Comments on: Witch hunts http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jack http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-269729 jack Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:09:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-269729 <p>hello sir i m rohit i m again i want to participate in indian wichtes to destroy this disease sir i hope u like u may b epart of i want that girls have freedomt o go anywhere plz i want id of poonam or any association ihope u like that sir ur obediently rohit(nick name jack)</p> hello sir i m rohit i m again i want to participate in indian wichtes to destroy this disease sir i hope u like u may b epart of i want that girls have freedomt o go anywhere plz i want id of poonam or any association ihope u like that sir ur obediently rohit(nick name jack)

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By: G.S.Jaiswal, Advocate, sec.FLAC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-206244 G.S.Jaiswal, Advocate, sec.FLAC Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:17:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-206244 <p>FLAC has been working since more than two decades on with hunting problem, we drafted the law and lobbied hard to get it passed in Bihar , when Jharkhand became a separate state we got it passed here too. Just yesterday I in my usual routine work , after getting information from one of local daily Hindi went to a village Bara jhuri some 70 KM away from Jamshedpur , for getting first hand report on a double murder occurance which took place in the night of 10th June 2008 . The nephew killed his one father's brother and his wife while they were asleep inside their hut, he believed that the aunt was a witch and a cause of the death of his mother now father was ill and hence he decided to finish the witch. chotaram Baske after causing these ghastly murder went to police station and surrendered himself stating every thing about his doings, police has drawn an FIR , through one Dukhu Ram Mardi the gram Pradhan of the village being its number Ghatshila PS case No 0072/08 dated 11.6.2008 u/s 302 IPC @ 3/4 of Dain P.Act I some time think that the law regarding witch hunting is staying at a different plane altogether then the community collective psychology, the law can support the eradication of witch hunting but law alone could not, because it relates to a faith system and untill and unless we educate and make people aware about the myths and the facts, it is difficult to get the kiilings stopped. The state and society have the burden to make people aware. Chotaram Baske is under the illusive impression that he has done a great work for his community , whereas we despise him we have to be more realistic we should analyse why this is done at the risk of being hanged, there must be very strong motivation behind. I know of a case for which I was instrumental in making a National Geographic Channel documentary where a person named Gurdas Mardi killed his auntee 90 km away of Jamshedpur believinf her to be witch , there was no witness though he had brought the slain head of the body to PS himself claiming he killed her, but when session court summoned the witnesses there was no support . My pertinent question to all of you what shoiuld be done?</p> FLAC has been working since more than two decades on with hunting problem, we drafted the law and lobbied hard to get it passed in Bihar , when Jharkhand became a separate state we got it passed here too. Just yesterday I in my usual routine work , after getting information from one of local daily Hindi went to a village Bara jhuri some 70 KM away from Jamshedpur , for getting first hand report on a double murder occurance which took place in the night of 10th June 2008 . The nephew killed his one father’s brother and his wife while they were asleep inside their hut, he believed that the aunt was a witch and a cause of the death of his mother now father was ill and hence he decided to finish the witch. chotaram Baske after causing these ghastly murder went to police station and surrendered himself stating every thing about his doings, police has drawn an FIR , through one Dukhu Ram Mardi the gram Pradhan of the village being its number Ghatshila PS case No 0072/08 dated 11.6.2008 u/s 302 IPC @ 3/4 of Dain P.Act I some time think that the law regarding witch hunting is staying at a different plane altogether then the community collective psychology, the law can support the eradication of witch hunting but law alone could not, because it relates to a faith system and untill and unless we educate and make people aware about the myths and the facts, it is difficult to get the kiilings stopped. The state and society have the burden to make people aware. Chotaram Baske is under the illusive impression that he has done a great work for his community , whereas we despise him we have to be more realistic we should analyse why this is done at the risk of being hanged, there must be very strong motivation behind. I know of a case for which I was instrumental in making a National Geographic Channel documentary where a person named Gurdas Mardi killed his auntee 90 km away of Jamshedpur believinf her to be witch , there was no witness though he had brought the slain head of the body to PS himself claiming he killed her, but when session court summoned the witnesses there was no support . My pertinent question to all of you what shoiuld be done?

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By: someone else http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-61998 someone else Fri, 12 May 2006 21:42:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-61998 <p>Thanks for putting this post up. I wish it were of more interest to more people, but I'm really glad that it's here.</p> Thanks for putting this post up. I wish it were of more interest to more people, but I’m really glad that it’s here.

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By: mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-61884 mahesh Fri, 12 May 2006 12:29:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-61884 <p>the part of india u talk about is absolutely beautiful. hills, forests, ravines and thousands of small streams dot the landscape. as u come into central madhya pradesh, mustard fields with their unique shade of green begin to dominate the landscape. all this i saw from my train window......i cant imagine how beautiful it must be to actually travel thru this region.</p> <p>but its sickening to think about the suffering of the local people. and witch hunts is far from being the only cause of suffering in chhatisgarh/madhya pradesh. recently, the communists have stepped up their terror campaign, massacring poor villagers and forcing internal displacement thru fear and bullying. it really disgusts me think about these things when everyone in india (and nri's as well) seem to want to talk only about how great the economy is and how everything is booming. i guess when i say everyone, that basically refers to a narrow slice of the middle class population, but u see my point..........</p> the part of india u talk about is absolutely beautiful. hills, forests, ravines and thousands of small streams dot the landscape. as u come into central madhya pradesh, mustard fields with their unique shade of green begin to dominate the landscape. all this i saw from my train window……i cant imagine how beautiful it must be to actually travel thru this region.

but its sickening to think about the suffering of the local people. and witch hunts is far from being the only cause of suffering in chhatisgarh/madhya pradesh. recently, the communists have stepped up their terror campaign, massacring poor villagers and forcing internal displacement thru fear and bullying. it really disgusts me think about these things when everyone in india (and nri’s as well) seem to want to talk only about how great the economy is and how everything is booming. i guess when i say everyone, that basically refers to a narrow slice of the middle class population, but u see my point……….

