Comments on: Halal Punkers http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Islamcore Sexism vs. Krishnacore Sexism http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-2/#comment-237357 Islamcore Sexism vs. Krishnacore Sexism Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:40:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-237357 <blockquote>taqwacore is super sexist, for a group of jerks who claim to be rebelling against traditional islam they sure do like to treat us women as a bunch of groupies. </blockquote> <p>In the Krishnacore scene a few young women started their own bands. Maybe muslim women can do the same?</p> <p>The thing is though, I don't think many hardcore people would be attracted to Islam in the same way they were to the Krishna Conscious scene. In straight edge movement vegetarianism became a major theme and being that the Krishna people are veggies, that helped. Also, straight edge promotes equality being the sexes, and the straigh edge kids that got involved with Krishna Consciousness THOUGHT the Hare Krishna Movement also promoted a similar equality because their main theory is "we are not these bodies". It didn't take long for them to discover that within many Krishna temples in the West, sexism was rampant. I hear it's better now though.</p> <p>Anyway, some of the straight edge girls who became members of the Hare Krishna Movement played in the male dominated Krishnacore bands but then later created their own bands like <a href="http://tr.youtube.com/watch?v=fs9iQUFjd84"><u>Baby Gopal</u></a> and others.</p> taqwacore is super sexist, for a group of jerks who claim to be rebelling against traditional islam they sure do like to treat us women as a bunch of groupies.

In the Krishnacore scene a few young women started their own bands. Maybe muslim women can do the same?

The thing is though, I don’t think many hardcore people would be attracted to Islam in the same way they were to the Krishna Conscious scene. In straight edge movement vegetarianism became a major theme and being that the Krishna people are veggies, that helped. Also, straight edge promotes equality being the sexes, and the straigh edge kids that got involved with Krishna Consciousness THOUGHT the Hare Krishna Movement also promoted a similar equality because their main theory is “we are not these bodies”. It didn’t take long for them to discover that within many Krishna temples in the West, sexism was rampant. I hear it’s better now though.

Anyway, some of the straight edge girls who became members of the Hare Krishna Movement played in the male dominated Krishnacore bands but then later created their own bands like Baby Gopal and others.

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By: strong muslim woman http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-2/#comment-237355 strong muslim woman Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:28:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-237355 <p>taqwacore is super sexist, for a group of jerks who claim to be rebelling against traditional islam they sure do like to treat us women as a bunch of groupies.</p> taqwacore is super sexist, for a group of jerks who claim to be rebelling against traditional islam they sure do like to treat us women as a bunch of groupies.

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By: Islamcore vs. Krishnacore http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-2/#comment-237308 Islamcore vs. Krishnacore Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:48:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-237308 <p>Not my musical cup of tea but here's the video that launched veganism in the East Coast straigt edge hardcore scene back in the 80s;</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFUqrzCZOuo"> <u><b>Youth of Today - NO MORE!</b></u></a></p> <p>Here's Ray Cappo's band after Youth of Today was dismantled and he became "Raghunath Das"</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UuXFQzG8jg&feature=related"><u><b>Shelter - MESSAGE OF THE BHAGAVAT </b></u></a></p> <p>Here's another popular deathcore sounding Krishnacore group;</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es2nHjEXRF4"><u><b>108 - HOLY NAME</b></u></a></p> Not my musical cup of tea but here’s the video that launched veganism in the East Coast straigt edge hardcore scene back in the 80s;

Youth of Today – NO MORE!

Here’s Ray Cappo’s band after Youth of Today was dismantled and he became “Raghunath Das”

Shelter – MESSAGE OF THE BHAGAVAT

Here’s another popular deathcore sounding Krishnacore group;

108 – HOLY NAME

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By: Taqwacore vs. Krishnacore http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-2/#comment-237269 Taqwacore vs. Krishnacore Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:52:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-237269 <p>Taz, let's not forget the famous "Krishnacore" movement of the late 80s.</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Cappo">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Cappo</a></p> Taz, let’s not forget the famous “Krishnacore” movement of the late 80s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Cappo

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By: jamesstibbe http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-2/#comment-221025 jamesstibbe Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:05:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-221025 <p>Los Angeles interview with Michael Muhammad Knight on Muslim Punk</p> <p>http://www.la2day.com/music/inter_re_view_michael_muhammad_knight_on_muslim_punk</p> Los Angeles interview with Michael Muhammad Knight on Muslim Punk

http://www.la2day.com/music/inter_re_view_michael_muhammad_knight_on_muslim_punk

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By: bengali 2 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-1/#comment-153416 bengali 2 Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:58:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-153416 <p>Its all hype!! They just sound awful, its not even close to punk, lame techno grime music! You want real muslim punk/rock? then listen to bands like Cornhole, Overdrive, Black Warrant etc</p> Its all hype!! They just sound awful, its not even close to punk, lame techno grime music! You want real muslim punk/rock? then listen to bands like Cornhole, Overdrive, Black Warrant etc

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By: ntunes http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-1/#comment-83630 ntunes Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:44:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-83630 <p>Post your music on N-Tunes - www.naseeb.com/tunes</p> <p>Like Myspace, only much smaller. But those people need a good dose of the kominas!</p> Post your music on N-Tunes – http://www.naseeb.com/tunes

Like Myspace, only much smaller. But those people need a good dose of the kominas!

