Comments on: Pilgrimages ain’t what they used to be http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: razib_the_atheist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52800 razib_the_atheist Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:50:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52800 <p><i>Razib - Assuming IQs of nations are a factor to consider, could you extrapolate the same analysis you did for Saudi Arabia to other countries which developed/posess nuclear weapons?</i></p> <p>probably to some extent. one thing, i think we do need to look beyond the mean. what is important is a "smart fraction." the average IQ of a nation could be low, but if you threw in 10% of the population of ashkenazi jews that might allow them to get above a threshold of intellectual capable workers who could produce lots of nasty weapons given the will. but, my impression is that the cognitively gifted and motivated individuals in the KSA are <b>non-natives</b>. that is a consideration when we weight the possibility of their nuclear program....</p> Razib – Assuming IQs of nations are a factor to consider, could you extrapolate the same analysis you did for Saudi Arabia to other countries which developed/posess nuclear weapons?

probably to some extent. one thing, i think we do need to look beyond the mean. what is important is a “smart fraction.” the average IQ of a nation could be low, but if you threw in 10% of the population of ashkenazi jews that might allow them to get above a threshold of intellectual capable workers who could produce lots of nasty weapons given the will. but, my impression is that the cognitively gifted and motivated individuals in the KSA are non-natives. that is a consideration when we weight the possibility of their nuclear program….

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By: Beige Siege http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52731 Beige Siege Sat, 01 Apr 2006 07:47:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52731 <p>Razib - Assuming IQs of nations are a factor to consider, could you extrapolate the same analysis you did for Saudi Arabia to other countries which developed/posess nuclear weapons?</p> Razib – Assuming IQs of nations are a factor to consider, could you extrapolate the same analysis you did for Saudi Arabia to other countries which developed/posess nuclear weapons?

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By: dude(tte) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52719 dude(tte) Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:53:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52719 <p><i></p> <blockquote>Oh there's no doubt they are a bunch of wankers</blockquote> <p></i></p> <p>2nd truer statement was never said.</p> <p>i 2nd that! i would add that definitely in my own experience, the level of bigoty is refined to a fine vintage there, where i myself would have been flogged, or atleast my passport snatched.</p> <p>maybe explains why people like to stay the hell away from others ragging on the saudis, as long as nobody thinks they themselves might be similar. though saudi money travels far and wide, and extremists are hathcing like mushrooms where people only used to worry about what size goat to buy for eid, or which sandals to wear for friday prayers.</p>

Oh there’s no doubt they are a bunch of wankers

2nd truer statement was never said.

i 2nd that! i would add that definitely in my own experience, the level of bigoty is refined to a fine vintage there, where i myself would have been flogged, or atleast my passport snatched.

maybe explains why people like to stay the hell away from others ragging on the saudis, as long as nobody thinks they themselves might be similar. though saudi money travels far and wide, and extremists are hathcing like mushrooms where people only used to worry about what size goat to buy for eid, or which sandals to wear for friday prayers.

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By: bengali http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52718 bengali Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:51:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52718 <blockquote>what was i thinking. i was just going to let my words to the generating.</blockquote> <p>Google doesn't have all the answers you know. One must have some basic understanding to begin with.</p> what was i thinking. i was just going to let my words to the generating.

Google doesn’t have all the answers you know. One must have some basic understanding to begin with.

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By: bengali http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52717 bengali Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:48:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52717 <blockquote>Bengali - Are you really equating the U.S. with Saudi Arabia? Don't you think that is a stretch? Even the French wouldn't stoop so low... </blockquote> <p>Yes I am, and no it's not that much of a stretch. Illegal wars, death & destruction, political gerrymandering. What's the saying? Birds of a Feather, flock together. Saudi Arabia wouldn't <i>be</i> so audacious if it couldn't (i.e if it didn't have any support from the Uncle).</p> Bengali – Are you really equating the U.S. with Saudi Arabia? Don’t you think that is a stretch? Even the French wouldn’t stoop so low…

Yes I am, and no it’s not that much of a stretch. Illegal wars, death & destruction, political gerrymandering. What’s the saying? Birds of a Feather, flock together. Saudi Arabia wouldn’t be so audacious if it couldn’t (i.e if it didn’t have any support from the Uncle).

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By: dude(tte) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52716 dude(tte) Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:48:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52716 <blockquote>But it does matter, because it gives your comment more credibility. It's a bit like how you wouldn't ask a plumber about your sore tooth and how you wouldn't ask a dentist about your leaking tap</blockquote> <p>yes, u r correct, i do need to generate great credibility to a bunch of strangers on the interwebs. what was i thinking. i was just going to let my words to the generating. i am wrong.</p> <p>peace</p> But it does matter, because it gives your comment more credibility. It’s a bit like how you wouldn’t ask a plumber about your sore tooth and how you wouldn’t ask a dentist about your leaking tap

yes, u r correct, i do need to generate great credibility to a bunch of strangers on the interwebs. what was i thinking. i was just going to let my words to the generating. i am wrong.

peace

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By: dude(tte) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52715 dude(tte) Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:45:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52715 <p>back to the original post, likely th emajik kingdom financed pa's program, though one wonders what they get in return. this would be consistent with the way saudi gov and saudi elite and business establishment operate. unlikely they have silos dug out in the desert, unless the US dug them, and for US usage.</p> <p>and if i am wrong about my intuition, which is often right as wrong, and they do infact unbeknownst US and allies have silos they had pa's build, i am wholly reliant on israeli secret and military services to have found out about it while still the haji's were waiting to board haj plane.</p> <p>gee, i gues it would be the very first time a media outlet came out with a sensational piece to increase sellership, or purely to incite people to be incited...</p> <p>its getting dryer by the day there, the m.e. does not need sparks by overzealous mediamerchants.</p> back to the original post, likely th emajik kingdom financed pa’s program, though one wonders what they get in return. this would be consistent with the way saudi gov and saudi elite and business establishment operate. unlikely they have silos dug out in the desert, unless the US dug them, and for US usage.

and if i am wrong about my intuition, which is often right as wrong, and they do infact unbeknownst US and allies have silos they had pa’s build, i am wholly reliant on israeli secret and military services to have found out about it while still the haji’s were waiting to board haj plane.

gee, i gues it would be the very first time a media outlet came out with a sensational piece to increase sellership, or purely to incite people to be incited…

its getting dryer by the day there, the m.e. does not need sparks by overzealous mediamerchants.

