Comments on: Taxi-Wallahs of America http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rakesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-113109 Rakesh Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:15:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-113109 <p>Metrocabs, Metro Cabs, Metro Radio Cabs</p> Metrocabs, Metro Cabs, Metro Radio Cabs

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By: SMR http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53512 SMR Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:00:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53512 <p><i>In NYC, brown taxi drivers are gradually being edged out by Caribbean and Africans,...</i></p> <p>sorry, just saw this.</p> In NYC, brown taxi drivers are gradually being edged out by Caribbean and Africans,…

sorry, just saw this.

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By: SMR http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53511 SMR Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:57:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53511 <p>Is it just me or has the SA cabbie population in NYC experienced a significant drop over the past couple of years? It used be heavily SA but now I see all sorts - hispanics, african americans, fob africans, whites...</p> Is it just me or has the SA cabbie population in NYC experienced a significant drop over the past couple of years? It used be heavily SA but now I see all sorts – hispanics, african americans, fob africans, whites…

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By: SP http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53432 SP Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:47:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53432 <blockquote>Isn't the injustice of one person (or 3600) worth fighting for?</blockquote> <p>Yes. For an injustice committed on 1, 10, 100 or 1 million--it is worth fighting, Taz. Thank you for underscoring the importance of organizing within any community--large or small--with a sharp eye towards those enclaves of people, those industries of workers, those smaller fiefdoms of workingclass women & men, whose voices otherwise would go unheard.</p> <p>To highlight a very recent example which hardly directly relates to labor, unions, or other traditional paradigms within which organizing occurs: if you've followed the Padilla case, you'll know that a U.S. citizen (no different than you or I or the next non-U.S. citizen, for that matter) was detained by the U.S. government in 2004. No reason was given, no bail offered, no access to a lawyer. Just detained. Now. The 5th amendment to the U.S. Constitution states in plain writing that "no person shall be . . . deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." Its not legalese. Its not complicated. And yet, somewhere in its covert administrative annals, the Administration blatantly violated one of the very esteemed constitutional rights about which it otherwise so gallantly beams. Justice Stevens himself conceded that, "at stake in this case is nothing less than the essence of a free society."</p> <p>And yet, 24 hours ago, the Supreme Court ruled that Padilla's appeal was worthless. That this so-called "enemy combatant," later moved to Miami where he [finally] faced criminal charges, posited an appeal that had since become "pointless." Pointless? Since when did it become pointless to grant an American citizen, or any "person" for that matter, due process? If today you stab me, tomorrow I charge you, and by Thursday the wound has stopped bleeding, has it become pointless for justice to be served? In good judicial form & political measure, Breyer, Souter & Ginsburg argued that the case ought be heard anyway. Instead, at the mercy of the war-mongering and cowardly administration, the Court rejected Padilla's appeal.</p> <p>Back to bengali's query:</p> <blockquote>Just out of interesting, by 'organizing' do you mean like forming a union? i.e. a worker's union?</blockquote> <p>Yes. Taz is referring to that type of organizing. And the Padilla example is another example of why its important to organize. The power (and necessity) of bringing issues like this to light, of mobilizing people & organizations around those issues, of filing amicus briefs with the Supreme Court--whatever the task may be. Organizing isn't just important; its critical. Movements happen because people organize--in communities, on schoolgrounds, in countries. Organizing is important because, detaining a U.S. citizen for three years without filing charges against him--a blatantly illegal act--not only makes a fool of our democratic & legal systems, it shames humankind. To the extent we hope to combat that, we organize.</p> <p>So we organize. Because the voices of dissent, of justice, of freedom and of <em>true</em> democracy, otherwise go unheard. Because underdogs aren't always given the front page, the ear of the White House Press Secretary, the mic. We organize because we find strength in numbers, because collective bargaining (under the traditional model of labor law) has long been one of civil rights' strongest weapons against an otherwise hegemonic, politically imbalanced society. Because there ain't no power like the power of the people (and the power of the people don't stop).</p> <p>Longest comment ever posted (sorry; got carried away)?</p> Isn’t the injustice of one person (or 3600) worth fighting for?

Yes. For an injustice committed on 1, 10, 100 or 1 million–it is worth fighting, Taz. Thank you for underscoring the importance of organizing within any community–large or small–with a sharp eye towards those enclaves of people, those industries of workers, those smaller fiefdoms of workingclass women & men, whose voices otherwise would go unheard.

To highlight a very recent example which hardly directly relates to labor, unions, or other traditional paradigms within which organizing occurs: if you’ve followed the Padilla case, you’ll know that a U.S. citizen (no different than you or I or the next non-U.S. citizen, for that matter) was detained by the U.S. government in 2004. No reason was given, no bail offered, no access to a lawyer. Just detained. Now. The 5th amendment to the U.S. Constitution states in plain writing that “no person shall be . . . deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Its not legalese. Its not complicated. And yet, somewhere in its covert administrative annals, the Administration blatantly violated one of the very esteemed constitutional rights about which it otherwise so gallantly beams. Justice Stevens himself conceded that, “at stake in this case is nothing less than the essence of a free society.”

And yet, 24 hours ago, the Supreme Court ruled that Padilla’s appeal was worthless. That this so-called “enemy combatant,” later moved to Miami where he [finally] faced criminal charges, posited an appeal that had since become “pointless.” Pointless? Since when did it become pointless to grant an American citizen, or any “person” for that matter, due process? If today you stab me, tomorrow I charge you, and by Thursday the wound has stopped bleeding, has it become pointless for justice to be served? In good judicial form & political measure, Breyer, Souter & Ginsburg argued that the case ought be heard anyway. Instead, at the mercy of the war-mongering and cowardly administration, the Court rejected Padilla’s appeal.

