Comments on: Fighting Words- UPDATED http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: DJ 88 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62493 DJ 88 Tue, 16 May 2006 17:32:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62493 <blockquote>It turns out he is a Black man who once hypocritically blasted Jennifer Lopez for uttering the N word.</blockquote> <p>Actually, he's both African-American and Italian. And the the N-word wasn't just uttered by Jennifer Lopez, it was recorded in a song. Her defense was that the lyrics were written by Ja Rule, so that made it OK for her.</p> It turns out he is a Black man who once hypocritically blasted Jennifer Lopez for uttering the N word.

Actually, he’s both African-American and Italian. And the the N-word wasn’t just uttered by Jennifer Lopez, it was recorded in a song. Her defense was that the lyrics were written by Ja Rule, so that made it OK for her.

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By: Mr Self Promotion Again! http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62431 Mr Self Promotion Again! Mon, 15 May 2006 23:35:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62431 <p>I wrote the following piece more than a year ago never to see it published( the issue never was big enough to get on the radar of mainstream media ),so I thought I will share it with the readers of this Blog. It <i>might</i> be interesting. What's really interesting is the kneejerk assumption of many ( not a few )of what a racist <i>looks</i> like.</p> <p>A recent email in my in-box screams for action against racism. Its author belongs to an Indian-American theater group in New York. As a budding Indian actor I once joined this group's mailing list to tap into its pool of ethnically favorable audition calls.</p> <p>The email directs me to a nasty sound clip reeking of racism, sexism, and cowardice all at once. It is a recording of a male radio disc jockey who dials a female call center worker in India to order some trinket. He then abruptly jumps to his pre-planned course of action and calls the helpless woman a bitch and a filthy rat eater. He even threatens to choke her to death. He does this while comfortably sitting in his studio, thousands of miles away from his unseen victim. The call center woman, whose name is Tina, keeps addressing the DJ as "ma'am" throughout the conversation, innocently believing him to be one of her own gender. So much for his attempt to sound like a menacingly macho thug!</p> <p>I ask the sender of the email for the DJ's name and a few other details, including his race. "HeÂ’s as White as can be," she shoots back. I ask if she has bothered to confirm. She doesn't think it's necessary. In her eyes the racist person is White by default and the victim is anyone but White. It wouldn't take too long for the media in Tina's country to play up this issue. The Times of India dated January 13, 2005 has already run the story. The average person in India, not to mention here in America, thinks of America as a predominantly White culture and society, particularly when referring to quarters from which racism springs. That was where the finger was pointed after 9/11 when acts of hate were perpetrated against Middle Eastern looking people.</p> <p>A google search reveals that the radio DJ's name is Troy Torain, a.k.a STAR whose morning show, The Star & Buc Wild Show is currently syndicated to two other Hip-Hop and R&B stations besides Philadelphia's WUSL-Power 99 FM. It turns out he is a Black man who once hypocritically blasted Jennifer Lopez for uttering the N word. This on-air incident, which took place on December 15, 2004, would have passed into oblivion were it not for an alert internet browser to have chanced upon a sound clip on Philadelphia's Power 99 website. Besides the Philadelphia Inquirer no major media outlets have picked up the story. Sympathizing with an American job stealer won't make for a popular read, it seems.</p> <p>In many cultures and not the least in India, human beings, particularly women can be very sensitive and prone to take insults personally. Did the call center employee, Tina, fear for her life? Probably so. Even to this day she might not know her nightmare was caused by some cruel American DJ's attempt to jack up his ratings. I hope Tina's countrymen will be able to tell one sick American anomaly apart from the multitudes who have poured out their hearts and wallets to the millions stricken by the recent Tsunami. The radio show guy didn't just give hell to a poor woman from another country. He slurred the entire Indian-American community that proudly calls America home.</p> <p>In keeping with the spirit of the upcoming Martin Luther King Day, African-American leaders should be the first to publicly condemn this reprehensible act of ethnic hatred. The radio station's owners should discipline Troy Torain or fire him altogether. And finally with his now infamous radio program set to broadcast in New York City from Power 105.1 starting January 17, can I expect any prospective listeners to vote with their feet - and their ears as well?</p> <p>Tak</p> I wrote the following piece more than a year ago never to see it published( the issue never was big enough to get on the radar of mainstream media ),so I thought I will share it with the readers of this Blog. It might be interesting. What’s really interesting is the kneejerk assumption of many ( not a few )of what a racist looks like.

