Comments on: Did the NY Times unfairly reject an intern? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: pessimist but optimistic. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-225424 pessimist but optimistic. Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:02:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-225424 <p>I do not appreciate coming on the internet, and seeing people trashing others like this. Would you like to see a fellow family member who has become sucessful in their life bashed in such manner? Take it from me, I know from first hand. Nancy Sharkey is my aunt. Joe Sharkey, my uncle. And ciatrix, it is just too funny how you described my aunt Nancy. She is in no way, shape, or form like that. I would know after knowing her for about 20 years.</p> <p>The NYtimes had been trashed by Vyas's professor. They do not easily forget these things, just as regular citizens never forget being humiliated. Vyas just so happened to have gone to the wrong school, and had the wrong professor. I do not see why the professor would push for Vyas to become an intern for the NYtimes, if he had truly written his critizisim the way he really felt about NYtimes. A professor should not want his student to work for a place he does not like. Also, the NYtimes had every right to reject Vyas's application. It's as simple as that. But I do believe there is something more to this Wolper. Why would he follow up to the NYtimes to ask why his student was rejected when he had critized them before? He should have left it as it was if he did not like the NYtimes.</p> I do not appreciate coming on the internet, and seeing people trashing others like this. Would you like to see a fellow family member who has become sucessful in their life bashed in such manner? Take it from me, I know from first hand. Nancy Sharkey is my aunt. Joe Sharkey, my uncle. And ciatrix, it is just too funny how you described my aunt Nancy. She is in no way, shape, or form like that. I would know after knowing her for about 20 years.

The NYtimes had been trashed by Vyas’s professor. They do not easily forget these things, just as regular citizens never forget being humiliated. Vyas just so happened to have gone to the wrong school, and had the wrong professor. I do not see why the professor would push for Vyas to become an intern for the NYtimes, if he had truly written his critizisim the way he really felt about NYtimes. A professor should not want his student to work for a place he does not like. Also, the NYtimes had every right to reject Vyas’s application. It’s as simple as that. But I do believe there is something more to this Wolper. Why would he follow up to the NYtimes to ask why his student was rejected when he had critized them before? He should have left it as it was if he did not like the NYtimes.

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By: timeswatch http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-48194 timeswatch Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:37:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-48194 <p>here's an article on the matter.</p> <p>http://media.www.rutgersobserver.com/media/paper822/news/2006/02/27/News/Times.Newark.Need.Not.Apply-1639269.shtml?sourcedomain=www.rutgersobserver.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com</p> here’s an article on the matter.

http://media.www.rutgersobserver.com/media/paper822/news/2006/02/27/News/Times.Newark.Need.Not.Apply-1639269.shtml?sourcedomain=www.rutgersobserver.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-47860 cicatrix Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:46:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-47860 <p>no worries GujuDude ;)</p> no worries GujuDude ;)

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By: Nara http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-47793 Nara Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:22:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-47793 <blockquote>there are plenty of illustrious NYT competitors like the WaPo and the WSJ, there's no monopoly</blockquote> <p>As far as good reporting, they are a real monopoly. WaPo is poor man's NYT but WSJ does not even come close. Their op-ed page is run by the Bush Administration. Paul Gigot has taken a real good op-ed and made it another NR, weekly standard. No balance. Al Hunt - where are you ? Their reporting is OK. Too much focus on dots. Thanks god they moved their weekly TV program from PBS to Faux News.</p> there are plenty of illustrious NYT competitors like the WaPo and the WSJ, there’s no monopoly

As far as good reporting, they are a real monopoly. WaPo is poor man’s NYT but WSJ does not even come close. Their op-ed page is run by the Bush Administration. Paul Gigot has taken a real good op-ed and made it another NR, weekly standard. No balance. Al Hunt – where are you ? Their reporting is OK. Too much focus on dots. Thanks god they moved their weekly TV program from PBS to Faux News.

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-47726 GujuDude Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:55:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-47726 <blockquote>er, GujuDude.. How is that a disagreement? I never said it was illegal. You basically underscored, italicised and highlighted my point.</blockquote> <p>I am a redundant idiot. :)</p> er, GujuDude.. How is that a disagreement? I never said it was illegal. You basically underscored, italicised and highlighted my point.

