Comments on: Vinay Lal is "dirty" http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sunny http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43771 Sunny Sun, 29 Jan 2006 02:08:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43771 <p>"its roots can be traced to Christian theology'</p> <p>That explains Socrates.</p> <p>Neoconservatives form a small part of the conservative movement. They are liberal on social issues, support big government. Their sacred cause is Israel. The common thread of the dirty thirty is criticism of Israel. Criticism of Israel is a political heresy to neoconservatives. Who said heresy hunts no longer exist?</p> “its roots can be traced to Christian theology’

That explains Socrates.

Neoconservatives form a small part of the conservative movement. They are liberal on social issues, support big government. Their sacred cause is Israel. The common thread of the dirty thirty is criticism of Israel. Criticism of Israel is a political heresy to neoconservatives. Who said heresy hunts no longer exist?

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By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43567 Manish Vij Fri, 27 Jan 2006 15:42:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43567 <blockquote>It is no coincidence that there hasn't been another 9/11 on Bush's watch.</blockquote> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_implies_causation_(logical_fallacy)">Correlation fallacy</a> a la "there hasn't been another 9/11 after I switched to boxers" and "there wasn't a 9/11 during Clinton's second term." A-Q takes years to plan each op.</p> It is no coincidence that there hasn’t been another 9/11 on Bush’s watch.

Correlation fallacy a la “there hasn’t been another 9/11 after I switched to boxers” and “there wasn’t a 9/11 during Clinton’s second term.” A-Q takes years to plan each op.

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By: jak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43548 jak Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:52:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43548 <p>If vinay lal defended the london bombings (and used gandhi to justify them, to boot), then he is a freaking idiot and i'm sorry that he's on the left (as I am). He is the kind of leftist who makes the rest of us look like idiots, and who, in his so-called resistance to the right, only makes us look less credible and downright idiotic. of course he has a right to say and write whatever he wants. no argument there. but with leftists like this, we dont need rightists. we'll screw ourselves just fine.</p> If vinay lal defended the london bombings (and used gandhi to justify them, to boot), then he is a freaking idiot and i’m sorry that he’s on the left (as I am). He is the kind of leftist who makes the rest of us look like idiots, and who, in his so-called resistance to the right, only makes us look less credible and downright idiotic. of course he has a right to say and write whatever he wants. no argument there. but with leftists like this, we dont need rightists. we’ll screw ourselves just fine.

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By: sam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43539 sam Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:22:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43539 <p>Brown of the preceding post you are right. The problem is it's not just campuses where for example it has become de rigeur to denounce Bush, even right here on this site you can't voice an alternate opinion without being charged with "model minority" , "sellout" or other such disparaging labels. Most of these people just exaggerate and are very paranoid. Just look at what happened at Georgetown University Law School. The students protesting against the recent wiretapping wouldn't even listen to what Alito has to say on the subject. Most of these protesters ( future lawyers ) had come with there minds made up already. They wouldn't give the other side a chance to be heard. It is no coincidence that there hasn't been another 9/11 on Bush's watch. Here in New York, liberals go around lecturing the world how to lead their lives but elect a Guliani or Bloomberg to run their own backyard. The real problem is that there is no <i>real</i> problem in America compared to other parts of the world where people are fighting for democracy, against poverty and corruption and dying for want of basic human freedom and rights. So what do the well fed and overread young Americans do? They create issues out of non issues and become some sort of pseudoactivists. It's so cool. They finally have something to fight for. They are hip and to remain that way they have to be anti-establishment. A great majority of them can't hold their own in a very elementary debate. Unfortunately this phenomenon has also rubbed off on to a lot of well fed and overread Indian- Americans. What has also rubbed off is the minority victim/grievance mentality.</p> Brown of the preceding post you are right. The problem is it’s not just campuses where for example it has become de rigeur to denounce Bush, even right here on this site you can’t voice an alternate opinion without being charged with “model minority” , “sellout” or other such disparaging labels. Most of these people just exaggerate and are very paranoid. Just look at what happened at Georgetown University Law School. The students protesting against the recent wiretapping wouldn’t even listen to what Alito has to say on the subject. Most of these protesters ( future lawyers ) had come with there minds made up already. They wouldn’t give the other side a chance to be heard. It is no coincidence that there hasn’t been another 9/11 on Bush’s watch. Here in New York, liberals go around lecturing the world how to lead their lives but elect a Guliani or Bloomberg to run their own backyard. The real problem is that there is no real problem in America compared to other parts of the world where people are fighting for democracy, against poverty and corruption and dying for want of basic human freedom and rights. So what do the well fed and overread young Americans do? They create issues out of non issues and become some sort of pseudoactivists. It’s so cool. They finally have something to fight for. They are hip and to remain that way they have to be anti-establishment. A great majority of them can’t hold their own in a very elementary debate. Unfortunately this phenomenon has also rubbed off on to a lot of well fed and overread Indian- Americans. What has also rubbed off is the minority victim/grievance mentality.

