Comments on: The Kafka index http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Vikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-56491 Vikram Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:58:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-56491 <p>Reminds me of that infamous telephonic exchange between a hotel guest and room-service, at a hotel in Asia, which was recorded and published in the Far East Economic Review:</p> <blockquote> <strong>Room Service</strong>: "Morny. Ruin sorbees" <strong>Guest</strong>: "Sorry, I thought I dialed room-service" <strong>Room Service</strong>: "Rye..Ruin sorbees..morny! Djewish to odor sunteen??" <strong>Guest</strong>: "Uh..yes..I'd like some bacon and eggs" <strong>Room Service</strong>: "Ow July den?" <strong>Guest</strong>: "What??" <a href="http://www.maylin.net/joke.html">link</a> </blockquote> Reminds me of that infamous telephonic exchange between a hotel guest and room-service, at a hotel in Asia, which was recorded and published in the Far East Economic Review:

Room Service: “Morny. Ruin sorbees” Guest: “Sorry, I thought I dialed room-service” Room Service: “Rye..Ruin sorbees..morny! Djewish to odor sunteen??” Guest: “Uh..yes..I’d like some bacon and eggs” Room Service: “Ow July den?” Guest: “What??” link
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By: someone else http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-56401 someone else Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:33:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-56401 <p>Thanks, Saheli :) I especially liked this part:</p> <p>Customer: It's not much of a cheese shop, is it? Wenslydale: Finest in the district! Customer: (annoyed) Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please. Wenslydale: Well, it's so clean, sir!</p> Thanks, Saheli :) I especially liked this part:

Customer: It’s not much of a cheese shop, is it? Wenslydale: Finest in the district! Customer: (annoyed) Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please. Wenslydale: Well, it’s so clean, sir!

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By: Saheli http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-56335 Saheli Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:34:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-56335 <p>I can't believe no one has brought up the <a href="http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/cheese.htm">cheese shop</a>.</p> I can’t believe no one has brought up the cheese shop.

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By: Amit http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-56250 Amit Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:41:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-56250 <p>Technophobicgeek: yeah, I know. at least in India a judicious bribe will actually get your things done</p> <p>Reminds me of a line from the book I am reading - Shantaram by Gregory Roberts <i>The dishonest bribe is the same in every country, the honest bribe is India's alone</i> So true!</p> Technophobicgeek: yeah, I know. at least in India a judicious bribe will actually get your things done

Reminds me of a line from the book I am reading – Shantaram by Gregory Roberts The dishonest bribe is the same in every country, the honest bribe is India’s alone So true!

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By: Call Centre Zombie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-56144 Call Centre Zombie Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:23:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-56144 <p>I get call centre reps phoning me from India, but mispronouncing my (perfectly common Indian) name! Why? Is it the accent coaching they receive? Are they instructed to mispronounce Indian names in the same way other people would? I don't get it.</p> I get call centre reps phoning me from India, but mispronouncing my (perfectly common Indian) name! Why? Is it the accent coaching they receive? Are they instructed to mispronounce Indian names in the same way other people would? I don’t get it.

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By: Msichana http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-56090 Msichana Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:12:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-56090 <blockquote>just because the person on the other end is indian doesnt mean he is your chuddie-buddie.....anyone else feel the same way or was i being a high-strung ass with my fellow countrymen??</blockquote> <p>Had a similar issues with my linksys wireless router cust rep. The man patronized me and asked me why I was doing the configuration and my husband wasn't. I think he thought that being guju like me gave him the right to be my 'moto bhai'.</p> <p>My all time favorite experience a project manager for a major american insurance company. The tech dept is outsourced and in India (but naturally) and despite being told that I was the only project manager in charge, the grudgy My Ranganathan Swamy always insisted upon speaking to someone 'highest up'. This was worse then the chuddie-buddie issue because he was taking out his chauvinistic grudge on me. Needless to say, the american powers that be had to look into stuff.</p> just because the person on the other end is indian doesnt mean he is your chuddie-buddie…..anyone else feel the same way or was i being a high-strung ass with my fellow countrymen??

Had a similar issues with my linksys wireless router cust rep. The man patronized me and asked me why I was doing the configuration and my husband wasn’t. I think he thought that being guju like me gave him the right to be my ‘moto bhai’.

My all time favorite experience a project manager for a major american insurance company. The tech dept is outsourced and in India (but naturally) and despite being told that I was the only project manager in charge, the grudgy My Ranganathan Swamy always insisted upon speaking to someone ‘highest up’. This was worse then the chuddie-buddie issue because he was taking out his chauvinistic grudge on me. Needless to say, the american powers that be had to look into stuff.