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By: popculturefailures http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-1/#comment-73536 popculturefailures Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:28:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-73536 <p>The kominas do not personify either islam nor punk...so they lack integrity on both counts.Actually they dont personify anything.</p> <p>Both these cultures,punk and islam are sacred..punk is semi sacred,due to the way it developed organically over 20 years without mainsream inteference (well in the usa especially) in in days before the internet and green day... you cant be both without polluting the purity of the other..thats why all christian punk rock is crap...muslim punk...no no no,that is the worse...as a muslim who is trying to be an ex punk..please Allah in the words of mcrad "prevent this tragerdy!" Someone mentioned mxpx.they are an average rock band,but punk..cmon.. The bad brains mixed rasta and harcore..but they were innovators, they were the first and best hardcore band ever..and people could tell that they were for real,well people ignored the rasta bit quite righly as all hardcore kids knew that there rasta talk was,well, just talk....and i doubt very much if more than a handful of rastas even knew who they were.</p> <p>The kominas on the other hand seem so contrived.The whole conscious attempt to creater some kind of desi/punk counter culture is just marketing..and most importantly its not a movemment that exist in the minds of asian people.</p> <p>Well it obvious that muhammed knight is on somepones pay roll by tryingto create a rot in islamic youth and the kominas are a bunch of uncle tom sell out whores (masquerading as radicals)who are buying the mans agenda.But you know what, Muslim alternative types will be the last to buy this shit..only the kids who are not alternative by nature will find anything cool about this lot.</p> <p>i have met kids all over the muslim world,kids who have hair down their ankles and play in death metal bands....but to them islam and rock and roll are seperate.dont mix the real with the unreal..both worlds are an escape from each other..infact islam is the only real thing that they have,so of course they dont want to mix it with pop culture.Most of these rock and roll kids havent even finished high school,but even they ,perhaps unconsciously know that what the taqwacore culture vultures are trying to do is just phony .</p> <p>It all just seems like a bunch of muslim kids trying to be punk ,rather than a bunch of punks who happen to be muslim.</p> <p>i was invovlved and still at some level involved inthe punk scene for 14 years.and the whole reason why an asian kid like myself was attracted to being a punk in the first place was to get away from the culture around me.i dont want to go to a punk concert and hear about being a muslim punk.Punk was exploring a whole side of my perosnality that had no realiton to my islamic upbringing or to the assorted parts of my asian upbrining..</p> <p>Ironically, if you create a paki punk culture,it will drive the people from these culture who would be punks anyway, away.</p> The kominas do not personify either islam nor punk…so they lack integrity on both counts.Actually they dont personify anything.

Both these cultures,punk and islam are sacred..punk is semi sacred,due to the way it developed organically over 20 years without mainsream inteference (well in the usa especially) in in days before the internet and green day… you cant be both without polluting the purity of the other..thats why all christian punk rock is crap…muslim punk…no no no,that is the worse…as a muslim who is trying to be an ex punk..please Allah in the words of mcrad “prevent this tragerdy!” Someone mentioned mxpx.they are an average rock band,but punk..cmon.. The bad brains mixed rasta and harcore..but they were innovators, they were the first and best hardcore band ever..and people could tell that they were for real,well people ignored the rasta bit quite righly as all hardcore kids knew that there rasta talk was,well, just talk….and i doubt very much if more than a handful of rastas even knew who they were.

The kominas on the other hand seem so contrived.The whole conscious attempt to creater some kind of desi/punk counter culture is just marketing..and most importantly its not a movemment that exist in the minds of asian people.

Well it obvious that muhammed knight is on somepones pay roll by tryingto create a rot in islamic youth and the kominas are a bunch of uncle tom sell out whores (masquerading as radicals)who are buying the mans agenda.But you know what, Muslim alternative types will be the last to buy this shit..only the kids who are not alternative by nature will find anything cool about this lot.

i have met kids all over the muslim world,kids who have hair down their ankles and play in death metal bands….but to them islam and rock and roll are seperate.dont mix the real with the unreal..both worlds are an escape from each other..infact islam is the only real thing that they have,so of course they dont want to mix it with pop culture.Most of these rock and roll kids havent even finished high school,but even they ,perhaps unconsciously know that what the taqwacore culture vultures are trying to do is just phony .

It all just seems like a bunch of muslim kids trying to be punk ,rather than a bunch of punks who happen to be muslim.

i was invovlved and still at some level involved inthe punk scene for 14 years.and the whole reason why an asian kid like myself was attracted to being a punk in the first place was to get away from the culture around me.i dont want to go to a punk concert and hear about being a muslim punk.Punk was exploring a whole side of my perosnality that had no realiton to my islamic upbringing or to the assorted parts of my asian upbrining..

Ironically, if you create a paki punk culture,it will drive the people from these culture who would be punks anyway, away.

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By: gstar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-1/#comment-57972 gstar Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:00:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-57972 <p>Oh I also forgot. Imaad Wasif has a new record out on Kill Rock Stars. It's pretty amazing. He's also playing guitar with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on tour. The guy is a great songwriter.</p> Oh I also forgot. Imaad Wasif has a new record out on Kill Rock Stars. It’s pretty amazing. He’s also playing guitar with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on tour. The guy is a great songwriter.

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By: Fuerza Dulce http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/19/halal_punkers/comment-page-1/#comment-57121 Fuerza Dulce Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:07:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3285#comment-57121 <p>Also, if you're looking for other interesting brown people music, check out the <a href="http://www.myspace.com/thedarchetypes">D'Archetypes</a>. :)</p> Also, if you’re looking for other interesting brown people music, check out the D’Archetypes. :)

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