Comments on: Wild Mustangs http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/wild_mustangs/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/wild_mustangs/comment-page-1/#comment-39563 Guru Gulab Khatri Sat, 24 Dec 2005 03:21:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2773#comment-39563 <blockquote>Interestingly, the Indian communists (and other Indian pseudo-progressives) support China on Tibet issue but protest against US when it comes to Cuba/Iraq/China etc.. lamenting [only] the US as imperialist!!!</blockquote> <p>Well the US can and has been imperialist. Its the result of their european ancestory. I dont see the issues as related. The CPI-ML still is supported by china, and their views are sickening. There isnt a progressive movement in india(progressive defined as an american left leaning progressive). Congress, BJP both have strains which are critical of US(and China for that matter). These issues cant be looked in an american radio talkshow left vs right format.</p> Interestingly, the Indian communists (and other Indian pseudo-progressives) support China on Tibet issue but protest against US when it comes to Cuba/Iraq/China etc.. lamenting [only] the US as imperialist!!!

Well the US can and has been imperialist. Its the result of their european ancestory. I dont see the issues as related. The CPI-ML still is supported by china, and their views are sickening. There isnt a progressive movement in india(progressive defined as an american left leaning progressive). Congress, BJP both have strains which are critical of US(and China for that matter). These issues cant be looked in an american radio talkshow left vs right format.

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By: hammer_sickel http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/wild_mustangs/comment-page-1/#comment-39469 hammer_sickel Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:51:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2773#comment-39469 <p>Interestingly, the Indian communists (and other Indian pseudo-progressives) support China on Tibet issue but protest against US when it comes to Cuba/Iraq/China etc.. lamenting [only] the US as imperialist!!!</p> Interestingly, the Indian communists (and other Indian pseudo-progressives) support China on Tibet issue but protest against US when it comes to Cuba/Iraq/China etc.. lamenting [only] the US as imperialist!!!

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By: Abi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/wild_mustangs/comment-page-1/#comment-39408 Abi Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:26:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2773#comment-39408 <p>You can read Tenzin Tsundue's truly wonderful, Outlook-Picador Prize-winning essay <a href="http://www.friends-of-tibet.org.nz/news/april_2001_update_5.htm">here</a>. This quote is about how he felt during the opening ceremony of the Sydney Olympics:</p> <p>[begin quote] "Night comes down, but your stars are missing"</p> <p>Neruda spoke for me when I was silent, drowned in tears. Quietly watching the rest of the show I was heavy and breathless. They talked about borderlessness and building brotherhood through the spirit of games. From the comfort of home they talked about coming together for one humanity and defying borders. What can I, a refugee, talk about except the wish to go back home? [end quote]</p> You can read Tenzin Tsundue’s truly wonderful, Outlook-Picador Prize-winning essay here. This quote is about how he felt during the opening ceremony of the Sydney Olympics:

[begin quote] “Night comes down, but your stars are missing”

Neruda spoke for me when I was silent, drowned in tears. Quietly watching the rest of the show I was heavy and breathless. They talked about borderlessness and building brotherhood through the spirit of games. From the comfort of home they talked about coming together for one humanity and defying borders. What can I, a refugee, talk about except the wish to go back home? [end quote]

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By: aranyi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/wild_mustangs/comment-page-1/#comment-39399 aranyi Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:29:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2773#comment-39399 <p>good movies on Tibet - Kundun, Windhorse. Was horrified by some of the documented facts of the Gu Chu Sum Movement.</p> good movies on Tibet – Kundun, Windhorse. Was horrified by some of the documented facts of the Gu Chu Sum Movement.

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By: aranyi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/wild_mustangs/comment-page-1/#comment-39398 aranyi Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:27:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2773#comment-39398 <p>Oh god, this makes me so emotional suddenly... I did the whole member of Students for a free Tibet thing, met Tenzin Tsundue in Bombay, bought his book of poems (he's an MA in Lit.), was so sad at some of them. I gave up because it seemed so futile... nothing was going to happen... I don't know what they are doing now... therew as teh Panchen Lama racket a decade ago... they will porbbaly become citizens, but I imagine most are holding on to a Tibetan Dream. It's so sad. China did the whole oil digging thing in Tibet with BP that Bush is doing in Iraq. History really repeats itself, and politics is really about the self. Sorry this is so confused.</p> Oh god, this makes me so emotional suddenly… I did the whole member of Students for a free Tibet thing, met Tenzin Tsundue in Bombay, bought his book of poems (he’s an MA in Lit.), was so sad at some of them. I gave up because it seemed so futile… nothing was going to happen… I don’t know what they are doing now… therew as teh Panchen Lama racket a decade ago… they will porbbaly become citizens, but I imagine most are holding on to a Tibetan Dream. It’s so sad. China did the whole oil digging thing in Tibet with BP that Bush is doing in Iraq. History really repeats itself, and politics is really about the self. Sorry this is so confused.

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By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/wild_mustangs/comment-page-1/#comment-39373 Guru Gulab Khatri Thu, 22 Dec 2005 04:02:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2773#comment-39373 <p>Administrator please remove comment 1 My bad i got the name of the documentary wrong its <b>The Shadow Circus: The CIA in Tibet</b> by Tenzing Sonam and his wife Ritu Sarin. Here's the <a href="http://www.friendsoftibet.org/databank/usdefence/usd7.html">link</a> Great powers can use you like a disposable toy in their practical jokes.</p> <blockquote> 'We had great expectations when we went to America. We thought perhaps they would even give us an atom bomb to take back,' says Tenzin Tsultrim. 'In the training period, we learned that the objective was to gain our independence,' adds another grizzled veteran. But the Americans had other ideas. 'The whole idea was to keep the Chinese occupied, keep them annoyed, keep them disturbed. Nobody wanted to go to war over Tibet...It was a nuisance operation. Basically, nothing more,' says former CIA agent Sam Halpern. </blockquote> Administrator please remove comment 1 My bad i got the name of the documentary wrong its The Shadow Circus: The CIA in Tibet by Tenzing Sonam and his wife Ritu Sarin. Here’s the link Great powers can use you like a disposable toy in their practical jokes.

‘We had great expectations when we went to America. We thought perhaps they would even give us an atom bomb to take back,’ says Tenzin Tsultrim. ‘In the training period, we learned that the objective was to gain our independence,’ adds another grizzled veteran. But the Americans had other ideas. ‘The whole idea was to keep the Chinese occupied, keep them annoyed, keep them disturbed. Nobody wanted to go to war over Tibet…It was a nuisance operation. Basically, nothing more,’ says former CIA agent Sam Halpern.
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By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/wild_mustangs/comment-page-1/#comment-39372 Guru Gulab Khatri Thu, 22 Dec 2005 03:44:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2773#comment-39372 <p>CIA supporting dissidents in tibet is old news. There is a doccumentary about it....Cant remember the name snow lion snow dragon....The policy was stopped b/c the tibetans themselves realized that american motives were NOT to help them get independance but use them to create nuisance for china.</p> <p>Indians should use common sense and start issuing these folks citizenship. I dont see the majority of folks in dharamshala being able to go back. Hell we gave the calcutta chinese indian citizenship</p> CIA supporting dissidents in tibet is old news. There is a doccumentary about it….Cant remember the name snow lion snow dragon….The policy was stopped b/c the tibetans themselves realized that american motives were NOT to help them get independance but use them to create nuisance for china.

Indians should use common sense and start issuing these folks citizenship. I dont see the majority of folks in dharamshala being able to go back. Hell we gave the calcutta chinese indian citizenship

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