A recent email in my in-box screams for action against racism. Its author belongs to an Indian-American theater group in New York. As a budding Indian actor I once joined this group’s mailing list to tap into its pool of ethnically favorable audition calls.

The email directs me to a nasty sound clip reeking of racism, sexism, and cowardice all at once. It is a recording of a male radio disc jockey who dials a female call center worker in India to order some trinket. He then abruptly jumps to his pre-planned course of action and calls the helpless woman a bitch and a filthy rat eater. He even threatens to choke her to death. He does this while comfortably sitting in his studio, thousands of miles away from his unseen victim. The call center woman, whose name is Tina, keeps addressing the DJ as “ma’am” throughout the conversation, innocently believing him to be one of her own gender. So much for his attempt to sound like a menacingly macho thug!

I ask the sender of the email for the DJ’s name and a few other details, including his race. “HeÂ’s as White as can be,” she shoots back. I ask if she has bothered to confirm. She doesn’t think it’s necessary. In her eyes the racist person is White by default and the victim is anyone but White. It wouldn’t take too long for the media in Tina’s country to play up this issue. The Times of India dated January 13, 2005 has already run the story. The average person in India, not to mention here in America, thinks of America as a predominantly White culture and society, particularly when referring to quarters from which racism springs. That was where the finger was pointed after 9/11 when acts of hate were perpetrated against Middle Eastern looking people.

A google search reveals that the radio DJ’s name is Troy Torain, a.k.a STAR whose morning show, The Star & Buc Wild Show is currently syndicated to two other Hip-Hop and R&B stations besides Philadelphia’s WUSL-Power 99 FM. It turns out he is a Black man who once hypocritically blasted Jennifer Lopez for uttering the N word. This on-air incident, which took place on December 15, 2004, would have passed into oblivion were it not for an alert internet browser to have chanced upon a sound clip on Philadelphia’s Power 99 website. Besides the Philadelphia Inquirer no major media outlets have picked up the story. Sympathizing with an American job stealer won’t make for a popular read, it seems.

In many cultures and not the least in India, human beings, particularly women can be very sensitive and prone to take insults personally. Did the call center employee, Tina, fear for her life? Probably so. Even to this day she might not know her nightmare was caused by some cruel American DJ’s attempt to jack up his ratings. I hope Tina’s countrymen will be able to tell one sick American anomaly apart from the multitudes who have poured out their hearts and wallets to the millions stricken by the recent Tsunami. The radio show guy didn’t just give hell to a poor woman from another country. He slurred the entire Indian-American community that proudly calls America home.

In keeping with the spirit of the upcoming Martin Luther King Day, African-American leaders should be the first to publicly condemn this reprehensible act of ethnic hatred. The radio station’s owners should discipline Troy Torain or fire him altogether. And finally with his now infamous radio program set to broadcast in New York City from Power 105.1 starting January 17, can I expect any prospective listeners to vote with their feet – and their ears as well?