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By: brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43537 brown Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:30:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43537 <p>well... its quite true, american campuses are, and have been for increasingly long periods, sanctuaries of leftist propaganda. now theres nothing wrong in holding deep-seated poltical and ideological views, its the caustic and brutal "turn the tide of neoconservatism" crusade that these clinton-lovers are on. I admire Dinesh and his work in spreading logic and true "progressivism" by dismissing the disoriented liberal front and his work while an undergrad at Dartmouth (esp. with the Dartmouth Review) in showing the true motives behind these socialist sympathizers. So props to him and other indian-americans who uphold objectivity, values, and our free-market society! open-minded DISCUSSION needs to happen at campuses, not ideological progandazing of often politically immature and unsuspecting undergrads.</p> well… its quite true, american campuses are, and have been for increasingly long periods, sanctuaries of leftist propaganda. now theres nothing wrong in holding deep-seated poltical and ideological views, its the caustic and brutal “turn the tide of neoconservatism” crusade that these clinton-lovers are on. I admire Dinesh and his work in spreading logic and true “progressivism” by dismissing the disoriented liberal front and his work while an undergrad at Dartmouth (esp. with the Dartmouth Review) in showing the true motives behind these socialist sympathizers. So props to him and other indian-americans who uphold objectivity, values, and our free-market society! open-minded DISCUSSION needs to happen at campuses, not ideological progandazing of often politically immature and unsuspecting undergrads.

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By: Tom http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43374 Tom Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:49:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43374 <blockquote>It's the liberals who drive them rushing into the arms of Limbaugh and Hannity. </blockquote> <p>Rrrrgith! It must be healthy living liberals who are driving them towards junk food, sugar, tobacco and alcohol.</p> It’s the liberals who drive them rushing into the arms of Limbaugh and Hannity.

Rrrrgith! It must be healthy living liberals who are driving them towards junk food, sugar, tobacco and alcohol.

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By: sam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43330 sam Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:43:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43330 <p>You are right Razib. But I want to ask my liberal friends who are always trying to figure out the 'root cause' of things ( suicide bombings, minority crime e.t.c ) , to go figure why millions of Americans so slavishly listen to morons like Hannity. I don't think these listeners are inherently jingoistic, bigoted, parochial e.t.c It's the liberals who drive them rushing into the arms of Limbaugh and Hannity. You have to give credit to these radio talk show morons for at least talking about issues which the politically correct media won't touch with a ten foot pole.</p> You are right Razib. But I want to ask my liberal friends who are always trying to figure out the ‘root cause’ of things ( suicide bombings, minority crime e.t.c ) , to go figure why millions of Americans so slavishly listen to morons like Hannity. I don’t think these listeners are inherently jingoistic, bigoted, parochial e.t.c It’s the liberals who drive them rushing into the arms of Limbaugh and Hannity. You have to give credit to these radio talk show morons for at least talking about issues which the politically correct media won’t touch with a ten foot pole.

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By: razib_the_atheist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43328 razib_the_atheist Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:27:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43328 <p>sam, sean hannity is notoriously dumb. thatz a sin from the get-go in my book. and is he reall <b>all that</b> in the looks department?</p> sam, sean hannity is notoriously dumb. thatz a sin from the get-go in my book. and is he reall all that in the looks department?

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By: sam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43326 sam Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:12:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43326 <p>As a Republican who doesn't quite like Hannity, Limbaugh and Co, I am delighted to finally hear someone who is giving Hannity a run for his money as I write this. The guy's name is Bob and he is filling in for Allan Colmes. This Bob guy is ballistic!!</p> As a Republican who doesn’t quite like Hannity, Limbaugh and Co, I am delighted to finally hear someone who is giving Hannity a run for his money as I write this. The guy’s name is Bob and he is filling in for Allan Colmes. This Bob guy is ballistic!!

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By: razib_the_atheist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2006/01/25/vinay_lal_is_di/comment-page-1/#comment-43322 razib_the_atheist Thu, 26 Jan 2006 03:05:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2889#comment-43322 <p><i>1. pro-lifers and believe in sanctity of life</i></p> <p>the man who coined the term "neocon," irving kristol, is prochoice. as is charles krauthammer. political arguments are pointless. i think the neocons, even correctly interpreted, are wrong and at worst pernicious, but i don't see liberals as saints.</p> <p>the reality is that the term "neocon" has no meaning that has any relation to what it did historically. which is fine. but some of the attributes of neocons are still accurate (the israel first tendencies), so i think that people have a vague sense that neocons aren't generic evil-conservatives.</p> 1. pro-lifers and believe in sanctity of life

the man who coined the term “neocon,” irving kristol, is prochoice. as is charles krauthammer. political arguments are pointless. i think the neocons, even correctly interpreted, are wrong and at worst pernicious, but i don’t see liberals as saints.

the reality is that the term “neocon” has no meaning that has any relation to what it did historically. which is fine. but some of the attributes of neocons are still accurate (the israel first tendencies), so i think that people have a vague sense that neocons aren’t generic evil-conservatives.

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