Comments on: The Bilderberg Group is even more secretive than our blog http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mildu Wolf http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-216798 Mildu Wolf Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:05:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-216798 <p>If it has to be done in secret then their up to no good! Why not end the conspiracy theorists and come clean with the truth.... Or just keep it secret and start a revolution... It is coming and people need to wake up or end up in a fema camp sniffing gas>...............Not too long to go now.</p> If it has to be done in secret then their up to no good! Why not end the conspiracy theorists and come clean with the truth…. Or just keep it secret and start a revolution… It is coming and people need to wake up or end up in a fema camp sniffing gas>……………Not too long to go now.

]]> By: Scout http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67396 Scout Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:12:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67396 <p>Question for Post#7: Is your comment related to the "Bilderberg Group" post, or are you seeking answers?</p> <p>The sequence of events (or reasons) for the Sino-Indian war of 1962:</p> <p>At the end of the Civil War in 1949, PRC (China) illegally occupied Tibet. Altho' Tibetan language, customs, culture, socio-politico norms are unique, Tibetan govt. had never declared their free & independent state. The current Dalai Lama (His Holiness was then only a teenager) visited the PRC to meet Chairman Mao. Mao declared all religion was poison, thereby quelling any hopes of a diplomatic resolution to the Chinese occupation. The Dalai Lama was forced to flee undercover to India in 1959, where he has set up his Govt.in exile at Dharamsala, HP.</p> <p>When PRC was formed, India (under Nehru) was keen to maintain friendly relations with an aggressive communist neighbour that had already occupied a non-hostile independent territory. Once the buffer state of Tibet evaporated, Nehru was forced to re-evaluate his stance. Nehru even signed a "Panch Shila" which formulated peaceful co-existence. A popular slogan was "hindi-chini bhai bhai".</p> <p>All this time border skirmishes with the Chinese had been a fact of life. In 1959, the Indian Army discovered an illegal Chinese (built & manned) road on the Indian territory of Aksai Chin (according to the McMahon line defined by the Simla Convention 1914). The PRC refused to honour this border agreement. In 1962, PRC attacked India & routed the Indian Army. Parts of Ladakh (Aksai Chin) were taken by the Chinese. The war ended when China declared a unilateral ceasefire. The PRC also assisted Pakistan in its 1965 war against India.</p> Question for Post#7: Is your comment related to the “Bilderberg Group” post, or are you seeking answers?

The sequence of events (or reasons) for the Sino-Indian war of 1962:

At the end of the Civil War in 1949, PRC (China) illegally occupied Tibet. Altho’ Tibetan language, customs, culture, socio-politico norms are unique, Tibetan govt. had never declared their free & independent state. The current Dalai Lama (His Holiness was then only a teenager) visited the PRC to meet Chairman Mao. Mao declared all religion was poison, thereby quelling any hopes of a diplomatic resolution to the Chinese occupation. The Dalai Lama was forced to flee undercover to India in 1959, where he has set up his Govt.in exile at Dharamsala, HP.

When PRC was formed, India (under Nehru) was keen to maintain friendly relations with an aggressive communist neighbour that had already occupied a non-hostile independent territory. Once the buffer state of Tibet evaporated, Nehru was forced to re-evaluate his stance. Nehru even signed a “Panch Shila” which formulated peaceful co-existence. A popular slogan was “hindi-chini bhai bhai”.

All this time border skirmishes with the Chinese had been a fact of life. In 1959, the Indian Army discovered an illegal Chinese (built & manned) road on the Indian territory of Aksai Chin (according to the McMahon line defined by the Simla Convention 1914). The PRC refused to honour this border agreement. In 1962, PRC attacked India & routed the Indian Army. Parts of Ladakh (Aksai Chin) were taken by the Chinese. The war ended when China declared a unilateral ceasefire. The PRC also assisted Pakistan in its 1965 war against India.

]]> By: palangtod http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67369 palangtod Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:25:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67369 <p>The post reminds me of another organization, which some of you may have heard of, known as <a href="http://www.smom.org/">The Order of Malta</a> or, The Knights of Malta. The existence of this order is not a secret though there are a lot of theories about its role in the politics of the western world. I have read (with a pinch of salt) that this group, working closely witht he Roman Catholic Church, was instrumental in helping several Nazi officers escape Germany and settle in anonymity in South America. It is alleged that Pinochet was also a member of this group, one among an array of other high profile characters.</p> The post reminds me of another organization, which some of you may have heard of, known as The Order of Malta or, The Knights of Malta. The existence of this order is not a secret though there are a lot of theories about its role in the politics of the western world. I have read (with a pinch of salt) that this group, working closely witht he Roman Catholic Church, was instrumental in helping several Nazi officers escape Germany and settle in anonymity in South America. It is alleged that Pinochet was also a member of this group, one among an array of other high profile characters.

