Comments on: Seeing the in-laws http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Annette http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45980 Annette Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:40:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45980 <p>Hello Everyone: From time to time, I read your articles and the comments and I find the discussions and exchange of opinions very interesting and knowledgeable. I would like to find out if the host of this site allows strangers to participate. A bit about me, am originally from Guyana but currently living in Canada, the Province where both incidents, referred to by Post #63, were orchestrated and occurred. Naipaul won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 2001. I have to admit that when I first read "A House for Mr. Biswas", I too thought he was ridiculing Indian values and customs, it was the opposite. He is a great writer. Thank you</p> Hello Everyone: From time to time, I read your articles and the comments and I find the discussions and exchange of opinions very interesting and knowledgeable. I would like to find out if the host of this site allows strangers to participate. A bit about me, am originally from Guyana but currently living in Canada, the Province where both incidents, referred to by Post #63, were orchestrated and occurred. Naipaul won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 2001. I have to admit that when I first read “A House for Mr. Biswas”, I too thought he was ridiculing Indian values and customs, it was the opposite. He is a great writer. Thank you

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By: PearlJamFan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45673 PearlJamFan Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:40:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45673 <p>About post #52</p> <p>Of the 30,000 cases of women marry NRI in India, 16,000 of those taken place in punjab. The sad thing is these women had no choice to marry, yet there lifes are all but over.</p> <p>About post # 60</p> <p>The only 2 honor killing of Canadian girls have been of punjabi sikh girls. And if this counts as an honor killing then it would be 3 for 3.</p> <p>About post # 45</p> <p>I'm sorry if I said something wrong. I have spoken out here to punjabi leaders about the issue of sexism among my people but they have fallen on deaf ears.</p> <p>It was about a year ago when the trial of Amandeep Atwal was going on. She was killed by her father for having a white boyfriend. Yet during the trial many people in the punjabi community came to support the father including the sikh temple leaders and all of the girl/father family. But nobody in the sikh/punjabi community spoke up for the dead girl. It was something that made me upset with my own family.</p> About post #52

Of the 30,000 cases of women marry NRI in India, 16,000 of those taken place in punjab. The sad thing is these women had no choice to marry, yet there lifes are all but over.

About post # 60

The only 2 honor killing of Canadian girls have been of punjabi sikh girls. And if this counts as an honor killing then it would be 3 for 3.

About post # 45

I’m sorry if I said something wrong. I have spoken out here to punjabi leaders about the issue of sexism among my people but they have fallen on deaf ears.

It was about a year ago when the trial of Amandeep Atwal was going on. She was killed by her father for having a white boyfriend. Yet during the trial many people in the punjabi community came to support the father including the sikh temple leaders and all of the girl/father family. But nobody in the sikh/punjabi community spoke up for the dead girl. It was something that made me upset with my own family.

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By: Jai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45531 Jai Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:14:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45531 <p><i>*but I don't know what the exact percentage breakdown is in that regard.</i></p> <p>Although here in the UK, the vast majority of such incidents (actual or attempted) do occur amongst Muslims.</p> *but I don’t know what the exact percentage breakdown is in that regard.

Although here in the UK, the vast majority of such incidents (actual or attempted) do occur amongst Muslims.

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By: Jai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45530 Jai Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:09:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45530 <p><b>Bengali</b>,</p> <p>Unfortunately, so-called "honour killings" occur throughout India and are not restricted to any single region or members of any particular religious community. It's right across the board.</p> <p>It probably does occur more in some communities than in others, of course, but I don't know what the exact percentage breakdown is in that regard.</p> Bengali,

Unfortunately, so-called “honour killings” occur throughout India and are not restricted to any single region or members of any particular religious community. It’s right across the board.

It probably does occur more in some communities than in others, of course, but I don’t know what the exact percentage breakdown is in that regard.

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By: bengali http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45522 bengali Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:51:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45522 <blockquote>it is difficult as hell to be a woman in india.</blockquote> <p>It's difficult as hell to be a woman in <i>any</i> developing country.</p> <p>I had no idea that Punjabis have 'honour killings' too. Thought this dreadful practice was limited to muslims :(</p> it is difficult as hell to be a woman in india.

It’s difficult as hell to be a woman in any developing country.

I had no idea that Punjabis have ‘honour killings’ too. Thought this dreadful practice was limited to muslims :(

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By: Duur http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45372 Duur Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:42:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45372 <p>This talk of misogynistic attitudes in India reminds me of this woman in Bangalore who started a project to bring awareness to the problem with 'eve-teasing'. I am not sure if the website was put up here but I think it is quite commendable. One step towards reducing the commidification of women in India really.</p> This talk of misogynistic attitudes in India reminds me of this woman in Bangalore who started a project to bring awareness to the problem with ‘eve-teasing’. I am not sure if the website was put up here but I think it is quite commendable. One step towards reducing the commidification of women in India really.