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By: nofixedadderess http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-56037 nofixedadderess Wed, 19 Apr 2006 01:46:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-56037 <p>1.SBC yahoo is the bane of my existence....i have actually dedicated the rest of my life to spreading ill-well and malice against that moronic evil.....till day i refuse to have a landline because of my experience with them.</p> <p>2.privatization does appear to have made some change back in india(the post about banking,reservationt etc) but then again,a 100 million people were bred on 60 years of bureacratic inertia,please do pardon them if instances like the one mentioned crop up from time to time.....and yes,i hate to say it coz it is after all unethical BUT a few palm-greasing techniques and you can have anything done,anything!</p> <p>3.regarding the call-center,my experience was a bit different.....the moment the creature on the other end figured i was indian,they would start being patronzing like'so,how do u like it in the US sir' or 'do u know this call is being routed through ahmadabad'..i was like,thats so unprofessional,i called you to have my pc fixed and not to sing 'saare jahan se achcha'....... one of my cousins back home is human resources consultant with GE overseeing the training of call-center workers,i told him to maybe incorporate it in their training as well......just because the person on the other end is indian doesnt mean he is your chuddie-buddie.....anyone else feel the same way or was i being a high-strung ass with my fellow countrymen??</p> 1.SBC yahoo is the bane of my existence….i have actually dedicated the rest of my life to spreading ill-well and malice against that moronic evil…..till day i refuse to have a landline because of my experience with them.

2.privatization does appear to have made some change back in india(the post about banking,reservationt etc) but then again,a 100 million people were bred on 60 years of bureacratic inertia,please do pardon them if instances like the one mentioned crop up from time to time…..and yes,i hate to say it coz it is after all unethical BUT a few palm-greasing techniques and you can have anything done,anything!

3.regarding the call-center,my experience was a bit different…..the moment the creature on the other end figured i was indian,they would start being patronzing like’so,how do u like it in the US sir’ or ‘do u know this call is being routed through ahmadabad’..i was like,thats so unprofessional,i called you to have my pc fixed and not to sing ‘saare jahan se achcha’……. one of my cousins back home is human resources consultant with GE overseeing the training of call-center workers,i told him to maybe incorporate it in their training as well……just because the person on the other end is indian doesnt mean he is your chuddie-buddie…..anyone else feel the same way or was i being a high-strung ass with my fellow countrymen??

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By: bytewords http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-55984 bytewords Tue, 18 Apr 2006 21:04:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-55984 <blockquote>Advice: A little Indian accent goes a long way in getting good service from these Indian call centers...do try it next time. :)</blockquote> <p>oh definitely true! some unintended pluses of globalization. the reps are exceptionally nice and at least try a little harder to be helpful.</p> <p>@gunda, i like to think it is not antagonism against surfer-dude hariharan subramaniam, but rather something nicer towards always-spelling-out-his-name venkataharan sheshashayithirunarayanan :). but you may be right of course. and no, not my name.</p> Advice: A little Indian accent goes a long way in getting good service from these Indian call centers…do try it next time. :)

oh definitely true! some unintended pluses of globalization. the reps are exceptionally nice and at least try a little harder to be helpful.

@gunda, i like to think it is not antagonism against surfer-dude hariharan subramaniam, but rather something nicer towards always-spelling-out-his-name venkataharan sheshashayithirunarayanan :) . but you may be right of course. and no, not my name.

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By: a more original name http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-55976 a more original name Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:49:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-55976 <p>Hmm... An instant where the Indian accent does NOT cut tension.</p> Hmm… An instant where the Indian accent does NOT cut tension.

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By: toolazytopickanID http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/18/the_kafka_index/comment-page-1/#comment-55966 toolazytopickanID Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:25:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3279#comment-55966 <blockquote>Competition from private sector has also affected the government run units.</blockquote> <p>yeah, even the "state" banks, notorious for their red tape, have started becoming more efficient.</p> <p>I dont think the incident narrated by manish is merely red tape. It is also squeezing-customer-out-of-last-rupee tactic whose equivalent here is your "try our program free for 30 days, but we will automtically charge u after that if u dont cancel"; private banks in india often indulge in almost-hidden, fine-print based unethical money grabbing.</p> Competition from private sector has also affected the government run units.

yeah, even the “state” banks, notorious for their red tape, have started becoming more efficient.

I dont think the incident narrated by manish is merely red tape. It is also squeezing-customer-out-of-last-rupee tactic whose equivalent here is your “try our program free for 30 days, but we will automtically charge u after that if u dont cancel”; private banks in india often indulge in almost-hidden, fine-print based unethical money grabbing.

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