Comments on: A letter to the editor http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: rtiludhiana http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-265761 rtiludhiana Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:30:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-265761 <p>The most disquieting aspect of the wide spread corruption in India is the fact that it is not any more confined to politicians or the govt. machinery alone. It is prevalent amongst almost every section of the society at every level. It is the time we the citizens do our bit to uproot corruption from our state. In website www. rtiludhiana.com is our endeavor to create awareness to the public.</p> The most disquieting aspect of the wide spread corruption in India is the fact that it is not any more confined to politicians or the govt. machinery alone. It is prevalent amongst almost every section of the society at every level. It is the time we the citizens do our bit to uproot corruption from our state. In website www. rtiludhiana.com is our endeavor to create awareness to the public.

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By: Seeker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40233 Seeker Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:33:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40233 <p>This bobby jindal guy is quite shady. As someone mentioned earlier, I have seen news about him cribbing regarding the hurricane, but not much about him doing something. Its unfortunate that he supports this Act though not shocking. Indians don't have a strong history of standing up for the right thing particularly outside their country (Gandhi notwithstanding). It takes a whole different level of sacrifice and commitment to have the courage to stand again the majority opinion and then the wherewithall to succeed. Jindal doesnt' care about all that.</p> <p>BTW, those who think we should have this Act, do check out the letter of protest linked above. The examples it provides are excellent - a student would be criminal if his academic load dropped below the required for fulltime status by just one credit hr, any H1b person would be a criminal if they failed to send change of address within 10 days etc...</p> This bobby jindal guy is quite shady. As someone mentioned earlier, I have seen news about him cribbing regarding the hurricane, but not much about him doing something. Its unfortunate that he supports this Act though not shocking. Indians don’t have a strong history of standing up for the right thing particularly outside their country (Gandhi notwithstanding). It takes a whole different level of sacrifice and commitment to have the courage to stand again the majority opinion and then the wherewithall to succeed. Jindal doesnt’ care about all that.

BTW, those who think we should have this Act, do check out the letter of protest linked above. The examples it provides are excellent – a student would be criminal if his academic load dropped below the required for fulltime status by just one credit hr, any H1b person would be a criminal if they failed to send change of address within 10 days etc…

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By: Pinky Loves Bunty http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40175 Pinky Loves Bunty Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:27:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40175 <p>Addendum to previous post:</p> <p>Many of the Desi Republicans i run across think only with their wallets and often do seek some sort of acceptance by "Y-T". Of course, the impact of the social stance of the modern GOP is completely left behind. Do they not realize that they are only welcome at the Grand Ole Party as long as the checks keep coming and they keep stepping and fetching?</p> Addendum to previous post:

Many of the Desi Republicans i run across think only with their wallets and often do seek some sort of acceptance by “Y-T”. Of course, the impact of the social stance of the modern GOP is completely left behind. Do they not realize that they are only welcome at the Grand Ole Party as long as the checks keep coming and they keep stepping and fetching?

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By: Pinky Loves Bunty http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40173 Pinky Loves Bunty Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:22:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40173 <p>F--- Bobby Jindal. Excuse me, PIYUSH Jindal - he insisted, rather vehemently, at a very young age that people start calling him Bobby. And then the "conversion" to Catholicism...</p> <p>Most Indian Republicans i've run across are not unlike many black Republicans. A bit of self-hate and lack-of-melanin envy, perhaps?</p> <p>I sincerely respect fiscal conservatism and individual responsibilty, but these modern GOP types go well beyond that.</p> F— Bobby Jindal. Excuse me, PIYUSH Jindal – he insisted, rather vehemently, at a very young age that people start calling him Bobby. And then the “conversion” to Catholicism…

Most Indian Republicans i’ve run across are not unlike many black Republicans. A bit of self-hate and lack-of-melanin envy, perhaps?

I sincerely respect fiscal conservatism and individual responsibilty, but these modern GOP types go well beyond that.

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By: Kiran http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40103 Kiran Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:37:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40103 <p>This is semi-related to the criminalization of immigrants. The city of Manassas, VA has enacted a law that restricts households to immediate relatives only, an action specifically targetting the latino population.</p> <p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/29/AR2005122901410.html">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/29/AR2005122901410.html</a></p> This is semi-related to the criminalization of immigrants. The city of Manassas, VA has enacted a law that restricts households to immediate relatives only, an action specifically targetting the latino population.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/29/AR2005122901410.html

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By: lakshmishakti http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40074 lakshmishakti Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:28:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40074 <p>K Tandon Of course one can never just praise anyone. However most people do not have the facts or even a semblance of them. All they see in the media is that someone is makin' it and are pleased/critical. And there are few heroes who are totally heroic or blameless.</p> <p>Re American Jews: Have lived with them, among them here happily and can only say it is the very, very rare one who acknowledges the colonization of Palestine (or even goes on and on about some corrupt Jew). In fact the original word was 'colonize' in the proposal, later changed to settler. And no I have certainly not come across many who criticise their faith or practices, they simply say they are nonobservant....</p> K Tandon Of course one can never just praise anyone. However most people do not have the facts or even a semblance of them. All they see in the media is that someone is makin’ it and are pleased/critical. And there are few heroes who are totally heroic or blameless.

