Comments on: Bitter much? (updated) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MadMan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39513 MadMan Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:11:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39513 <p>You folks can watch the video <a href="http://www.ibnlive.com/videopopup.php?id=2592">over here</a>. Abhi, perhaps you could update your post with this link?</p> You folks can watch the video over here. Abhi, perhaps you could update your post with this link?

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By: Pattie Kaur http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39490 Pattie Kaur Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:53:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39490 <p><b>Actually not true Pattie. America is much more conservative about public displays of affection than Europe. My friends and I were surprised to see people getting it on everywhere when we traveled through Europe (especially Spain and Italy). </b></p> <p>hhmm..that's interesting, because i see just the opposite happen hee, and hear many complaints from friends and family about it around the country. i was horridly appalled , when i was in port authority - a young 'pair' practially pulling each other's pants off, and humping each other. they are like this down here too..i se this daily...all to often. and i'm sure it's not concentrated on certain states or regions. you're lead to believe that america is more conservative toards it, but it's a do as i say, not as do situation. and when it is done, quite often, it goes on seemingly unnoticed. i'm sure america would cringe in fear if the mr. and i went out and really showed them our affection. then again, he won't let me. in public. (and if others kept their show off actions to themselves, behind closed doors, we'd be better off.) ;( but anyhoo.....</p> Actually not true Pattie. America is much more conservative about public displays of affection than Europe. My friends and I were surprised to see people getting it on everywhere when we traveled through Europe (especially Spain and Italy).

hhmm..that’s interesting, because i see just the opposite happen hee, and hear many complaints from friends and family about it around the country. i was horridly appalled , when i was in port authority – a young ‘pair’ practially pulling each other’s pants off, and humping each other. they are like this down here too..i se this daily…all to often. and i’m sure it’s not concentrated on certain states or regions. you’re lead to believe that america is more conservative toards it, but it’s a do as i say, not as do situation. and when it is done, quite often, it goes on seemingly unnoticed. i’m sure america would cringe in fear if the mr. and i went out and really showed them our affection. then again, he won’t let me. in public. (and if others kept their show off actions to themselves, behind closed doors, we’d be better off.) ;( but anyhoo…..

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By: Janeofalltrades http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39473 Janeofalltrades Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:06:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39473 <blockquote>I dont know what the deal with lady cops in UP. Last year in Lucknow a female cop took an innocent girl to the mahila station and started abusing her sexually. Turned out she was lesbian ! Not to say the male cops are any better, they participate in most of the sexual offences they are supposed to protect people from. My suggestion if to distribute sex toys to the members of the police, to take care of this problem.</blockquote> <p>I don't think the solution is that simple. The one undercurrent in all these atrocities is that it appears to be about power. Sexual harrassment isn't always about lack of sexual outlet. Many of these harrassers are married people with children. Often if not most of the time it's about exerting power and lack of general respect for women.</p> <p>Any joe schmoe with the slightest bit of power of any sort is kicking down the guy down the heirarchy in desh. I've noticed drivers of luxury car driving Sahebs talk down to building watchmen while the watchmen talked down to the errand boys and servants in the neighborhood. Mostly because they seem to believe they exert some power over the other because they are higer in the foodchain.</p> I dont know what the deal with lady cops in UP. Last year in Lucknow a female cop took an innocent girl to the mahila station and started abusing her sexually. Turned out she was lesbian ! Not to say the male cops are any better, they participate in most of the sexual offences they are supposed to protect people from. My suggestion if to distribute sex toys to the members of the police, to take care of this problem.

I don’t think the solution is that simple. The one undercurrent in all these atrocities is that it appears to be about power. Sexual harrassment isn’t always about lack of sexual outlet. Many of these harrassers are married people with children. Often if not most of the time it’s about exerting power and lack of general respect for women.

Any joe schmoe with the slightest bit of power of any sort is kicking down the guy down the heirarchy in desh. I’ve noticed drivers of luxury car driving Sahebs talk down to building watchmen while the watchmen talked down to the errand boys and servants in the neighborhood. Mostly because they seem to believe they exert some power over the other because they are higer in the foodchain.

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By: Reincarnation http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39471 Reincarnation Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:55:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39471 <blockquote>India has the lengthiest legal code in the world.</blockquote> <p>No kidding. The Indian Consititution is the lengthiest one in the world, no less. Ambedkar and boys took their own sweeting conjuring it up. Combine that with a bunch of illiterate and corrupt policians for the better part of the 20th century and we have one of the lengthiest and most antiquated constitutions. Double whammy!</p> India has the lengthiest legal code in the world.

No kidding. The Indian Consititution is the lengthiest one in the world, no less. Ambedkar and boys took their own sweeting conjuring it up. Combine that with a bunch of illiterate and corrupt policians for the better part of the 20th century and we have one of the lengthiest and most antiquated constitutions. Double whammy!

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By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39464 Guru Gulab Khatri Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:41:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39464 <blockquote>I still find it weird that people in India above 18 years of age are considered adults (old enough to vote, enlist in armed service, yada, yada) but not treated like adults by the establishment. Been throught that, just never understood it. </blockquote> <p>Well an 18 yr old male cant get married legaly its 21 for men/ 18 for women. Also legal drinking age in delhi is 25. There are minimum age requirement for being an MP, PM etc. BTW it was in Rajiv Gandhis time the voting age was reduced to 18. Before that it was 21. Legal situation in india is pretty silly, and the laws are partly to blame for that. India has the lengthiest legal code in the world.</p> I still find it weird that people in India above 18 years of age are considered adults (old enough to vote, enlist in armed service, yada, yada) but not treated like adults by the establishment. Been throught that, just never understood it.