Tak

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By: DevilsAdvocate http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62382 DevilsAdvocate Mon, 15 May 2006 20:50:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62382 <p>Star's comments towards DJ Envy's wife and daughter were wrong. But let's not forget that DJ Envy set the whole situation off. It's quite admirable of DJ Envy to lay in the cut while his wife is leading an assult against Star. Wasn't it DJ Envy who started this trouble in the first place with the comments he made on his morning show. They say you reap was you sow. Well DJ Envy seemed to get more then he could handle. It is quite obvious that Star made those comments only to provoke DJ Envy into a confrontation. In my opinion if you're going to open your mouth and talk junk don't be suprised if you get punched in the face. Why isn't DJ Envy handling his business like a man? He put up and now he shut up. None of this would have went on if it weren't for DJ Envy's on-air comments towards Star. DJ Envy is the real cause to the pain and suffering his wife and daughter are enduring. If you're going to talk the talk then walk the walk.</p> Star’s comments towards DJ Envy’s wife and daughter were wrong. But let’s not forget that DJ Envy set the whole situation off. It’s quite admirable of DJ Envy to lay in the cut while his wife is leading an assult against Star. Wasn’t it DJ Envy who started this trouble in the first place with the comments he made on his morning show. They say you reap was you sow. Well DJ Envy seemed to get more then he could handle. It is quite obvious that Star made those comments only to provoke DJ Envy into a confrontation. In my opinion if you’re going to open your mouth and talk junk don’t be suprised if you get punched in the face. Why isn’t DJ Envy handling his business like a man? He put up and now he shut up. None of this would have went on if it weren’t for DJ Envy’s on-air comments towards Star. DJ Envy is the real cause to the pain and suffering his wife and daughter are enduring. If you’re going to talk the talk then walk the walk.

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By: A N N A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62307 A N N A Mon, 15 May 2006 13:28:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62307 <p>It's still not okay. It's <i>never</i> okay to threatean a four-year old with such torment, no matter the context.</p> It’s still not okay. It’s never okay to threatean a four-year old with such torment, no matter the context.

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By: Indeed http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62305 Indeed Mon, 15 May 2006 09:02:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62305 <p><b>Now don't get me wrong, what was said is distasteful and diswgusting and all synonyms of those words i'm sure, however every action has a reaction. And that is what has occured here. Mr. Torain at times was an ass, but if you took time to go beyond the that part of that 4 hour show. He offered more. I don't even consider him Hip Hop radio. He rarely played music. He attacked some of the most rediculous hip hop, and he used most of the terminology of the streets just to show how stupid it sounds. I'm guilty of this too. My niece and nephew are of this fouled up generation, and I always speak to them using the hip hop terms like son, kid , aight...... just to show how uneducated it sounds. He also played all types of music. Not just hip hop.</b></p> Now don’t get me wrong, what was said is distasteful and diswgusting and all synonyms of those words i’m sure, however every action has a reaction. And that is what has occured here. Mr. Torain at times was an ass, but if you took time to go beyond the that part of that 4 hour show. He offered more. I don’t even consider him Hip Hop radio. He rarely played music. He attacked some of the most rediculous hip hop, and he used most of the terminology of the streets just to show how stupid it sounds. I’m guilty of this too. My niece and nephew are of this fouled up generation, and I always speak to them using the hip hop terms like son, kid , aight…… just to show how uneducated it sounds. He also played all types of music. Not just hip hop.

