Comments on: Pramod Mahajan RIP (and India’s Cell-phone Boom) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Gujjubhai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60338 Gujjubhai Fri, 05 May 2006 04:07:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60338 <p><i>Hint 2: Ever heard of "Hindu Rate Of Growth" ?</i></p> <p>Don't you mean <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stalinism#Nehruvian_Stalinism">Nehruvian-Stalinist</a> rate of growth or the <a href="http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/jan/14rajeev.htm">Nehruvian Penalty</a>?</p> <p>Of course, Raj Krishna was a leftist-communist.</p> Hint 2: Ever heard of “Hindu Rate Of Growth” ?

Don’t you mean Nehruvian-Stalinist rate of growth or the Nehruvian Penalty?

Of course, Raj Krishna was a leftist-communist.

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By: Jatin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60319 Jatin Fri, 05 May 2006 02:05:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60319 <p>Bihari Babu i am right there with you... I don't care about monarchies as such, but the thing that bothers me about Congress was the fact that it continued to support a person such as Lalu yadav and let the state Bihar fall in to the dark ages.</p> Bihari Babu i am right there with you… I don’t care about monarchies as such, but the thing that bothers me about Congress was the fact that it continued to support a person such as Lalu yadav and let the state Bihar fall in to the dark ages.

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By: Bihari Babu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60293 Bihari Babu Thu, 04 May 2006 23:29:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60293 <p>All politicians are corrupt and dubious. Given. But in that you have good apples and bad ones. The BJP and the NDA has more good apples and the UPA and esp Congress has the bad ones.</p> <p>Give me a BJP over a Cangressi anyday. No matter how 'bad' the BJP is/ can be - it will ALWAYS be better than a monarchist Congress. I detest Congress Sonia worshipping attitude. It is bad for the country.</p> <p>We need more Promod Mahajan's and less Rahul Gandhis. We need visionaries not monarchies. Someone said earlier BJP at the centre and Congress in the states. Yes that ok in SOME states. But have you seen what a mess Congress & her allies have done in Bihar, Punjab etc???</p> <p>No thanks Congress. I'd rather have communal nationalists than pesudo-secularist communal blag artists.</p> All politicians are corrupt and dubious. Given. But in that you have good apples and bad ones. The BJP and the NDA has more good apples and the UPA and esp Congress has the bad ones.

Give me a BJP over a Cangressi anyday. No matter how ‘bad’ the BJP is/ can be – it will ALWAYS be better than a monarchist Congress. I detest Congress Sonia worshipping attitude. It is bad for the country.

We need more Promod Mahajan’s and less Rahul Gandhis. We need visionaries not monarchies. Someone said earlier BJP at the centre and Congress in the states. Yes that ok in SOME states. But have you seen what a mess Congress & her allies have done in Bihar, Punjab etc???

No thanks Congress. I’d rather have communal nationalists than pesudo-secularist communal blag artists.

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By: Ponniyin Selvan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60177 Ponniyin Selvan Thu, 04 May 2006 18:31:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60177 <p><i>Since their defeat, the BJP has just been floundering, outmaneuvered at every step by the Congress. India has many more years of Madam-ji's Raj to look forward to.</i></p> <p>Like Chattisgarh and Bihar and Karnataka, you mean.. :-))</p> <p>I think people just want alternatives every other elections (and that's a good sign).. It spreads the wealth to all the party workers by terms of government contracts..</p> <p>I don't think an average voter gives a damn about communalism / secularism / Ram temple etc/etc.... etc.. Mostly the votes are on the "regional lines". So whoever gets the right allies win.. BJP was defeated because its allies lost in TN and Andhra..</p> Since their defeat, the BJP has just been floundering, outmaneuvered at every step by the Congress. India has many more years of Madam-ji’s Raj to look forward to.

Like Chattisgarh and Bihar and Karnataka, you mean.. :-) )

I think people just want alternatives every other elections (and that’s a good sign).. It spreads the wealth to all the party workers by terms of government contracts..

I don’t think an average voter gives a damn about communalism / secularism / Ram temple etc/etc…. etc.. Mostly the votes are on the “regional lines”. So whoever gets the right allies win.. BJP was defeated because its allies lost in TN and Andhra..

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By: Anuj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60172 Anuj Thu, 04 May 2006 18:24:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60172 <blockquote><blockquote>"But why do you refer to it as a mosque at all? <b>Where is the mosque, my friends, when the namaz is not performed?</b> When for forty years idol worship is going on there, what kind of a mosque is it? That is just the temple of our dear Ram."</blockquote> That is not L K Advani talking to V P Singh. It is V P Singh talking to several RSS leaders.</blockquote> <p>Fyi for people like me with little or no knowlegde about the history of events..</p>
“But why do you refer to it as a mosque at all? Where is the mosque, my friends, when the namaz is not performed? When for forty years idol worship is going on there, what kind of a mosque is it? That is just the temple of our dear Ram.”
That is not L K Advani talking to V P Singh. It is V P Singh talking to several RSS leaders.

Fyi for people like me with little or no knowlegde about the history of events..