Well an 18 yr old male cant get married legaly its 21 for men/ 18 for women. Also legal drinking age in delhi is 25. There are minimum age requirement for being an MP, PM etc. BTW it was in Rajiv Gandhis time the voting age was reduced to 18. Before that it was 21. Legal situation in india is pretty silly, and the laws are partly to blame for that. India has the lengthiest legal code in the world.

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By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39461 Guru Gulab Khatri Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:30:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39461 <blockquote>I saw it on NDTV the day the story broke. As the police chief says, this sort of stuff may well be going on in Meerut every once in a while. What made this episode different was that they took some media people and video cameras with them. They actually wanted to show off!</blockquote> <p>Yep they did want to win brownie points. The fat one in particuar was aggressive and you can also make the case that she was posturing for the camera. Hope she gets fired and looses her pension.</p> I saw it on NDTV the day the story broke. As the police chief says, this sort of stuff may well be going on in Meerut every once in a while. What made this episode different was that they took some media people and video cameras with them. They actually wanted to show off!

Yep they did want to win brownie points. The fat one in particuar was aggressive and you can also make the case that she was posturing for the camera. Hope she gets fired and looses her pension.

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By: Reincarnation http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39448 Reincarnation Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:39:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39448 <blockquote>Did you not note the "by and large" at the end - ergo not a generalisation</blockquote> <p>Thanks for pointing that out. That <b>"by and large"</b> was just a weak <a href="http://www.cknow.com/ckinfo/questions/178/CYA---Cover-Your-(Rear)">CYA</a> attempt after the usage of strong wording like <b>"cops are basically horrible people everywhere"</b>. If someone is breaking into your home or chasing you in a dark alley, the first number you will be dialing is 911 (or 100 depending on where you are). Yes, the Indian Police system has problems and potentially irresolvable problems at that. But that does not give you a license to go around abusing cops everywhere.</p> Did you not note the “by and large” at the end – ergo not a generalisation

Thanks for pointing that out. That “by and large” was just a weak CYA attempt after the usage of strong wording like “cops are basically horrible people everywhere”. If someone is breaking into your home or chasing you in a dark alley, the first number you will be dialing is 911 (or 100 depending on where you are). Yes, the Indian Police system has problems and potentially irresolvable problems at that. But that does not give you a license to go around abusing cops everywhere.

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By: Wondering http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39445 Wondering Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:11:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39445 <blockquote>Congrats! You are the winner of the "Sweeping Generalization of the week" award.</blockquote> <p>Did you not note the "by and large" at the end - ergo not a generalisation</p> Congrats! You are the winner of the “Sweeping Generalization of the week” award.

Did you not note the “by and large” at the end – ergo not a generalisation

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By: belubhai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39442 belubhai Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:45:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39442 <p>I dont know what the deal with lady cops in UP. Last year in Lucknow a female cop took an innocent girl to the mahila station and started abusing her sexually. Turned out she was lesbian ! Not to say the male cops are any better, they participate in most of the sexual offences they are supposed to protect people from. My suggestion if to distribute sex toys to the members of the police, to take care of this problem.</p> <p>Police is a symbol of systematic repression in India, rather in all developing countries. Problem in UP is that all criminals are politicians and they have political immunity. So the police goes after innocents on flimsy grounds to get some job satisfaction, and show their bosses how hard working they are. How many calories the bad ass Lady cop would have burned doing the slapping scene for the Cameras. Shes gonna hear from Bollywood soon.</p> <p>An Indian judge rightfully remarked that the most organized Mafia Gang in the World is the Indian Police ! And dont get me started on the famous Indian police joke.</p> I dont know what the deal with lady cops in UP. Last year in Lucknow a female cop took an innocent girl to the mahila station and started abusing her sexually. Turned out she was lesbian ! Not to say the male cops are any better, they participate in most of the sexual offences they are supposed to protect people from. My suggestion if to distribute sex toys to the members of the police, to take care of this problem.

Police is a symbol of systematic repression in India, rather in all developing countries. Problem in UP is that all criminals are politicians and they have political immunity. So the police goes after innocents on flimsy grounds to get some job satisfaction, and show their bosses how hard working they are. How many calories the bad ass Lady cop would have burned doing the slapping scene for the Cameras. Shes gonna hear from Bollywood soon.

An Indian judge rightfully remarked that the most organized Mafia Gang in the World is the Indian Police ! And dont get me started on the famous Indian police joke.

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By: mellow http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/21/bitter_much/comment-page-1/#comment-39439 mellow Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:23:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2770#comment-39439 <p>Man, Indian female coppers are very macho indeed, and mean ugly bastids too ! This is however just an extension of the male police officers behaviour. Its not unknown for male police officers in India to sexually assault women who've come in just to make a complaint like having their handbag nicked ! Indian police are just a very nasty bunch who generally need to be handled with a taser.</p> Man, Indian female coppers are very macho indeed, and mean ugly bastids too ! This is however just an extension of the male police officers behaviour. Its not unknown for male police officers in India to sexually assault women who’ve come in just to make a complaint like having their handbag nicked ! Indian police are just a very nasty bunch who generally need to be handled with a taser.

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