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By: Indeed http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62304 Indeed Mon, 15 May 2006 08:53:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62304 <p><b>I can't believe this true listeners of either station would know that this is truly a long time battle that ended sadly this week. This was all started by the Tsunami song creator Dj Envy. The majority of the Tsunami victims are considered asian. He also was on air telling of how he had gone up earlier that week to attack and assault Star with 50 dudes. The ways of Shot 97. He also threatened to abduct Star's mom and throw he off of a bridge. He then ended his rants by shrugging off the personal verbal attacks of Star by saying that he doesn't care as long as Star doesn;t disrespect his wife and SEED?, i guess that his child. In return wanting to entice Envy to come back to the studio and face him like a man. He disrespected the wife and child. As requested. Thats why when you read the transcripts, after he says all of this vile disgusting ish..... He says now you have to come see me.... then the gun comes into play. "don't worry the only perso in my camp that carries is me". Not liek he was threatening the wife and or child with a gun..... Oh the people involved in this writing this are actually all victims.... The true culprits are the producers and owners of the show..who when seeing the situation getting out f control had the power to stop the dispute. Fire them. </b></p> I can’t believe this true listeners of either station would know that this is truly a long time battle that ended sadly this week. This was all started by the Tsunami song creator Dj Envy. The majority of the Tsunami victims are considered asian. He also was on air telling of how he had gone up earlier that week to attack and assault Star with 50 dudes. The ways of Shot 97. He also threatened to abduct Star’s mom and throw he off of a bridge. He then ended his rants by shrugging off the personal verbal attacks of Star by saying that he doesn’t care as long as Star doesn;t disrespect his wife and SEED?, i guess that his child. In return wanting to entice Envy to come back to the studio and face him like a man. He disrespected the wife and child. As requested. Thats why when you read the transcripts, after he says all of this vile disgusting ish….. He says now you have to come see me…. then the gun comes into play. “don’t worry the only perso in my camp that carries is me”. Not liek he was threatening the wife and or child with a gun….. Oh the people involved in this writing this are actually all victims…. The true culprits are the producers and owners of the show..who when seeing the situation getting out f control had the power to stop the dispute. Fire them.

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By: Ronald Reagan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62215 Ronald Reagan Sun, 14 May 2006 11:56:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62215 <p>Serial killer Ted Bundy <a href="http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/bundy/3.html">worked for the Republican Party</a>.</p> <p>Serial killer John Wayne Gacy <a href="http://crimemagazine.com/boykillergacy.htm">worked for the Democratic Party</a>.</p> Serial killer Ted Bundy worked for the Republican Party.

Serial killer John Wayne Gacy worked for the Democratic Party.

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By: John Galt http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62128 John Galt Sat, 13 May 2006 21:02:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62128 <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/13/nyregion/13dj.html">Troi explains</a>:</p> <blockquote>Mr. Torain, 42, said that he was no shock jock. "There is a philosophy behind what I do," he said. "I have an ideology." He called his philosophy "objective hate," but refused to expound. "Visit <a href="http://www.rebirthofreason.com/">www.rebirthofreason.com</a>," he said. "When you start scrolling through those posts, then you'll understand my philosophy." In one of several messages posted on the Web site, <i>Mr. Torain, who has described himself as a die-hard fan of the author Ayn Rand, wrote, "Soon, I will indeed explain how the cheap emotion of hate, a common subliminal thread in all men including myself, can only be fully understood by way of Objectivism."</i></blockquote> Troi explains:

Mr. Torain, 42, said that he was no shock jock. “There is a philosophy behind what I do,” he said. “I have an ideology.” He called his philosophy “objective hate,” but refused to expound. “Visit http://www.rebirthofreason.com,” he said. “When you start scrolling through those posts, then you’ll understand my philosophy.” In one of several messages posted on the Web site, Mr. Torain, who has described himself as a die-hard fan of the author Ayn Rand, wrote, “Soon, I will indeed explain how the cheap emotion of hate, a common subliminal thread in all men including myself, can only be fully understood by way of Objectivism.”
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By: Al Mujahid for debauchery http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62126 Al Mujahid for debauchery Sat, 13 May 2006 20:51:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62126 <p>I meant does <u>not</u> agree with me.</p> I meant does not agree with me.

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By: Al Mujahid for debauchery http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/11/fighting_words_1/comment-page-2/#comment-62125 Al Mujahid for debauchery Sat, 13 May 2006 20:50:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3366#comment-62125 <p><i>A syndicated disc jockey with one of the cityÂ’s leading hip-hop radio stations was arrested this afternoon for making on-air threats to track down and sexually abuse the 4-year-old daughter of a rival, the police said.</i></p> <p>I guess the DA does agree with me. Oh well!</p> A syndicated disc jockey with one of the cityÂ’s leading hip-hop radio stations was arrested this afternoon for making on-air threats to track down and sexually abuse the 4-year-old daughter of a rival, the police said.

I guess the DA does agree with me. Oh well!

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