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By: theresa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45361 theresa Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:19:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45361 <p>"why should't the first reaction be, "why does this happen and how can we stop it?", rather than automatically jumping to how this makes us look?????????"</p> <p>excellent point.</p> <p>--</p> <p>it is difficult as hell to be a woman in india.</p> <p>i was in jaipur this weekend on business, was meeting some colleagues for dinner, got lost on the way, my auto driver stopped to ask directions, and the young men who gave him directions spied me, a single female, in the backseat and preceded to corner me and grab me in various disgusting ways in the moments it took for me to get the auto driver to speed off.</p> <p>this is just one incident, just one night, but my telling it will probably spark the memory of many women reading this to remember their own encounters with public physical assault/molesting -- it is just that common.</p> <p>i believe a similar issue prevails with domestic violence -- beating a woman does not have the same signifigance as beating a child because, and forgive me the lack of numbers but it's 1 am and i don't want to look it up, the cases of child abuse in terms of beating of children (not sexual) is extremely low in comparison to wife-beating. that adds another dimension.</p> <p>on another note: there was a discussion on the "missing girls" -- this past week, i was in a village in rajasthan, near jaisalmer, meeting with women that were organizing into a self-help group and they openly admitted to female infanticide (but claimed that only the men commit it, and usually while drunk) and a door-to-door survey revealed a sex ratio that roughly works out to 500 girls for every 1000 boys. so it would seem the girls are missing still.</p> “why should’t the first reaction be, “why does this happen and how can we stop it?”, rather than automatically jumping to how this makes us look?????????”

excellent point.

it is difficult as hell to be a woman in india.

i was in jaipur this weekend on business, was meeting some colleagues for dinner, got lost on the way, my auto driver stopped to ask directions, and the young men who gave him directions spied me, a single female, in the backseat and preceded to corner me and grab me in various disgusting ways in the moments it took for me to get the auto driver to speed off.

this is just one incident, just one night, but my telling it will probably spark the memory of many women reading this to remember their own encounters with public physical assault/molesting — it is just that common.

i believe a similar issue prevails with domestic violence — beating a woman does not have the same signifigance as beating a child because, and forgive me the lack of numbers but it’s 1 am and i don’t want to look it up, the cases of child abuse in terms of beating of children (not sexual) is extremely low in comparison to wife-beating. that adds another dimension.

on another note: there was a discussion on the “missing girls” — this past week, i was in a village in rajasthan, near jaisalmer, meeting with women that were organizing into a self-help group and they openly admitted to female infanticide (but claimed that only the men commit it, and usually while drunk) and a door-to-door survey revealed a sex ratio that roughly works out to 500 girls for every 1000 boys. so it would seem the girls are missing still.

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By: Naipaul lover http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45340 Naipaul lover Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:11:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45340 <blockquote>but when it's just me and his words on a page, I think: man, can he write.</blockquote> <p>Well said MD. The only way a reader should enjoy writing. Leave their politics and opinions out of it (especially when you are reading fiction). Naipaul,rightly, is considered to be in the top tier of today's writrs.</p> but when it’s just me and his words on a page, I think: man, can he write.

Well said MD. The only way a reader should enjoy writing. Leave their politics and opinions out of it (especially when you are reading fiction). Naipaul,rightly, is considered to be in the top tier of today’s writrs.

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By: Anuj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45335 Anuj Wed, 08 Feb 2006 17:51:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45335 <p>This incident sure is sad and unfortunate. It also shoked me as I grew up seeing my friends' sister get blessings (along with $$) from a local pundit in an annual "kanya puja" (girl prayer/blessings).</p> This incident sure is sad and unfortunate. It also shoked me as I grew up seeing my friends’ sister get blessings (along with $$) from a local pundit in an annual “kanya puja” (girl prayer/blessings).

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By: sdit http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/02/07/visiting_the_in/comment-page-2/#comment-45329 sdit Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:59:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2972#comment-45329 <p>Thanks for bringing up such a thought provoking issue!</p> <p>It's a very real and sad reality, but it's something that needs to be changed by the newer generations that have grown out of and away from such practices.<br /> Rather than developing a <i><b>self loathing</b></i> attitude and attempting to distance and disconnect ourselves, we should approach the issue head on. I am not Indian, but as a Pakistani I know that these practices and other gruesome incidences happen as easily in either country.<br /> It is disgusting and embarrasing, but every country has it's own set of issues....this one just happens to be predominant in that area.<br /> Awareness and education are the stepping stones towards change. This is a good start.</p> Thanks for bringing up such a thought provoking issue!

It’s a very real and sad reality, but it’s something that needs to be changed by the newer generations that have grown out of and away from such practices.
Rather than developing a self loathing attitude and attempting to distance and disconnect ourselves, we should approach the issue head on. I am not Indian, but as a Pakistani I know that these practices and other gruesome incidences happen as easily in either country.
It is disgusting and embarrasing, but every country has it’s own set of issues….this one just happens to be predominant in that area.
Awareness and education are the stepping stones towards change. This is a good start.

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