Comments on: Kaavya is Innocent, Until Proven Otherwise http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: lets http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-163030 lets Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:07:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-163030 <p>your cartoon is incredibly sexist</p> your cartoon is incredibly sexist

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By: CAD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-61149 CAD Tue, 09 May 2006 10:41:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-61149 <p>Ms. Fink Nottle:</p> <p><i>I suspect it has to do with both cultures valuing tradition, family etc.</i></p> <p>Incidentally, I have many friends of diverse ethno-religious backgrounds. Interestingly enough, each people claims that their culture uniquely "values traditions, family, etc" which makes them distinct from others. Mexicans say that Mexicans values family and traditions. Asians say that "Asian values" underline family and traditions. Indians say that too. Arabs as well.</p> <p>Religious groups claim this too. Catholics say that Catholicism places a huge emphasis on family and traditions. Muslims also. Jews as well. Hindus ditto. Each purports that these "cultural values" both distinguishes them from others as well as tying them to other groups, ie "Hindus and Jews share this", or "Muslims and Hindus both place significance on this", "Protestants and Sikhs have this in common" (trust me, I have heard the latter before) etc. The list can go on and on.</p> <p>Each group argues that these specific cultural traits are characteristic of their group, but all these cultural traits are found in most societies. Turns out that these "values" are not so distinct after all.</p> Ms. Fink Nottle:

I suspect it has to do with both cultures valuing tradition, family etc.

Incidentally, I have many friends of diverse ethno-religious backgrounds. Interestingly enough, each people claims that their culture uniquely “values traditions, family, etc” which makes them distinct from others. Mexicans say that Mexicans values family and traditions. Asians say that “Asian values” underline family and traditions. Indians say that too. Arabs as well.

Religious groups claim this too. Catholics say that Catholicism places a huge emphasis on family and traditions. Muslims also. Jews as well. Hindus ditto. Each purports that these “cultural values” both distinguishes them from others as well as tying them to other groups, ie “Hindus and Jews share this”, or “Muslims and Hindus both place significance on this”, “Protestants and Sikhs have this in common” (trust me, I have heard the latter before) etc. The list can go on and on.

Each group argues that these specific cultural traits are characteristic of their group, but all these cultural traits are found in most societies. Turns out that these “values” are not so distinct after all.

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By: CAD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-60857 CAD Sun, 07 May 2006 10:12:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-60857 <p><i>Haven't come across any Indian men married to Jewish women yet, although I'm sure that combo exists as well.</i></p> <p>I also know two couples of Indian men married with/dating Jewish women.</p> <p>I have noticed a new phenomenon emerging: Japanese men and Indian women.</p> Haven’t come across any Indian men married to Jewish women yet, although I’m sure that combo exists as well.

I also know two couples of Indian men married with/dating Jewish women.

I have noticed a new phenomenon emerging: Japanese men and Indian women.

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By: siddhartha m http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-60844 siddhartha m Sun, 07 May 2006 05:47:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-60844 <p>ms finknottle:</p> <blockquote>Haven't come across any Indian men married to Jewish women yet, although I'm sure that combo exists as well.</blockquote> <p>indeed it does; my father is one.</p> ms finknottle:

Haven’t come across any Indian men married to Jewish women yet, although I’m sure that combo exists as well.

indeed it does; my father is one.

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By: CAD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-60838 CAD Sun, 07 May 2006 03:46:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-60838 <h1>560--</h1> <p>Yes, I noticed your post right away, because it I who wrote it: "chokri" was my previous avatar.</p> 560–

Yes, I noticed your post right away, because it I who wrote it: “chokri” was my previous avatar.

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By: Ms Fink Nottle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-60837 Ms Fink Nottle Sun, 07 May 2006 03:36:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-60837 <p>Thanks, Cheap Ass Desi: I got confused with all those postings. I agree with <em>Chokri's</em> position!!!</p> Thanks, Cheap Ass Desi: I got confused with all those postings. I agree with Chokri’s position!!!

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By: Cheap Ass Desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-60836 Cheap Ass Desi Sun, 07 May 2006 03:28:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-60836 <h1>558:</h1> <p>Gargi wasn't taking that position; "Chokri" was.</p> 558:

Gargi wasn’t taking that position; “Chokri” was.

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By: Ms Fink Nottle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-60823 Ms Fink Nottle Sun, 07 May 2006 01:27:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-60823 <p>PS: re #557 In context of the above Indian-Hindu debate, I realized (re-reading my post) that it sounds a bit like I too sound as if I'm conflating being Indian with being Hindu. Not so: in this case, it just so happens that I am both Indian and, inasmuch as I have a religion, Hindu.</p> <p>I agree with Gargi's position in this debate. To try to equate 'Indian' with 'Hindu' is to fall into the sort of propaganda that Hindutva-types are hoping to spread.</p> PS: re #557 In context of the above Indian-Hindu debate, I realized (re-reading my post) that it sounds a bit like I too sound as if I’m conflating being Indian with being Hindu. Not so: in this case, it just so happens that I am both Indian and, inasmuch as I have a religion, Hindu.

I agree with Gargi’s position in this debate. To try to equate ‘Indian’ with ‘Hindu’ is to fall into the sort of propaganda that Hindutva-types are hoping to spread.

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By: Ms Fink Nottle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-60810 Ms Fink Nottle Sun, 07 May 2006 00:40:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-60810 <p>Danny Bee: I've come across a fair number of Indian women who've married Jewish men in the US -- including me :)...we had the funnest, wildest "Hin-Jew" wedding complete with shared traditions such as huppah/canopy, taking circles around fire/candles etc! I suspect it has to do with both cultures valuing tradition, family etc.</p> <p>Haven't come across any Indian men married to Jewish women yet, although I'm sure that combo exists as well.</p> Danny Bee: I’ve come across a fair number of Indian women who’ve married Jewish men in the US — including me :) …we had the funnest, wildest “Hin-Jew” wedding complete with shared traditions such as huppah/canopy, taking circles around fire/candles etc! I suspect it has to do with both cultures valuing tradition, family etc.

Haven’t come across any Indian men married to Jewish women yet, although I’m sure that combo exists as well.

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By: u of chicago boy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/24/innocent_until/comment-page-12/#comment-60788 u of chicago boy Sat, 06 May 2006 22:38:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3298#comment-60788 <p>Hey Not Brown ---</p> <p>I can totally relate to what you're saying. As an undergraduate majoring in English at Chicago, I too am always in classes with all-white faces. All honkies. Except for me. Yes, me. A minority at <em>my</em> college. Why?</p> <p>Because they only want easy majors so that they can get higher GPAs, go to law school, and work at their daddy's law firms.</p> <p>And English becoming a joke major that only white people will do.</p> Hey Not Brown —

I can totally relate to what you’re saying. As an undergraduate majoring in English at Chicago, I too am always in classes with all-white faces. All honkies. Except for me. Yes, me. A minority at my college. Why?

Because they only want easy majors so that they can get higher GPAs, go to law school, and work at their daddy’s law firms.

And English becoming a joke major that only white people will do.

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