I am a redundant idiot. :)

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-47722 cicatrix Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:41:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-47722 <p>AK - I think GujuDude said it for me ;)</p> AK – I think GujuDude said it for me ;)

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By: AK http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-47720 AK Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:31:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-47720 <p>Cicatrix - I agree with you completely. But don't forget <a href="http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/media/features/9226/">arrogant</a>. They're <u>out-of-touch</u>, <i>elitist</i>, <em>and</em> <b>arrogant</b>, to boot.</p> Cicatrix – I agree with you completely. But don’t forget arrogant. They’re out-of-touch, elitist, and arrogant, to boot.

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-47714 cicatrix Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:14:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-47714 <p>er, GujuDude.. How is that a disagreement? I never said it was illegal. You basically underscored, italicised and highlighted my point.</p> er, GujuDude.. How is that a disagreement? I never said it was illegal. You basically underscored, italicised and highlighted my point.

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-47712 GujuDude Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:09:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-47712 <p>cicatrix:</p> <p>I agree with your assessment on how this <i>looks</i>. But the NY times doesn't have a shortage of people applying for internship positions. The Editor's attitude absolutely stinks and is arrogant and pompous. SHE has also displayed an unprofessional attitude.</p> <p>All someone in a hiring position has to say is,"Thanks for applying, but we've decided to go in a different direction."</p> <p>When asked further, all the diva of an editor had to say was,"We are currently looking at other applicants whose qualifications/resume appeal to us, thanks again for applying."</p> <p>Mentioning how she/NY times hates her professor was stupid and shows how idiotic management can get. It's petty, but not illegal. Tact and professionalism get thrown out the window.</p> cicatrix:

I agree with your assessment on how this looks. But the NY times doesn’t have a shortage of people applying for internship positions. The Editor’s attitude absolutely stinks and is arrogant and pompous. SHE has also displayed an unprofessional attitude.

All someone in a hiring position has to say is,”Thanks for applying, but we’ve decided to go in a different direction.”

When asked further, all the diva of an editor had to say was,”We are currently looking at other applicants whose qualifications/resume appeal to us, thanks again for applying.”

Mentioning how she/NY times hates her professor was stupid and shows how idiotic management can get. It’s petty, but not illegal. Tact and professionalism get thrown out the window.

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/22/ny_times_unfair/comment-page-1/#comment-47709 cicatrix Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:00:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=3044#comment-47709 <p>Manish and Gujudude,</p> <p>My point wasn't in regard to the hiring practices (though yes, I do find this unfair), it was about elitism.</p> <blockquote>In this case, the person just has the wrong professional references that aren't looked upon well. </blockquote> <p>Exactly. And the questions is: why wasn't this reference looked upon well? It's childish (as Manish put it) to snub an <i>intern</i> for the fact that one of his professors critized the company. It's elitism, of the highest order, to write "I guess if we need students from <b>New Jersey</b>, we will go elsewhere." (emphasis mine)</p> <p>The NYTimes get slammed again and again for being out-of-touch and elitist. That's a key criticism leveled against the organization by right-wingers of all stripes. The 'limousine liberal' image has seriously damaged democratic credibility.</p> <p>And what does the effn Senior Editor write? A Senior Editor who, one assumes, plays some part in determining "all the news that's fit to print"? Nothing but jejune, "snide," jabs at (again) an <i>intern</i>, instead of a serious, respectful rejection based on some tangible fact that doesn't involve sneering at the state of New Jersey.</p> <p>Ugh. Clearly Jayson Blair and Harold Raines were just symptoms of a larger malaise.</p> Manish and Gujudude,

My point wasn’t in regard to the hiring practices (though yes, I do find this unfair), it was about elitism.

In this case, the person just has the wrong professional references that aren’t looked upon well.

Exactly. And the questions is: why wasn’t this reference looked upon well? It’s childish (as Manish put it) to snub an intern for the fact that one of his professors critized the company. It’s elitism, of the highest order, to write “I guess if we need students from New Jersey, we will go elsewhere.” (emphasis mine)

The NYTimes get slammed again and again for being out-of-touch and elitist. That’s a key criticism leveled against the organization by right-wingers of all stripes. The ‘limousine liberal’ image has seriously damaged democratic credibility.

And what does the effn Senior Editor write? A Senior Editor who, one assumes, plays some part in determining “all the news that’s fit to print”? Nothing but jejune, “snide,” jabs at (again) an intern, instead of a serious, respectful rejection based on some tangible fact that doesn’t involve sneering at the state of New Jersey.

Ugh. Clearly Jayson Blair and Harold Raines were just symptoms of a larger malaise.

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