]]> By: _mayur http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67333 _mayur Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:21:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67333 <p>i almost got into one of those limos (thinking that the B stood for Bapu..)</p> i almost got into one of those limos (thinking that the B stood for Bapu..)

]]> By: Sin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67291 Sin Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:17:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67291 <p>Damn. If Irshad Manji's going over there, where's my invite? (It's a joke, don't flame me, seriously).</p> Damn. If Irshad Manji’s going over there, where’s my invite? (It’s a joke, don’t flame me, seriously).

]]> By: Neena http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67243 Neena Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:17:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67243 <p>Can someone clarify it.</p> <blockquote>India has had quarrels with every neighbour, not just Pakistan. Of these, the war with China (for which some western observers considered India responsible), the many border fights with Bangladesh (in which hundreds of Bangladeshi troops and civilians have been killed), the economic blockade of land-locked Nepal and the interference in Sri Lankan, Bhutanese and Malidivian affairs are well-known.</blockquote> Can someone clarify it.

India has had quarrels with every neighbour, not just Pakistan. Of these, the war with China (for which some western observers considered India responsible), the many border fights with Bangladesh (in which hundreds of Bangladeshi troops and civilians have been killed), the economic blockade of land-locked Nepal and the interference in Sri Lankan, Bhutanese and Malidivian affairs are well-known.
]]> By: Nimmi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67237 Nimmi Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:11:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67237 <p>I think it is cool that Irshad Manji was invited this year. Although there is not much brownitude, it is good she represents.</p> I think it is cool that Irshad Manji was invited this year. Although there is not much brownitude, it is good she represents.

]]> By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67223 Manish Vij Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:00:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67223 <blockquote>If you change “old” to “young” and “white” to “brown” then our blog is doing much the same thing. </blockquote> <p>And rich -> poor, and busy -> time on our hands :)</p> <blockquote>Who do I have to sleep with for an invitation?</blockquote> <p>Bad news-- Margaret Thatcher.</p> If you change “old” to “young” and “white” to “brown” then our blog is doing much the same thing.

And rich -> poor, and busy -> time on our hands :)

Who do I have to sleep with for an invitation?

Bad news– Margaret Thatcher.

]]> By: ashvin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67207 ashvin Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:23:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67207 <p>Jon Ronson has some really funny chapters about them in his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743233212/sr=8-1/qid=1149974310/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4980069-1899244?%5Fencoding=UTF8">Them: Adventures with Extremists</a>.</p> Jon Ronson has some really funny chapters about them in his book Them: Adventures with Extremists.

]]> By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/06/10/the_bilderberg/comment-page-1/#comment-67205 Manju Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:37:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3461#comment-67205 <p>The aura secrecy can bestow is quite amazing. Being in finance, I remember when Goldman Sachs was a partnership and how people (especially some anti-Semites) thought they really controlled the world economy. Now with the transparency of GS being publicly traded, conspiracy theorists have turned their attention to private money managers like hedge funds of private equity shops like the Carlyle group, in particular. Since they invest in defense companies, some even hold them responsible for 911, since they have profited from the increased business of defense contractors. (And both OBL's and the Bush family invest in their funds--which are not available to the gerneral public...oooooh)</p> <p>Maybe if access to SM becomes password protected, some of this aura can rub off on us, and perhaps we'll be held responsible for the India/US nuke deal or something.</p> The aura secrecy can bestow is quite amazing. Being in finance, I remember when Goldman Sachs was a partnership and how people (especially some anti-Semites) thought they really controlled the world economy. Now with the transparency of GS being publicly traded, conspiracy theorists have turned their attention to private money managers like hedge funds of private equity shops like the Carlyle group, in particular. Since they invest in defense companies, some even hold them responsible for 911, since they have profited from the increased business of defense contractors. (And both OBL’s and the Bush family invest in their funds–which are not available to the gerneral public…oooooh)

Maybe if access to SM becomes password protected, some of this aura can rub off on us, and perhaps we’ll be held responsible for the India/US nuke deal or something.

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