Comments on: Fear of a brown planet, 21 Billion strong

By: Janeofalltrades

Janeofalltrades — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:59:43 +0000

I'm sure you didn't think it through when you said hospitals should turn away birthing mothers.

I didn't. Go back and reread.

You think illegal immigrants don't work?

We are simply going in circles.

I don't think I'd trust someone who has so little compassion at EVERY level...

You don't know me from shit where is the concept of trust coming from. I'm confused.

Sorry, i know i am an a-hole

At least you admit it. I don't consider any of your emotional rants worthy of response because you choose to personally attack me.

but seeing you recommend fur just seemed to be of a piece with your position on this thread.

This post is about Gibson on SM. If you have something to say about a post on my blog I suggest you post there and don't treadjack here. And may I suggest get a grip on yourself. Jeez.

By: Al Mujahid for debauchery

Al Mujahid for debauchery — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:48:15 +0000

Federal Tax dollars spent: 18.0%: Defense 21.8%: Social Security 11.4%: Medicare 7.6%: Medicaid Interest: 7.1% Veterans: 2.6% Welfare:0.8% IRS: 0.5% Foreign Aid: 0.8% Education: 2.5% Justice: 1.1% Various Federal Agencies: 22%

By: PinkyLovesBunty

PinkyLovesBunty — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:47:29 +0000

Al mujahid, “personal” is important – as I said, not trying to offend, just hoping for some self-reflection from such posters. This must be examined when dissected one’s views – how can you separate the two? This is the fundamental hypocrisy on much of the right that must be unwound.

By: sleepy

sleepy — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:43:25 +0000

Taz, I’m kinda sorta working on being a doctor, does that count? We had a lecture on this, and the only clear answer the prof gave was that you couldn’t turn away a person if it was an emergency case (childbirth counts). He hasn’t been practicing for a long time now, just teaching and he told us it would probably be explained better later. So, I give a half-assed answer

By: Al Mujahid for debauchery

Al Mujahid for debauchery — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:39:57 +0000

Lets keep it civil here. We should all refrain from getting personal.

By: Al Mujahid for debauchery

Al Mujahid for debauchery — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:37:30 +0000

Before some moron brings up Medicare, only people over 65 (in most cases) are eligible for Medicare.

By: taz

taz — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:36:30 +0000

paging a..doctor?

Isn't it unethical for doctors to turn away patients?

By: Zal

Zal — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:35:08 +0000

What's next? Someone saying the 9/11 widows are enjoying their husbands deaths?

Oh, wait...

By: Al Mujahid for Debauchery

Al Mujahid for Debauchery — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:34:11 +0000

Nice try, Mujahidi. Actually the US goverment (ie taxpayers) pays for medicaid, lock, stock, and barrel.

No, actually you are wrong. You need to be either a US citizen or a permanent resident in the United States to get medicaid. So illegal Mexican aliens are not eligible for Medicaid. Of course if they have kids who are US citizens, they would be eligible for Medicaid, but the illegal alien parents would still not be eligible.

By: sleepy

sleepy — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:27:40 +0000

“Simple. Turn them back from the hospitals. When some women end up giving birth next to a garbage dump, screaming, with placenta strewn everywhere, others will learn a lesson that the State will not support their ways. When some un-insured heart-attack patients are turned back because of lack of immigration documents, the rest will simply go back with the message that America is not good for free-loading anymore”

As hard as I’m trying, I can’t get over that image. And as to the argument that women who can’t afford healthcare shouldn’t have children…eugenics anyone? Health insurance is terribly expensive and many middle class families (yes the ones with both parents present)can’t afford them. My parents couldn’t afford it and I got through a lot of infections using antibiotics touted back from India. I guess they shouldn’t have had kids though. And when did government get detached from compassion? At its best, government would be an expression of community and a community cares for its own. And yes illegals and the poor are also part of our own. Hell, half of the houses being built right this second in Texas are being built by illegals. Instead of turning them away from schools and advocating they have their children in alleyways, how about turning them away from jobs? That would certainly work better no? Oh but right, the houses wouldn’t be so goddamn affordable if we did that.