Re American Jews: Have lived with them, among them here happily and can only say it is the very, very rare one who acknowledges the colonization of Palestine (or even goes on and on about some corrupt Jew). In fact the original word was ‘colonize’ in the proposal, later changed to settler. And no I have certainly not come across many who criticise their faith or practices, they simply say they are nonobservant….

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40071 Kush Tandon Fri, 30 Dec 2005 05:16:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40071 <p>Officially, <a href="http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/FAQForex.aspx"> NRI</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.indianembassy.org/policy/PIO/Introduction_PIO.html">PIO</a></p> <p>I guess technically only a person with Indian passport is NRI and others are/ can PIO</p> Officially, NRI

PIO

I guess technically only a person with Indian passport is NRI and others are/ can PIO

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40069 Kush Tandon Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:50:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40069 <p><i>Hmmm this isn't how I perceived it. </i></p> <p>That is how I used to think and then I went to <b>Indian Embassy website</b>. It confused me more as they are constantly changing the definitions - also had to do with change from NDA to UPA government, and still is in flux (there are some technical, controversial issues about cutoff dates for OCI,etc) . Also, I have some friends who are American citizens who have medium-sized software businesses in India and they are broadly labeled as "NRI" maybe because they are bringing in cash to the country (till OCI - Oversees Citizenship of India is in place). In fact, there was a huge meeting in India by NDA Government - I am forgetting the details - even Kalpana Chawla was there - was about global Indians bringing in cash. <a href="http://www.indianembassy.org/consular/Overseas_Citizen/OCI.html">There is going to be a new category</a> - <b>Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI)</b> and then your definittion of NRI will be the correct one. There is one more category, NRE = Non-Resident External for business purposes.</p> <p><i>NRI and similar terms in social setting is one thing and for offical purposes means something else (and keeps changing too).</i></p> Hmmm this isn’t how I perceived it.

That is how I used to think and then I went to Indian Embassy website. It confused me more as they are constantly changing the definitions – also had to do with change from NDA to UPA government, and still is in flux (there are some technical, controversial issues about cutoff dates for OCI,etc) . Also, I have some friends who are American citizens who have medium-sized software businesses in India and they are broadly labeled as “NRI” maybe because they are bringing in cash to the country (till OCI – Oversees Citizenship of India is in place). In fact, there was a huge meeting in India by NDA Government – I am forgetting the details – even Kalpana Chawla was there – was about global Indians bringing in cash. There is going to be a new categoryOverseas Citizenship of India (OCI) and then your definittion of NRI will be the correct one. There is one more category, NRE = Non-Resident External for business purposes.

NRI and similar terms in social setting is one thing and for offical purposes means something else (and keeps changing too).

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By: Janeofalltrades http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40066 Janeofalltrades Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:29:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40066 <blockquote>NRI = loosely a person of Indian ancestory who does not live in India (permanently or temporarily). I think this term is now being replaced by PIO (Person of Indian Origin). If you went to Indian Embassy website, they have more formal definitions for NRI, PIO for business purpose.</blockquote> <p>Hmmm this isn't how I perceived it. To me a NRI (non resident Indian) is someone that is an INDIAN according to his passport/connection/citizenry but living outside of India. A PIO is just that "person of Indian origin" and that can apply to anyone who might have any Indian ancestry irrespective of how many generations ago the ancestors left India.</p> NRI = loosely a person of Indian ancestory who does not live in India (permanently or temporarily). I think this term is now being replaced by PIO (Person of Indian Origin). If you went to Indian Embassy website, they have more formal definitions for NRI, PIO for business purpose.

Hmmm this isn’t how I perceived it. To me a NRI (non resident Indian) is someone that is an INDIAN according to his passport/connection/citizenry but living outside of India. A PIO is just that “person of Indian origin” and that can apply to anyone who might have any Indian ancestry irrespective of how many generations ago the ancestors left India.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/29/a_letter_to_the/comment-page-1/#comment-40064 RC Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:21:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2792#comment-40064 <blockquote>Thats weird. The first generation(Whom India Abroad cater to) are hailing Mr Jindal even though his acts go against them. While second generation(most signatory like Ms Gupta) are opposiing him even though what he is doing is just safeguarding America's interests.</blockquote> <p>The reason second gen'ers oppose him, is that they can see thru' his BS. They have a BS meter. First gen'ers dont have it when it comes to American cultural aspects.</p> <blockquote>Last November, people in Delhi were celebrating like they would for their daughter's wedding when Bobby Jindal won. Crazy stuff........I was in Delhi and found it very hilarious.</blockquote> <p>Its hillarious and sad. Not being able to see the 'big picture' is in my view has always been a weakness Indians had. Also, there is still mentality of "proving" that we are worthy. Comes from insecurity and low self-worth.</p> Thats weird. The first generation(Whom India Abroad cater to) are hailing Mr Jindal even though his acts go against them. While second generation(most signatory like Ms Gupta) are opposiing him even though what he is doing is just safeguarding America’s interests.

The reason second gen’ers oppose him, is that they can see thru’ his BS. They have a BS meter. First gen’ers dont have it when it comes to American cultural aspects.

Last November, people in Delhi were celebrating like they would for their daughter’s wedding when Bobby Jindal won. Crazy stuff……..I was in Delhi and found it very hilarious.

Its hillarious and sad. Not being able to see the ‘big picture’ is in my view has always been a weakness Indians had. Also, there is still mentality of “proving” that we are worthy. Comes from insecurity and low self-worth.

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