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By: RCK http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60164 RCK Thu, 04 May 2006 18:20:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60164 <p><i>(the Congress isn't really doing much to ensure victory in the next couple of elections) </i></p> <p>Umm...I think the Congress is doing all it can,the only problem being that the Powes That Be are so busy being sycophantic that they can neither see the writing on the wall, nor think of a way out of it. If the election rallies of the party president involve girls dancing to Bollywood songs on the stage { I swear I saw it with my own eyes on the TV today], there are no words to describe the intellectual poverty of the party. I think this even beats the article 'Take Pride In Dynasty' on the Congress website.</p> (the Congress isn’t really doing much to ensure victory in the next couple of elections)

Umm…I think the Congress is doing all it can,the only problem being that the Powes That Be are so busy being sycophantic that they can neither see the writing on the wall, nor think of a way out of it. If the election rallies of the party president involve girls dancing to Bollywood songs on the stage { I swear I saw it with my own eyes on the TV today], there are no words to describe the intellectual poverty of the party. I think this even beats the article ‘Take Pride In Dynasty’ on the Congress website.

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By: SMR http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60162 SMR Thu, 04 May 2006 18:18:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60162 <p>While Mahajan's death is a huge loss for the BJP (it will only worsen the party's current identity crisis), I'm afraid his main legacy will be overlooking one of the biggest electoral upsets in Indian history. The BJP's 2004 coalitions were in disarray, their attempts to look Congress-style secular were just stupid (no matter what the BJP does, Muslims will never vote for it en masse so it's pointless to try and get their vote), his failure to get the BJP base to the polls, his underestimating Madam-ji, were all shocking missteps for a master strategist. Since their defeat, the BJP has just been floundering, outmaneuvered at every step by the Congress. India has many more years of Madam-ji's Raj to look forward to.</p> <p>The current government is ass-backwards. The Congress should be in power in the states and the BJP in power in Delhi. The concentration of BJP talent at the central level is hard to beat (Shourie, Sinha, Singh, Vajpayee, Jaitley, Swaraj). On the other hand, Madam-ji will never allow real political talent to accumulate in Delhi while she keeps the seat warm for her son. As likeable as Manmohan Singh is, he has no political power on domestic issues.</p> While Mahajan’s death is a huge loss for the BJP (it will only worsen the party’s current identity crisis), I’m afraid his main legacy will be overlooking one of the biggest electoral upsets in Indian history. The BJP’s 2004 coalitions were in disarray, their attempts to look Congress-style secular were just stupid (no matter what the BJP does, Muslims will never vote for it en masse so it’s pointless to try and get their vote), his failure to get the BJP base to the polls, his underestimating Madam-ji, were all shocking missteps for a master strategist. Since their defeat, the BJP has just been floundering, outmaneuvered at every step by the Congress. India has many more years of Madam-ji’s Raj to look forward to.

The current government is ass-backwards. The Congress should be in power in the states and the BJP in power in Delhi. The concentration of BJP talent at the central level is hard to beat (Shourie, Sinha, Singh, Vajpayee, Jaitley, Swaraj). On the other hand, Madam-ji will never allow real political talent to accumulate in Delhi while she keeps the seat warm for her son. As likeable as Manmohan Singh is, he has no political power on domestic issues.

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By: Gaurav http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60159 Gaurav Thu, 04 May 2006 18:14:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60159 <p>WGITA (32#)</p> <p>Or unbeknownst to all India has converted on mass scale and therefore India is following Christian (or Muslim) rate of growth ;-)</p> <p>Regards</p> WGITA (32#)

Or unbeknownst to all India has converted on mass scale and therefore India is following Christian (or Muslim) rate of growth ;-)

Regards

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By: Whose God is it anyways? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60156 Whose God is it anyways? Thu, 04 May 2006 18:08:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60156 <p>so given India's accelerating growth rate now, i guess mr. mcnamara would say that the hindu rate of growth has lost its negative connotation.:)</p> so given India’s accelerating growth rate now, i guess mr. mcnamara would say that the hindu rate of growth has lost its negative connotation.:)

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By: mugger_much http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/05/03/pramod_mahajan/comment-page-1/#comment-60150 mugger_much Thu, 04 May 2006 18:01:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3334#comment-60150 <p>Although I am a vehement secularist, I feel saddened by his passing away. The reason is simple: the realist in me knows that BJP will come back to power sooner or later (the Congress isn't really doing much to ensure victory in the next couple of elections). And, if and when the BJP did come to power, the only person I wouldn't mind as the PM was Pramod Mahajan. Granted, there were shades of gray (or orange?) in his thoughts andactions, but he surely was a street-fighter. And a street-fighter kind of PM would be a blessing in its own way.</p> Although I am a vehement secularist, I feel saddened by his passing away. The reason is simple: the realist in me knows that BJP will come back to power sooner or later (the Congress isn’t really doing much to ensure victory in the next couple of elections). And, if and when the BJP did come to power, the only person I wouldn’t mind as the PM was Pramod Mahajan. Granted, there were shades of gray (or orange?) in his thoughts andactions, but he surely was a street-fighter. And a street-fighter kind of PM would be a blessing in its own way.

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