Comments on: Media Roundup: The Trip Part II http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: AK http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48468 AK Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:35:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48468 <p>From the "<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060223-7.html">Roundtable Interview with Indian Journalists</a>" noted in the main post:</p> <blockquote>Q Between a cricket match and a Bollywood movie, what would a -- THE PRESIDENT: Cricket match and a -- Q You like watching? THE PRESIDENT: What was the second? Q It's between a Bollywood movie and a cricket match. THE PRESIDENT: I'm a cricket match person. (Laughter.) I appreciate it. As I understand it, I may have a little chance to learn something about cricket. It's a great pastime. (Laughter.) </blockquote> From the “Roundtable Interview with Indian Journalists” noted in the main post:

Q Between a cricket match and a Bollywood movie, what would a — THE PRESIDENT: Cricket match and a — Q You like watching? THE PRESIDENT: What was the second? Q It’s between a Bollywood movie and a cricket match. THE PRESIDENT: I’m a cricket match person. (Laughter.) I appreciate it. As I understand it, I may have a little chance to learn something about cricket. It’s a great pastime. (Laughter.)
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By: SMR http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48449 SMR Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:36:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48449 <p>It appears that rumors of India welcoming Bush with open arms have been...er...exaggerated. The size of the protest rallies in Delhi had to have embarassed the government. Other massive Left+Islamic rallies are planned in Hyderabad as well. Among Hindus in India, hostility against Bush seems cleanly split along class lines - it's clear the business and political class(whether Congress or BJP) is largely in favor of Bush or at least in favor of closer US-India ties, but the "aam junta" appears suspicious, if not downrigh hostile. The Indian English media is taking a moderate approach but Hindi newspapers like Dainik Jagran have been making all sorts of dark insinuations about bartering away Indian sovereignty.</p> <p>How depressing. The one American president that attempted a breakthrough between US-Indian relations is treated as though he were enemy no. 1 of India.</p> It appears that rumors of India welcoming Bush with open arms have been…er…exaggerated. The size of the protest rallies in Delhi had to have embarassed the government. Other massive Left+Islamic rallies are planned in Hyderabad as well. Among Hindus in India, hostility against Bush seems cleanly split along class lines – it’s clear the business and political class(whether Congress or BJP) is largely in favor of Bush or at least in favor of closer US-India ties, but the “aam junta” appears suspicious, if not downrigh hostile. The Indian English media is taking a moderate approach but Hindi newspapers like Dainik Jagran have been making all sorts of dark insinuations about bartering away Indian sovereignty.

How depressing. The one American president that attempted a breakthrough between US-Indian relations is treated as though he were enemy no. 1 of India.

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By: hammer_sickel http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48184 hammer_sickel Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:30:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48184 <p>Excerpts from a talk by TCA Srinivasa Raghavan's take on US-Pakistan relations which cannot be ignored:</p> <blockquote>the US doesnÂ’t really want to talk about the one issue that really matters to India -- its approach to Pakistan. <b>The US has never done anything to discipline the only country in the world that is totally and wholly dedicated to the cause of dismembering India and is a nuclear proliferator of admirable audacity. </b> the truth is that the US ........... wants to contain terrorism only against itself, which is why Pakistan is such an American darling. Net-net, donÂ’t lose sight of the most important issue in Indo-US relations: US-Pakistan relations. The rest will sort itself out eventually but not this, not as long as Pakistan makes itself useful to the US. </blockquote> Excerpts from a talk by TCA Srinivasa Raghavan’s take on US-Pakistan relations which cannot be ignored:

the US doesnÂ’t really want to talk about the one issue that really matters to India — its approach to Pakistan. The US has never done anything to discipline the only country in the world that is totally and wholly dedicated to the cause of dismembering India and is a nuclear proliferator of admirable audacity. the truth is that the US ……….. wants to contain terrorism only against itself, which is why Pakistan is such an American darling. Net-net, donÂ’t lose sight of the most important issue in Indo-US relations: US-Pakistan relations. The rest will sort itself out eventually but not this, not as long as Pakistan makes itself useful to the US.
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By: will smith http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48176 will smith Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:38:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48176 <p>why aren't you covering MY trip to india?! who cares about bush? was he invited to be a presenter on indian idol? i didn't think so.</p> <p>http://www.newkerala.com/news2.php?action=fullnews&id=15266</p> why aren’t you covering MY trip to india?! who cares about bush? was he invited to be a presenter on indian idol? i didn’t think so.

http://www.newkerala.com/news2.php?action=fullnews&id=15266

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By: Expose http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48174 Expose Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:52:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48174 <p>Oops, my bad... will read complete piece before opening my mouth... will read complete piece before opening my mouth... will read complete piece before opening my mouth... will read complete piece before opening my mouth... will read complete piece before opening my mouth...</p> Oops, my bad… will read complete piece before opening my mouth… will read complete piece before opening my mouth… will read complete piece before opening my mouth… will read complete piece before opening my mouth… will read complete piece before opening my mouth…

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By: Expose http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48173 Expose Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:49:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48173 <p>Sepia Keepers, You seem to have missed out on <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11571348/site/newsweek/">this</a> piece by Zakaria.</p> Sepia Keepers, You seem to have missed out on this piece by Zakaria.

