash Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:22:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70257 <blockquote>How lucky for him that you found the 'desi' connection after two months and deigned to make the effort!</blockquote> <p>If you want to have a constructive discussion, leave the sarcasm at the door. Thank you!</p> How lucky for him that you found the ‘desi’ connection after two months and deigned to make the effort!

If you want to have a constructive discussion, leave the sarcasm at the door. Thank you!

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By: mirax http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70256 mirax Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:16:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70256 <p>I may be doing the mutineers an injustice but this is the first time that you are blogging about Dr Jahanbegloo right?</p> <p>How lucky for him that you found the 'desi' connection after two months and deigned to make the effort!</p> <p>Anyways here's the <a href="http://raminj.iranianstudies.ca/">blog </a>set up to keep track of just this issue.</p> <p>Here's something the man <a href="http://www.iranproject.info/articles/article.asp?Key=20">wrote</a> , so that you can get an insight into what sort of man is deemed an enemy of the Iranian state.</p> <p>I was glad to read that a petition had been signed by nearly a hundred muslims and arabs - good for them but one would hope that the Iranian response is somewhat more forthcoming than similar appeals signed by such as Juan Cole (who took so much effort to explain away and excuse the Iranian president's threat to wipe out Israel) and <b>many hundreds </b>of N American academics and luminaries. I saw one petition addressed to the EU, asking it to intervene. This was signed by about 40 French academics (there is a convoluted 'desi' angle but pleasure of discovering it should be yours) and other persons. What alarmed me was that the very first signatory was by a Bahai community rep - the mullahs had better not see that one!- and I fervently hope that for his own sake, Dr Jahanbegloo is muslim.</p> <blockquote>>>But there is resistance among some of those who could have the greatest sway on Tehran -- Muslim scholars. "Some people are reluctant to publicize human rights in Iran when Iran is facing pressure on the nuclear issues," said Mansour Bonakdarian, who teaches history at Hofstra University. "They are afraid that too much discussion of human rights in Iran could be exploited by the U.S. and its allies.">></blockquote> <p>That's a relief! Wouldn't want said <i>reluctant </i>muslim scholars to be confused with real intellectuals.</p> I may be doing the mutineers an injustice but this is the first time that you are blogging about Dr Jahanbegloo right?

How lucky for him that you found the ‘desi’ connection after two months and deigned to make the effort!

Anyways here’s the blog set up to keep track of just this issue.

Here’s something the man wrote , so that you can get an insight into what sort of man is deemed an enemy of the Iranian state.

I was glad to read that a petition had been signed by nearly a hundred muslims and arabs – good for them but one would hope that the Iranian response is somewhat more forthcoming than similar appeals signed by such as Juan Cole (who took so much effort to explain away and excuse the Iranian president’s threat to wipe out Israel) and many hundreds of N American academics and luminaries. I saw one petition addressed to the EU, asking it to intervene. This was signed by about 40 French academics (there is a convoluted ‘desi’ angle but pleasure of discovering it should be yours) and other persons. What alarmed me was that the very first signatory was by a Bahai community rep – the mullahs had better not see that one!- and I fervently hope that for his own sake, Dr Jahanbegloo is muslim.

>>But there is resistance among some of those who could have the greatest sway on Tehran — Muslim scholars. “Some people are reluctant to publicize human rights in Iran when Iran is facing pressure on the nuclear issues,” said Mansour Bonakdarian, who teaches history at Hofstra University. “They are afraid that too much discussion of human rights in Iran could be exploited by the U.S. and its allies.”>>

That’s a relief! Wouldn’t want said reluctant muslim scholars to be confused with real intellectuals.

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By: badmash http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70166 badmash Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:06:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70166 <p>How surreal this is. The contradiction is so blatant -- we don't recognize his status as a Canadian, but we suspect that he's working for the Canadian government in the capacity of a citizen. Let's hope that in some way Ahmedinejad's need of working relations with the EU augurs better for Jahanbegloo than it did for Kazemi under Khatemi's govt!</p> How surreal this is. The contradiction is so blatant — we don’t recognize his status as a Canadian, but we suspect that he’s working for the Canadian government in the capacity of a citizen. Let’s hope that in some way Ahmedinejad’s need of working relations with the EU augurs better for Jahanbegloo than it did for Kazemi under Khatemi’s govt!

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By: fatmuttony http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70143 fatmuttony Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:23:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70143 <p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahra_Kazemi">Zahra Kazemi</a> story made for disturbing reading. I hope Ramin Jahanbegloo 's case has a less disgusting resolution.</p> The Zahra Kazemi story made for disturbing reading. I hope Ramin Jahanbegloo ‘s case has a less disgusting resolution.

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By: Payal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/28/renowned_irania/comment-page-1/#comment-70132 Payal Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:21:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3528#comment-70132 <p>Good post Neha, this reminds me of the memoir I read recently titled - Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi. Apparently it's not just Canada-Iran relations, but entire Western-Iran relations that are rough all together.</p> Good post Neha, this reminds me of the memoir I read recently titled – Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi. Apparently it’s not just Canada-Iran relations, but entire Western-Iran relations that are rough all together.

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