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By: DesiDudeInAustin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-61640 DesiDudeInAustin Thu, 11 May 2006 18:21:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-61640 <blockquote>a <b>Dalit </b>woman, Lata Sahu, contested against a <b>backward-caste</b> woman in the panchayat elections.</blockquote> <p>Backward is clearly a relative term here.</p> a Dalit woman, Lata Sahu, contested against a backward-caste woman in the panchayat elections.

Backward is clearly a relative term here.

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By: Branch Dravidian http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-61557 Branch Dravidian Thu, 11 May 2006 03:24:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-61557 <p>Sir Bedevere: What makes you think she's a witch? Peasant: Well, she turned me into a newt! Sir Bedevere: A newt? Peasant: I got better... Crowd: Burn her anyway!!</p> <p>/obligatory</p> Sir Bedevere: What makes you think she’s a witch? Peasant: Well, she turned me into a newt! Sir Bedevere: A newt? Peasant: I got better… Crowd: Burn her anyway!!

/obligatory

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By: Bihari Babu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-61521 Bihari Babu Wed, 10 May 2006 23:50:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-61521 <p>it is sick. i have read other reports in indian newspapers about similar stuff. i wish i had money and i wish i had time and i wish i could do something to end the insanity!</p> it is sick. i have read other reports in indian newspapers about similar stuff. i wish i had money and i wish i had time and i wish i could do something to end the insanity!

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By: siddhartha m http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-61460 siddhartha m Wed, 10 May 2006 17:29:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-61460 <p>blue mountain, thanks for sharing the story. i only have childhood memories of it but i remember this as a really beautiful region, forests and hills, and a very large santhal population. it's a part of india i really hope to go back to on some future visit, though i also know that it will be depressing in any number of ways. another fact i'm embarrassed that i didn't know prior to working on this post was that india's adivasi population was 84 million in the 2001 census. there's probably pushing up on 100 million adivasis now yet there is so little attention to these communities.</p> <p>one analysis i've come across is that encroachment and economic change have compelled adivasis, who in many cases were once nomads, to assign ownership and value to land; with growing competition for land within the community as well as land pressure from outside the community, some of these "witch" hunts are actually land grabs. at other times they are punishment for speaking up, or for resisting sexual advances.</p> <p>it all flows into dynamics of the larger caste- and tribe-based rural society.</p> blue mountain, thanks for sharing the story. i only have childhood memories of it but i remember this as a really beautiful region, forests and hills, and a very large santhal population. it’s a part of india i really hope to go back to on some future visit, though i also know that it will be depressing in any number of ways. another fact i’m embarrassed that i didn’t know prior to working on this post was that india’s adivasi population was 84 million in the 2001 census. there’s probably pushing up on 100 million adivasis now yet there is so little attention to these communities.

one analysis i’ve come across is that encroachment and economic change have compelled adivasis, who in many cases were once nomads, to assign ownership and value to land; with growing competition for land within the community as well as land pressure from outside the community, some of these “witch” hunts are actually land grabs. at other times they are punishment for speaking up, or for resisting sexual advances.

it all flows into dynamics of the larger caste- and tribe-based rural society.

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By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-61454 Guru Gulab Khatri Wed, 10 May 2006 17:05:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-61454 <blockquote>It also shows the incredible courage this woman has, to confront these powerful forces. Bravo !!!</blockquote> <p>its not only women, any one who has had a seizure can also get into trouble.</p> It also shows the incredible courage this woman has, to confront these powerful forces. Bravo !!!

its not only women, any one who has had a seizure can also get into trouble.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/10/witch_hunts/comment-page-1/#comment-61452 RC Wed, 10 May 2006 16:59:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3356#comment-61452 <p>Like other commentors have noted these practices are shockingly common almost throughout India. When I was finishing high school and we moved to a city in Gujarat I found out about how some woman had been declared a "witch" and brutalized.</p> <p>I think challenge to existing power structures and some inherent misogyny both might be contributing factors.</p> <blockquote>Poonam Toppo, who was once declared a ‘witchÂ’ and ostracised, says that through dramatizing the true-life witchcraft nightmares, she along with others seeks to reach out to the villagers.</blockquote> <p>At least you ended on a hopeful note : Thats the right way to fight these heinous practices. It also shows the incredible courage this woman has, to confront these powerful forces. Bravo !!!</p> <p>BTW, Raipur is in Chattisgarh (was in Madhya Pradesh). One of my freind's wife is from there.</p> Like other commentors have noted these practices are shockingly common almost throughout India. When I was finishing high school and we moved to a city in Gujarat I found out about how some woman had been declared a “witch” and brutalized.

I think challenge to existing power structures and some inherent misogyny both might be contributing factors.

Poonam Toppo, who was once declared a ‘witch’ and ostracised, says that through dramatizing the true-life witchcraft nightmares, she along with others seeks to reach out to the villagers.

At least you ended on a hopeful note : Thats the right way to fight these heinous practices. It also shows the incredible courage this woman has, to confront these powerful forces. Bravo !!!

BTW, Raipur is in Chattisgarh (was in Madhya Pradesh). One of my freind’s wife is from there.

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