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By: dhaavak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48172 dhaavak Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:37:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48172 <blockquote>word from a dinged dude to my younger selves... dont be in such a haste to throw aside the old-world traditions unless you have something to replace it with - at the end of the day people do business not with the smartest people, but with those who they form a kinship of "us against them". </blockquote> <p>let me explain... the seed of this was sown by a comment by Mark Tully in No Full Stops in India... he made a case for casteism and lamented the colonization of indian thought to the extent that indians started ridiculing their own traditions and practices... forgetting that this is the fabric of our society... to rend it, without having a societal framework to replace it may not be wise... the alternative for relative newcomers like us ... without centuries of tradition and social networks... is to take the path endorsed by ibsen and kierkegaard... or at least to put a positive twist to it :-) and push on through. <br>...man i'm really giving this thread the kiss of death am i not :-)</p> word from a dinged dude to my younger selves… dont be in such a haste to throw aside the old-world traditions unless you have something to replace it with – at the end of the day people do business not with the smartest people, but with those who they form a kinship of “us against them”.

let me explain… the seed of this was sown by a comment by Mark Tully in No Full Stops in India… he made a case for casteism and lamented the colonization of indian thought to the extent that indians started ridiculing their own traditions and practices… forgetting that this is the fabric of our society… to rend it, without having a societal framework to replace it may not be wise… the alternative for relative newcomers like us … without centuries of tradition and social networks… is to take the path endorsed by ibsen and kierkegaard… or at least to put a positive twist to it :-) and push on through.
…man i’m really giving this thread the kiss of death am i not :-)

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By: DESIst http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48170 DESIst Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:41:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48170 <p>Bush is <a href="http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/27bush5.htm?q=tp&file=.htm">not welcome</a> in India.</p> <p>"Bush is the topmost official of US imperialism, leading enemy of sovereignty. He is the leader of the imperialist quest of neo colonial domination and he is certainly not welcome in India"</p> <p>A protest rally of 40,000 people will be conducted in Delhi by eight parties -– the CPI-M, CPI-Marxist Leninist, CPI, Samajwadi Party, Janata Dal- Secular, India Justice Party, All India Forward Bloc, Revolutionary Socialist Party, which will begin from the capital's Ramlila Maidan at 11.30 am on Thursday.</p> <p>Down with Imperialism!</p> Bush is not welcome in India.

“Bush is the topmost official of US imperialism, leading enemy of sovereignty. He is the leader of the imperialist quest of neo colonial domination and he is certainly not welcome in India”

A protest rally of 40,000 people will be conducted in Delhi by eight parties -– the CPI-M, CPI-Marxist Leninist, CPI, Samajwadi Party, Janata Dal- Secular, India Justice Party, All India Forward Bloc, Revolutionary Socialist Party, which will begin from the capital’s Ramlila Maidan at 11.30 am on Thursday.

Down with Imperialism!

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By: dhaavak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48160 dhaavak Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:00:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48160 <p>my point in context of the original excerpt was that i sensed fofatlal's moorings were his immediate family... and the loss of these would be harsh on him - not belittling you bro - some personal context that id' rather not share on a public forum.</p> my point in context of the original excerpt was that i sensed fofatlal’s moorings were his immediate family… and the loss of these would be harsh on him – not belittling you bro – some personal context that id’ rather not share on a public forum.

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By: dhaavak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/26/media_roundup_t_1/comment-page-1/#comment-48159 dhaavak Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:51:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3059#comment-48159 <blockquote>The section I paraphrase below really hit home for me a couple of years ago when my grandfather passed away. What happens when those who we look up to and receive guidance from are no longer there to give it to us? This isnÂ’t of course strictly a cultural thing, but for children of immigrants I think it takes on an added cultural significance. As we first genners come into our own as adult Americans, its only natural that our parents, our direct connection to part of us that comes from half-way around the world, are getting older. The fear of the unknown, of the time when our parents are no longer around to guide and advise us, and what this means for our cultural identity, I think can be really puzzling. </blockquote> <p>word from a dinged dude to my younger selves... dont be in such a haste to throw aside the old-world traditions unless you have something to replace it with - at the end of the day people do business not with the smartest people, but with those who they form a kinship of "us against them".</p> The section I paraphrase below really hit home for me a couple of years ago when my grandfather passed away. What happens when those who we look up to and receive guidance from are no longer there to give it to us? This isnÂ’t of course strictly a cultural thing, but for children of immigrants I think it takes on an added cultural significance. As we first genners come into our own as adult Americans, its only natural that our parents, our direct connection to part of us that comes from half-way around the world, are getting older. The fear of the unknown, of the time when our parents are no longer around to guide and advise us, and what this means for our cultural identity, I think can be really puzzling.

word from a dinged dude to my younger selves… dont be in such a haste to throw aside the old-world traditions unless you have something to replace it with – at the end of the day people do business not with the smartest people, but with those who they form a kinship of “us against them”.

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