Back to bengali’s query:

Just out of interesting, by ‘organizing’ do you mean like forming a union? i.e. a worker’s union?

Yes. Taz is referring to that type of organizing. And the Padilla example is another example of why its important to organize. The power (and necessity) of bringing issues like this to light, of mobilizing people & organizations around those issues, of filing amicus briefs with the Supreme Court–whatever the task may be. Organizing isn’t just important; its critical. Movements happen because people organize–in communities, on schoolgrounds, in countries. Organizing is important because, detaining a U.S. citizen for three years without filing charges against him–a blatantly illegal act–not only makes a fool of our democratic & legal systems, it shames humankind. To the extent we hope to combat that, we organize.

So we organize. Because the voices of dissent, of justice, of freedom and of true democracy, otherwise go unheard. Because underdogs aren’t always given the front page, the ear of the White House Press Secretary, the mic. We organize because we find strength in numbers, because collective bargaining (under the traditional model of labor law) has long been one of civil rights’ strongest weapons against an otherwise hegemonic, politically imbalanced society. Because there ain’t no power like the power of the people (and the power of the people don’t stop).

Longest comment ever posted (sorry; got carried away)?

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By: Taz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53430 Taz Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:19:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53430 <blockquote>Sounds like you've got something to prove,</blockquote> <p>Nah, just learning to rant like an academic.</p> <blockquote> by 'organizing' do you mean like forming a union? i.e. a worker's union?</blockquote> <p>Not really- though it is one form of organizing. I see it more as getting a group of people together to push for any type of a cause. i.e. to me, almost everyone is an organizer, <a href="http://www.alternet.org/wiretap/33078/">even SM.</a></p> <p>Thanks for the link Suhail.</p> Sounds like you’ve got something to prove,

Nah, just learning to rant like an academic.

by ‘organizing’ do you mean like forming a union? i.e. a worker’s union?

Not really- though it is one form of organizing. I see it more as getting a group of people together to push for any type of a cause. i.e. to me, almost everyone is an organizer, even SM.

Thanks for the link Suhail.

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By: Suhail Kazi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53429 Suhail Kazi Wed, 05 Apr 2006 07:06:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53429 <p>Heh! guess what? 15 secs could save you 15% or more! Some URL tweaking did it.</p> <p>Try <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/nyregion/06taxi.html?ex=1144382400&en=c4dd6a30988def2c&ei=5070">this link</a>(it shd somehow get you through the backdoor) and here's the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2005/11/05/nyregion/20051106_TAXI_SLIDESHOW_1.html">slideshow</a>. Let me know if you still can't get past.</p> Heh! guess what? 15 secs could save you 15% or more! Some URL tweaking did it.

Try this link(it shd somehow get you through the backdoor) and here’s the slideshow. Let me know if you still can’t get past.

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By: Suhail Kazi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53428 Suhail Kazi Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:53:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53428 <p>Taz, sometime back there was an excellent article in the NYTimes about what happens to NYC cabs <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/nyregion/06taxi.html">when they retire</a><i>(It's currently behind the PITA Times$elect firewall, BugMeNot won't get you through)</i>. IIRC, it also covered some economics of the industry, license plates, behind-the-scenes of how some of these NYC cabs get repaired/repainted and moved to Chicago(Philly too?). If you've not already read it, you might want to. I vividly remember the step-by-step slidshow accompanying the article was v.good. (Infact, if you get hold of the article do send me a pyraytid copy of it :p Though I am not into any cab-research, but such topics are always interesting, and it seemed like one of those good off-beat articles to have).</p> Taz, sometime back there was an excellent article in the NYTimes about what happens to NYC cabs when they retire(It’s currently behind the PITA Times$elect firewall, BugMeNot won’t get you through). IIRC, it also covered some economics of the industry, license plates, behind-the-scenes of how some of these NYC cabs get repaired/repainted and moved to Chicago(Philly too?). If you’ve not already read it, you might want to. I vividly remember the step-by-step slidshow accompanying the article was v.good. (Infact, if you get hold of the article do send me a pyraytid copy of it :p Though I am not into any cab-research, but such topics are always interesting, and it seemed like one of those good off-beat articles to have).

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By: bengali http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53420 bengali Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:03:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53420 <p>That would be 'just out of interest' of course.</p> <p>BTW, enjoying your blogs!</p> That would be ‘just out of interest’ of course.

BTW, enjoying your blogs!

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By: Sphinx http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53419 Sphinx Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:03:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53419 <p>Sounds like you've got something to prove, Taz.</p> Sounds like you’ve got something to prove, Taz.

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By: bengali http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/04/04/taxiwallahs_of/comment-page-1/#comment-53418 bengali Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:02:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3231#comment-53418 <blockquote>(I just read Helen Zia's Asian American Dream that has a wonderful chapter on SAA organizing and the history of NY taxi worker organizing)</blockquote> <p>Just out of interesting, by 'organizing' do you mean like forming a union? i.e. a worker's union?</p> (I just read Helen Zia’s Asian American Dream that has a wonderful chapter on SAA organizing and the history of NY taxi worker organizing)

Just out of interesting, by ‘organizing’ do you mean like forming a union? i.e. a worker’s union?

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