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By: bengali http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52714 bengali Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:43:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52714 <blockquote>its my preference not to interced my own professional interest in this forum, does not matter.</blockquote> <p>But it does matter, because it gives your comment more credibility. It's a bit like how you wouldn't ask a plumber about your sore tooth and how you wouldn't ask a dentist about your leaking tap.</p> its my preference not to interced my own professional interest in this forum, does not matter.

But it does matter, because it gives your comment more credibility. It’s a bit like how you wouldn’t ask a plumber about your sore tooth and how you wouldn’t ask a dentist about your leaking tap.

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By: Expose http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52713 Expose Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:40:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52713 <p>Bengali - Are you really equating the U.S. with Saudi Arabia? Don't you think that is a stretch? Even the French wouldn't stoop so low...</p> Bengali – Are you really equating the U.S. with Saudi Arabia? Don’t you think that is a stretch? Even the French wouldn’t stoop so low…

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By: dude(tte) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/03/29/pilgrimages_ain_1/comment-page-2/#comment-52712 dude(tte) Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:37:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3214#comment-52712 <p><i></p> <blockquote>it's just that some people here could benefit from a few facts and rigorous concepts in their argumentation. i leave the arts posts alone so it isn't like i'm swamping this blog :)</blockquote> <p></i></p> <p>i hear what u r saying, and like i said, in many regards, i dont hve issues with ur position, a si hold some that are the same.</p> <p>and like u, i dont comment on everything, nor read everything, it isnt compulsary. others do, we obviously dont.</p> <p><i></p> <blockquote>how do you convince people without numbers? 4 is 4. words always allow you to have a get-out-of-jail card.</blockquote> <p></i></p> <p>and yes, though we all know how to google, we dont all feel like we want to. and yes, thoguh, i am assuming it is true, am not about to google this either, the admin are like minds to u, this isnt presented as a sceince and math blog, nor are the topics math and science. for all u know, i and others may do math and science as our day job, so want to not do math and science for things not considered work.</p> <p>but, i spent many a year among people whose job, and now mine, is dealing with those very subjective grey non-4=4 concrete factual world that makes up a part of vast majority of peoples everyday life, this being my own opinion based on my own experience, not a fact i have researched.</p> <p>i think i was trying to get to the point one cannot quantify everything, even if i agreed wioth yu one ought to to take away the ?? in issues, and throwing facts around is not relevant to evry topic, even if they are not in the arts.</p> <p>personally, like many readers, i comment on other completely unrelated blogs, and have my own that is 180 degrees to this one. i enjoy the comments here more than i do the topics, many of which i have already read about by the time i come here. i am sure u do to. its my preference not to interced my own professional interest in this forum, but i understand it may not be the case for others. for all u know, i am a behavioural psychologist, or a doorperson in one of the bigger hotels in the city. irrlevant. or i may be law enforcement or the nepali secret service bored out of my ear sitting in pokora with a laptop and a satellite link. does not matter.</p> <p>all i am saying is, generalisations, whether i agree with them or not, are not good in any regards. neither are numbers in all circumstances.</p> <p>peace</p> <p>PS: i may also be a forensic accountant, or simply, underemployed.</p>

it’s just that some people here could benefit from a few facts and rigorous concepts in their argumentation. i leave the arts posts alone so it isn’t like i’m swamping this blog :)

i hear what u r saying, and like i said, in many regards, i dont hve issues with ur position, a si hold some that are the same.

and like u, i dont comment on everything, nor read everything, it isnt compulsary. others do, we obviously dont.

how do you convince people without numbers? 4 is 4. words always allow you to have a get-out-of-jail card.

and yes, though we all know how to google, we dont all feel like we want to. and yes, thoguh, i am assuming it is true, am not about to google this either, the admin are like minds to u, this isnt presented as a sceince and math blog, nor are the topics math and science. for all u know, i and others may do math and science as our day job, so want to not do math and science for things not considered work.

but, i spent many a year among people whose job, and now mine, is dealing with those very subjective grey non-4=4 concrete factual world that makes up a part of vast majority of peoples everyday life, this being my own opinion based on my own experience, not a fact i have researched.

i think i was trying to get to the point one cannot quantify everything, even if i agreed wioth yu one ought to to take away the ?? in issues, and throwing facts around is not relevant to evry topic, even if they are not in the arts.

personally, like many readers, i comment on other completely unrelated blogs, and have my own that is 180 degrees to this one. i enjoy the comments here more than i do the topics, many of which i have already read about by the time i come here. i am sure u do to. its my preference not to interced my own professional interest in this forum, but i understand it may not be the case for others. for all u know, i am a behavioural psychologist, or a doorperson in one of the bigger hotels in the city. irrlevant. or i may be law enforcement or the nepali secret service bored out of my ear sitting in pokora with a laptop and a satellite link. does not matter.

all i am saying is, generalisations, whether i agree with them or not, are not good in any regards. neither are numbers in all circumstances.

peace

PS: i may also be a forensic accountant, or simply, underemployed.

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